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Post by purplehaze on Nov 19, 2021 22:08:39 GMT -5
Lost the opener of the series 3-2
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 20, 2021 19:02:37 GMT -5
Down 4-2 midway thru 3rd period
Frosh goalie Gale ( who has looked good) started and gave up 3 goals in their first 4 shots - replaced by Gordon
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 20, 2021 19:43:14 GMT -5
Leibold scored in the third but we fell short again 4-3 - too bad Gale had such a shaky start
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 22, 2021 14:08:46 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 22, 2021 15:15:20 GMT -5
There must be an easier league somewhere than the murderer's row of Atlantic Hockey opponents.
Kidding aside, the league puts HC on a coiled spring if Coach Riga and staff can turn things around. I like his local recruiting. I see little "hook" to attract players with plus ability from far away to HC. Holy Cross doesn't offer huge value added for local hockey players but more than for those from far away, all things being equal.
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Post by aaa8316 on Nov 25, 2021 10:54:46 GMT -5
There must be an easier league somewhere than the murderer's row of Atlantic Hockey opponents. Kidding aside, the league puts HC on a coiled spring if Coach Riga and staff can turn things around. I like his local recruiting. I see little "hook" to attract players with plus ability from far away to HC. Holy Cross doesn't offer huge value added for local hockey players but more than for those from far away, all things being equal. There is a league -- it's called the NESCAC (Div 3). And it aligns much, much better with the type of schools Holy Cross is, the resources invested in Athletics, and the actual (not fraudulent) desire and expectation to win at the institution. The athletic department at HC is so woefully off the mark currently it's beyond comprehension. And the roots of this are deeeeeeply imbedded in the direction and mandate of the institution itself. Let the debate begin by the Crossports hardo's that think HC Athletics is on the precipice of national championships -- and the next AD is gonna be Moses and lead us to the promise land. |
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 25, 2021 11:11:58 GMT -5
First, welcome to Crossports, aaa8316. Second, you don't seem to know as much as you imply about HC or its alumni/ae. Before making such foolish comparisons, you might want to understand that (a) NESCAC does not want HC as a member and (b) HC no longer has any desire to go that way. I am afraid you are one who may be "so woefully off the mark it is beyond comprehension."  |
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Post by aaa8316 on Nov 25, 2021 15:34:10 GMT -5
First, welcome to Crossports, aaa8316. Second, you don't seem to know as much as you imply about HC or its alumni/ae. Before making such foolish comparisons, you might want to understand that (a) NESCAC does not want HC as a member and (b) HC no longer has any desire to go that way. I am afraid you are one who may be "so woefully off the mark it is beyond comprehension." Hah, you couldn't be more wrong about my knowledge of HC. But judge away partner. I'm quite aware of how the system works, sport and otherwise. My NESCAC reference is a personal opinion -- which I would argue has more statistical justification in so many ways than anything I've ever read on here by the rest of the Forum heros. I'll continue to observe the embarrassing rate of Crusader mediocrity from my armchair. |
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 25, 2021 16:08:20 GMT -5
Most of our Olympic/ minor sports would not be good enough to compete for championships in the NESCAC - and we wouldn’t be close
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 25, 2021 18:03:10 GMT -5
First, welcome to Crossports, aaa8316. Second, you don't seem to know as much as you imply about HC or its alumni/ae. Before making such foolish comparisons, you might want to understand that (a) NESCAC does not want HC as a member and (b) HC no longer has any desire to go that way. I am afraid you are one who may be "so woefully off the mark it is beyond comprehension." Hah, you couldn't be more wrong about my knowledge of HC. But judge away partner. I'm quite aware of how the system works, sport and otherwise. My NESCAC reference is a personal opinion -- which I would argue has more statistical justification in so many ways than anything I've ever read on here by the rest of the Forum heros. I'll continue to observe the embarrassing rate of Crusader mediocrity from my armchair. From one armchair to another, welcome aboard. Your suggestion is not beyond comprehension because if a benefactor left the Jesuits money today to create a new 3000 student undergraduate only liberal arts college, it would most likely be D-3 in Athletics. Hockey is a good sport to make your case because HC enjoyed consistent winning in D-3 women's hockey and has so far floundered in D-1 along with the men at present. But as far as I can see the large majority of stakeholders in Holy Cross want to continue in D-1 and use football as a model to develop winning teams. We're playing in an NCAA tournament at home in 42 hours, so that's tangible proof that with the right leadership and resources, HC can compete in D-1. |
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 25, 2021 19:03:24 GMT -5
I have a slightly different take. I believe one of the reasons that the students were more supportive of the football and basketball teams "back in the day" was because there were fewer varsity sports and the attention was more focused. If you didn't play those varsity sports, there were intramurals led by Fr. Hart and his assistants. Of course another, perhaps more obvious reason, was it was an all-male school. I fully understand that today the students have a different outlook. So many of the current students played a wide-range of sports in high school and want to continue doing so in college whether that be field hockey, volleyball, golf, tennis, LAX, etc. Title IX also complicates the situation.
We probably couldn't change if we wanted to and I don't think the Board or Administration want to anyway.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 25, 2021 19:21:20 GMT -5
"No retreat, baby, no surrender" - Bruce Springsteen
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Nov 25, 2021 20:54:05 GMT -5
HC is all about reeling in full-pay students whose parents get to brag their kid is a D1 athlete regardless of how bad their respective teams may be. That's why HC fields way more sports than a school w/3,000 students should; and this trumps being good in all sports.
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 26, 2021 0:22:20 GMT -5
HC is all about reeling in full-pay students whose parents get to brag their kid is a D1 athlete regardless of how bad their respective teams may be. That's why HC fields way more sports than a school w/3,000 students should; and this trumps being good in all sports. Also the reason why head coaches quit to become Assistants at D-1 schools. |
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