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Post by longsuffering on Nov 15, 2021 10:34:42 GMT -5
My hunch: Villanova beats UD and gets a seed at 9-2 (only 2 losses Penn St and William & Mary). I think in that case our matchup feeds into Philadelphia. I see William and Mary AND VMI both winning this weekend (with Monmouth losing). And Im going to project William & Mary-VMI feeding into Harrisonburg. SHU or URI in Worcester is too good to be true, but either would settle the debate of whether Fitton qualifies for the playoffs.
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Post by thecrossisback on Nov 15, 2021 10:36:44 GMT -5
One reason is because Harvard, Yale, Brown and Dartmouth are the New England schools we have the century plus traditions with. Payback against Harvard will be sweet. Bison can confirm but I think Bucknell travels well for basketball. The section behind their bench is orange for games at the Hart when they are good. I agree but have you seen their football crowds this year. Honestly Worcester State has bigger crowds.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 15, 2021 10:40:59 GMT -5
Bison can confirm but I think Bucknell travels well for basketball. The section behind their bench is orange for games at the Hart when they are good. I agree but have you seen their football crowds this year. Like honestly Worcester State has bigger crowds. Agree, Bucknell should make their students and area fans an offer they can't refuse of some sort to get them there...short of three hour passes for inmates at the Lewisburg Federal Penitentiary.😊
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 15, 2021 11:46:44 GMT -5
HC ranked at #26, with 35 votes, in the coaches poll. URI is #27 with 33 votes. JMU #2, Villanova #9, Jackrabbits at #13,
Kennesaw ranked #5, Monmouth #24, UNI 5 votes, W&M 3 votes, Sacred Heart 1 vote.
Princeton and Dartmouth are #20 and #21. Harvard got one vote.
If Monmouth loses, HC might bump up into the top 25, but don't believe there is a new poll before the selection show.
UC Davis and SD State dropped out of the top eight.
Villanova might not get a bye, given that the CAA is apparently perceived as being weak this year. Only two CAA schools in the top 25, and only URI close to making the top 25. Who would play Villanova (without a bye) if URI loses to Elon and Monmouth loses to Kennesaw St.. Sacred Heart?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 15, 2021 12:31:04 GMT -5
PP - to respond to your question about Nova not getting a seed and URI AND Monmouth losing.
In that case, you'd be quite possibly looking at either SHU or Holy Cross going to Philly with the other traveling out of region (possibly W&M if VMI loses). Or SHU and Holy Cross still get matched up with an out of region team traveling to Villanova.
But I still think Nova deserves a seed with a win Sat. They'll be 9-1 against FCS, the one loss to a quality William & Mary team. And their resume includes a win at JMU.
And Monmouth has no business in the Top 25 if were also not in the Top 25 and ahead of them.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 15, 2021 12:54:18 GMT -5
Since the NCAA pays for transportation, and the pandemic has plateaued not ended, I hope they keep teams as close to home as possible.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 15, 2021 13:12:02 GMT -5
Since the NCAA pays for transportation, and the pandemic has plateaued not ended, I hope they keep teams as close to home as possible. They do this even when there isn't a pandemic so expect business as usual.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 15, 2021 13:13:55 GMT -5
Since the NCAA pays for transportation, and the pandemic has plateaued not ended, I hope they keep teams as close to home as possible. They do this even when there isn't a pandemic so expect business as usual. Our trip last year to SD must have been a reflection of the esteem the PL is held in.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 15, 2021 13:23:03 GMT -5
They do this even when there isn't a pandemic so expect business as usual. Our trip last year to SD must have been a reflection of the esteem the PL is held in. Last year was only a 16 team bracket, so the equivalent of what would be the 2nd round this year. Also the reason for the trip was because we were geographic "odd man out" in the area. Because SHU is a shorter bus trip to Delaware than Worcester, we were the team they decided to put on a plane.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 15, 2021 13:23:30 GMT -5
Smaller field, fewer games.
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 15, 2021 13:26:03 GMT -5
Collegesportsmadness.com site has Holy Cross ranked #8 in their FCS Power Rankings - three spots behind Villanova.
The Top25 Rankings on their site does not include HC, nor does it show any ARV teams.
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 15, 2021 13:37:44 GMT -5
'Nova is loaded with 5th yr srs throughout their roster incl their qb - they had 15 first downs and 280 yards total offense at Penn St - averaged 4.7 yards per play
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 15, 2021 13:39:26 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Nov 15, 2021 13:59:36 GMT -5
'Nova is loaded with 5th yr srs throughout their roster incl their qb - they had 15 first downs and 280 yards total offense at Penn St - averaged 4.7 yards per play We want them to get a seed and the first round bye. It’s that simple.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 15, 2021 18:00:43 GMT -5
Would Villanova be the champ of that league, assuming they win Saturday because they beat JMU, who's tied w/them?
I can't believe that the CAA champion wouldn't get a bye in these playoffs, along with the MVFC, Big Sky, Southland and Southern....those seem to always be the best 5 leagues.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 15, 2021 18:36:40 GMT -5
According to the latest Massey composite polls...11 of the Top 18 are either in the MVFC or Big Sky. Not sure if that's accurate or a result of Midwest/West bias.
The South in general has lost a fair amount of top FCS programs this century to the FBS.
I think the Southern Conference in general has dropped vis a vis the MVFC and Big Sky due to some of these defections.
The CAA seems to be "down" (for them) this year outside of Nova and JMU...not sure if that's a one season hiccup or a trend.
Funny level...which I think is perfect for HC....I would wager that not many college football fans in Massachusetts or New England (maybe UNH) have a bettah feel/understanding for it than HC fans.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 15, 2021 19:59:22 GMT -5
The writer covering FCS for Hero has one of the 50 votes on the Stat poll. He published his rankings today, HC not in his top 25. He also wrote that having beaten ranked teams counts for a lot when it comes to seeding and placement.
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Post by princetoncrusader on Nov 15, 2021 21:33:04 GMT -5
Bucknell fans have turned out in good numbers at Jadwin Gym in the past. We will see if that continues in early December.
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Post by princetoncrusader on Nov 15, 2021 21:35:16 GMT -5
Speaking of attendance, about 7,000 turned out for the Amherst-Williams game. Weather was likely better up north, but to outdraw the PL game of the decade is disappointing.
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Post by HC92 on Nov 15, 2021 21:47:33 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 15, 2021 21:50:32 GMT -5
Speaking of attendance, about 7,000 turned out for the Amherst-Williams game. Weather was likely better up north, but to outdraw the PL game of the decade is disappointing. Western Mass. is more populous than NYC?😊. It would help build tradition if HC had a consistent opponent for the last game of the season and Fordham is a logical choice. It would provide a second way to consider the season a success like H-Y, Lehigh-Lafayette and Amherst-Williams have and HC-BC used to provide.
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Post by thecrossisback on Nov 15, 2021 22:07:12 GMT -5
This Monmouth ranked ahead of us stuff. How?
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 15, 2021 23:10:10 GMT -5
Our trip last year to SD must have been a reflection of the esteem the PL is held in. Last year was only a 16 team bracket, so the equivalent of what would be the 2nd round this year. Also the reason for the trip was because we were geographic "odd man out" in the area. Because SHU is a shorter bus trip to Delaware than Worcester, we were the team they decided to put on a plane. The NCAA considers a flight over 500 miles IIRC....so both SHU and HC were inside of flight range for Delaware so really doesn't matter which one would have to fly....
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 15, 2021 23:12:06 GMT -5
Speaking of attendance, about 7,000 turned out for the Amherst-Williams game. Weather was likely better up north, but to outdraw the PL game of the decade is disappointing. It was actually smaller than the last time I shot that game in 2018...IMO based on what I saw. There was no way there was 5k there in my world. The SID over estimated in the box score! www.foley-photography.com/Football/College-Football/2021-Season/Williams-at-Amherst/
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 15, 2021 23:25:37 GMT -5
Last year was only a 16 team bracket, so the equivalent of what would be the 2nd round this year. Also the reason for the trip was because we were geographic "odd man out" in the area. Because SHU is a shorter bus trip to Delaware than Worcester, we were the team they decided to put on a plane. The NCAA considers a flight over 500 miles IIRC....so both SHU and HC were inside of flight range for Delaware so really doesn't matter which one would have to fly.... Correct. But given that one of the two inevitably had to fly, it made sense to fly the team that would've had the longer bus ride to Delaware.
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