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Post by purplehaze on Jan 11, 2022 20:11:53 GMT -5
Lost 4-1 today - seemed to play better as we outshot Maine 34-30 When should we expect to see better results ? One-sided losses for three years now in HE is getting old
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 11, 2022 22:28:22 GMT -5
Coach Lachapelle has a similar background as coaches Brett Nelson and Sean Kearney as she rose to associate head coach at a higher level program before coming to Holy Cross to take her first head coaching job, although Lachapelle was mentored by Coach Van Buskirk before taking over.
So, HC had no evidence she was or wasn't an effective head coach before hiring her. So it's hard to tell if the poor performance is due to recruiting, player development, in game coaching, being in a league with strong established programs or still ramping up to full scholarship equivalency with the rest of the league.
When HC moved up from a D-2/3 league to H.E. there wasn't any other regional D-1 league option. Now there is the New England Women's Hockey Alliance with some of our former foes in it, that is a lower level D-1 league like the AHA is on the men's side. Should HC consider right sizing to that league (I suspect the answer is a unanimous no) or do anything else differently?
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 12, 2022 5:40:00 GMT -5
I don’t feel like the ladies hockey team is in the same category as the men’s basketball team. It was a large jump to Hockey East for the ladies and this will take time to get sufficient high level recruits to effectively compete. The men’s basketball team remained at the same level so nothing changed other than the coach. The playing field was level for Nelson.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 12, 2022 8:58:02 GMT -5
I think Kit needs to spend some time answering one basic question. Why is is so hard to win at Holy Cross? Our record of futility over many years and many coaches is astounding. I’m sure it’s a combination of things but we need to start removing those obstacles (at least the ones which can be removed).
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jan 12, 2022 9:01:21 GMT -5
I think Kit needs to spend some time answering one basic question. Why is is so hard to win at Holy Cross? Our record of futility over many years and many coaches is astounding. I’m sure it’s a combination of things but we need to start removing those obstacles (at least the ones which can be removed). You've nailed it.
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Post by beachbound on Jan 12, 2022 10:20:08 GMT -5
Looking at the rosters for the last 2 games, they only dressed 10 forwards vs the usual 12 plus an extra skater. So maybe a couple of covid related absences. Also, similar to the men, our recruiting is not strong, but the talent pool is much shallower in women’s hockey, so while we are seeing similar w/l records between m/w hockey, there are more lopsided results with the women. I do not watch enough of the women’s team to form an opinion on the coach, but the results speak very loudly, especially IF the program can offer 18 scholarships.
Maybe we move down to that other women’s league when Sacred Heart moves up to Hockey East.
I agree with HC92 and that Kit has a huge task in front of him, but that is probably better addressed on a dedicated thread for the whole athletics program. The fact that our admissions application numbers have stagnated reflects some obstacles that go beyond just our athletic department.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jan 12, 2022 10:57:43 GMT -5
BTW, I was perusing the U of VT athletics website and saw that HC women's hockey standout Antonia Matzka is playing on the VT women's hockey team as a graduate student
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Post by timholycross on Jan 12, 2022 13:03:08 GMT -5
A program like this should eventually be successful. $300,000 worth of scholarship money per player should speak volumes in that sport, if that's what 18 scholarships mean.
Have patience.
And a pox on HCs house if they turn and run away from Hockey East after they just got there.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 12, 2022 13:34:21 GMT -5
A program like this should eventually be successful. $300,000 worth of scholarship money per player should speak volumes in that sport, if that's what 18 scholarships mean. Have patience. And a pox on HCs house if they turn and run away from Hockey East after they just got there. A double pox if they retreated and had similar success as the men in AHA. The only thing worse than last place in a league is last place in a lower league.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jan 12, 2022 17:25:55 GMT -5
Fortunately membership in Hockey East does not have the same on campus minimum seating capacity for women that the men have of 4,000.
Other that Sacred Heart, hard to foresee any new on campus facilities in New England being built to that size. The new UConn facility will only seat 2,600 and will cost $70 million. UConn has received a waiver from the 4,000 seat capacity size.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 12, 2022 18:42:34 GMT -5
Fortunately membership in Hockey East does not have the same on campus minimum seating capacity for women that the men have of 4,000. Other that Sacred Heart, hard to foresee any new on campus facilities in New England being built to that size. The new UConn facility will only seat 2,600 and will cost $70 million. UConn has received a waiver from the 4,000 seat capacity size. And the Uconn men's team is still going to play the majority of their games in Hartford. I would think Norwich would be an interesting add to Hockey East with their fan support up there if they wanted to make the move.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 12, 2022 23:37:31 GMT -5
HC would be in the Big East for basketball before Norwich would even get a sniff from Hockey East.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 13, 2022 0:07:56 GMT -5
HC would be in the Big East for basketball before Norwich would even get a sniff from Hockey East. Well they got a 3k seat arena and four national championships with a rabid fanbase. It would work up there.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jan 13, 2022 10:16:32 GMT -5
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 17, 2022 15:30:16 GMT -5
Losses keep piling up - lost to UVM today 3-1, outshot 38-21
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 17, 2022 16:32:28 GMT -5
Losses keep piling up - lost to UVM today 3-1, outshot 38-21 UVM is a middle of the road Hockey East team...They only have two 2022 Czechia Olympians on their roster who played today.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 18, 2022 13:38:45 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 18, 2022 14:22:05 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 18, 2022 15:16:09 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 18, 2022 15:26:36 GMT -5
At the end of their third year at the helm, who will have a higher winning percentage, Coach Lachapelle or Coach Nelson? Or lower losing percentage, whichever you prefer.
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Post by aaa8316 on Jan 18, 2022 16:06:31 GMT -5
At the end of their third year at the helm, who will have a higher winning percentage, Coach Lachapelle or Coach Nelson? Or lower losing percentage, whichever you prefer. While some of us may deem winning percentage important in a Head Coach's tenure at this level, I personally have reservations that Holy Cross brass (BOG's, President, and to a certain extent the AD) regards it similarly. On the contrary, there is this annual chest bumping publication from our Athletic Dept: goholycross.com/news/2021/12/2/athletics-holy-cross-ties-for-national-lead-in-graduation-success-rate.aspx
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 18, 2022 17:25:30 GMT -5
At the end of their third year at the helm, who will have a higher winning percentage, Coach Lachapelle or Coach Nelson? Or lower losing percentage, whichever you prefer. While some of us may deem winning percentage important in a Head Coach's tenure at this level, I personally have reservations that Holy Cross brass (BOG's, President, and to a certain extent the AD) regards it similarly. On the contrary, there is this annual chest bumping publication from our Athletic Dept: goholycross.com/news/2021/12/2/athletics-holy-cross-ties-for-national-lead-in-graduation-success-rate.aspxSmart kids can win games, too. So winning is not a threat to the graduatation rate. Also, I wonder how the Diaspora from MBB under Nelson will be measured in this scale over the next few years?
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 18, 2022 17:38:07 GMT -5
The final score was 9-0 UVM I hope Kit was watching - losing is one thing but being humiliated like this should not happen on our home ice
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 18, 2022 17:42:43 GMT -5
The final score was 9-0 UVM I hope Kit was watching - losing is one thing but being humiliated like this should not happen on our home ice Shots were only 32-25 in favor of UVM. The Catamounts didn't score a PP or SHG.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 18, 2022 20:08:24 GMT -5
Um....
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