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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 7, 2021 12:25:25 GMT -5
Monken to Duke might make sense.
Would be similar to Paul Johnson moving from Navy to Georgia Tech. He didn't have the same level of success as he had at Georgia Southern or at the academy but was competitive in the ACC.
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Post by Ignutz on Dec 7, 2021 12:28:59 GMT -5
In a "heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend" fashion, Chesney may have been in Delaware this weekend looking at homes. Don't shoot the piano playahhh, just posting what I was texted. Odds are very high it’s Chesney or Ryan Carty. I’ll be very surprised if it’s someone else. I bet we know by tomorrow or Wednesday at the latest. My hope and prayer is that if BC was in Delaware, he was doing diligence work in order to return to Worcester with first-hand details re: what he and his staff should be paid going forward. The presence of VR at Villanova combined with the credentials of ADKH have me hopeful that we'll do what's necessary for the continued upward movement of the program.
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Post by Ignutz on Dec 7, 2021 12:32:08 GMT -5
Well, since he successfully rebuilt a PL program to the point we almost beat the CAA champ in round 2, I could see why Delaware would at least eyeball him. Delaware knows the Nova team and its quality very well and our performance was quite impressive. Given the school, position, level, and salary I could see why BC would eyeball them. (His next stop is sure to be a head coach somewhere.) I don’t think BC’s stock will be any higher next year - and assume BC knows that. I disagree. Another PL title, combined with another FBS win and a second round win next year could increase his value exponentially. Further progress thereafter should do the same.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 7, 2021 12:32:12 GMT -5
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 7, 2021 15:03:08 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 7, 2021 15:38:59 GMT -5
This points out how as a graduate of tiny Dickinson College, Chesney will not be the favorite son candidate at any D-1 school like this alum returning to Orono was, but he's surely a better current head coach than a Co-DC at Yale where he easily solved their defense this year. Makes you wonder what these search firms, search committees and ADs are thinking. The whole seems to be less than the parts when they all put their heads together. A Co-DC at non-scholarship Yale seems to be less than a CAA team could attract as head coach.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 7, 2021 15:44:01 GMT -5
This points out how as a graduate of tiny Dickinson College, Chesney will not be the favorite son candidate at any D-1 school like this alum returning to Orono was, but he's surely a better current head coach than a Co-DC at Yale where he easily solved their defense this year. Makes you wonder what these search firms, search committees and ADs are thinking. The whole seems to be less than the parts when they all put their heads together. A Co-DC at non-scholarship Yale seems to be less than a CAA team could attract as head coach. It is Maine...noone wants to coach there ;-)
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Post by timholycross on Dec 7, 2021 16:25:19 GMT -5
...as Al McGuire once said about Pullman, Washington (home of Washington State), "it's where elephants go to die".
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Post by football44 on Dec 7, 2021 16:39:55 GMT -5
I got a feeling the new AD and Coach Chesney will huddling pretty soon. Kit Hughes is a football guy and he knows what he has in BC. Just a guess on my part.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 7, 2021 16:46:42 GMT -5
This points out how as a graduate of tiny Dickinson College, Chesney will not be the favorite son candidate at any D-1 school like this alum returning to Orono was, but he's surely a better current head coach than a Co-DC at Yale where he easily solved their defense this year. Makes you wonder what these search firms, search committees and ADs are thinking. The whole seems to be less than the parts when they all put their heads together. A Co-DC at non-scholarship Yale seems to be less than a CAA team could attract as head coach. I think they are all looking for a safe sounding choice and/or winning the press conference. The classic example, of course, was Sean Kearney: "Hey he's been an assistant for a half-dozen years at big-time, highly successful, storied Notre Dame" . Who could argue with that--before seeing that the guy could not coach. Other classic examples are hiring a guy who has had mediocre tenures as a head coach at multiple schools "Hey-he's got Division-1 experience as a head coach", Who can argue with one of those selections? It takes courage to opt for the guy who comes out of D-2 or D-3 because you'll be questioned mercilessly. The herd mentality is oppressive.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 7, 2021 16:57:33 GMT -5
This points out how as a graduate of tiny Dickinson College, Chesney will not be the favorite son candidate at any D-1 school like this alum returning to Orono was, but he's surely a better current head coach than a Co-DC at Yale where he easily solved their defense this year. Makes you wonder what these search firms, search committees and ADs are thinking. The whole seems to be less than the parts when they all put their heads together. A Co-DC at non-scholarship Yale seems to be less than a CAA team could attract as head coach. I think they are all looking for a safe sounding choice and/or winning the press conference. The classic example, of course, was Sean Kearney: "Hey he's been an assistant for a half-dozen years at big-time, highly successful, storied Notre Dame" . Who could argue with that--before seeing that the guy could not coach. Other classic examples are hiring a guy who has had mediocre tenures as a head coach at multiple schools "Hey-he's got Division-1 experience as a head coach", Who can argue with one of those selections? It takes courage to opt for the guy who comes out of D-2 or D-3 because you'll be questioned mercilessly. The herd mentality is oppressive. Nailed it.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 8, 2021 9:56:29 GMT -5
Probably more like ‘player carousel’ but the LSU starting (and pretty good) QB has just entered the portal: “LSU starting quarterback Max Johnson announced Tuesday evening on Twitter that he will be entering the transfer portal. Johnson, a sophomore, threw 27 touchdown passes and six interceptions in 12 games this season. With this announcement, the Tigers now have only one scholarship quarterback on the roster — true freshman Garrett Nussmeier. Nussmeier was expected to sit out the rest of the season to maintain his redshirt eligibility prior to Johnson's announcement. “ www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/6426480001(Note:They have a Bowl Game under Coach Brian Kelly so that would mean he’s not playing in it - I assume.)
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 10, 2021 22:20:23 GMT -5
Walt Bell, 2-23 as head coach at UMass is new OC at Indiana
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 11, 2021 0:34:31 GMT -5
This points out how as a graduate of tiny Dickinson College, Chesney will not be the favorite son candidate at any D-1 school like this alum returning to Orono was, but he's surely a better current head coach than a Co-DC at Yale where he easily solved their defense this year. Makes you wonder what these search firms, search committees and ADs are thinking. The whole seems to be less than the parts when they all put their heads together. A Co-DC at non-scholarship Yale seems to be less than a CAA team could attract as head coach. I think they are all looking for a safe sounding choice and/or winning the press conference. The classic example, of course, was Sean Kearney: "Hey he's been an assistant for a half-dozen years at big-time, highly successful, storied Notre Dame" . Who could argue with that--before seeing that the guy could not coach. Other classic examples are hiring a guy who has had mediocre tenures as a head coach at multiple schools "Hey-he's got Division-1 experience as a head coach", Who can argue with one of those selections? It takes courage to opt for the guy who comes out of D-2 or D-3 because you'll be questioned mercilessly. The herd mentality is oppressive. Margarity is a classic example of a mediocre head coach with D-1 experience.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 11, 2021 1:15:31 GMT -5
Probably more like ‘player carousel’ but the LSU starting (and pretty good) QB has just entered the portal: “LSU starting quarterback Max Johnson announced Tuesday evening on Twitter that he will be entering the transfer portal. Johnson, a sophomore, threw 27 touchdown passes and six interceptions in 12 games this season. With this announcement, the Tigers now have only one scholarship quarterback on the roster — true freshman Garrett Nussmeier. Nussmeier was expected to sit out the rest of the season to maintain his redshirt eligibility prior to Johnson's announcement. “ www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/6426480001(Note:They have a Bowl Game under Coach Brian Kelly so that would mean he’s not playing in it - I assume.) If Nussmeier played already during the Arkansas game, how does he retain redshirt status? I can't keep track of all the new eligibility and transfer rules. I thought the second you got in a game the redshirt came off, with exception of medical redshirts. For a medical redshirt, the rule was always that injury had to occur during the first 30% of the season's games or something for eligibility to be preserved. Casey Gough actually had to find a wrinkle in the NCAA medical redshirt rule to get his fifth year. He got hurt early in his freshman season but randomly appeared in a late-season game as an emergency punter in 2004. In order to preserve eligibility he had to go to court against the NCAA and prove that Dan Allen's staff was reckless and negligent in sending Casey into that game, given the progress of his injury on that exact date.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 11, 2021 5:19:29 GMT -5
Probably more like ‘player carousel’ but the LSU starting (and pretty good) QB has just entered the portal: “LSU starting quarterback Max Johnson announced Tuesday evening on Twitter that he will be entering the transfer portal. Johnson, a sophomore, threw 27 touchdown passes and six interceptions in 12 games this season. With this announcement, the Tigers now have only one scholarship quarterback on the roster — true freshman Garrett Nussmeier. Nussmeier was expected to sit out the rest of the season to maintain his redshirt eligibility prior to Johnson's announcement. “ www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/6426480001(Note:They have a Bowl Game under Coach Brian Kelly so that would mean he’s not playing in it - I assume.) If Nussmeier played already during the Arkansas game, how does he retain redshirt status? I can't keep track of all the new eligibility and transfer rules. I thought the second you got in a game the redshirt came off, with exception of medical redshirts. For a medical redshirt, the rule was always that injury had to occur during the first 30% of the season's games or something for eligibility to be preserved. Casey Gough actually had to find a wrinkle in the NCAA medical redshirt rule to get his fifth year. He got hurt early in his freshman season but randomly appeared in a late-season game as an emergency punter in 2004. In order to preserve eligibility he had to go to court against the NCAA and prove that Dan Allen's staff was reckless and negligent in sending Casey into that game, given the progress of his injury on that exact date. You can play in up to four (4) games and still retain the non-medical redshirt. That is a major change that began about four years ago and it has had a significant impact. The LSU kid in question has played in four this year and his plan was to redshirt…hence the drama. (We [PL] don’t have the non-medical redshirt rule BUT PL coaches know if a kid transfers out he might retroactively claim one. So you, as a coach might have the 3rd string QB play 4 or less games to preserve that possibility for the kid. Our 3rd string QB played in precisely 4 games this year.)
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Post by trimster on Dec 11, 2021 5:50:38 GMT -5
How crazy is that four game rule. If you are redshirting, you shouldn’t be playing in any games. I think redshirting should be eliminated unless you are injured and miss at least most if not all of the season.
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Post by football44 on Dec 11, 2021 7:57:25 GMT -5
😂😂😂 don’t be haters fellas. Get it while you can mentality now. Everyone on this platform watch over the next few years as the NCAA implodes. The rich get richer. Power 5 will be a group of schools all by themselves. We at HC have to pick a lane athletically. In my humble opinion we need to sell our football program as a Top 25 FCS program where you can compete for championships and playoffs every year and still get a high quality education.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 11, 2021 9:03:31 GMT -5
How crazy is that four game rule. If you are redshirting, you shouldn’t be playing in any games. I think redshirting should be eliminated unless you are injured and miss at least most if not all of the season. Or you shouldn't be able to appear in any games after the first 30 or 40% of the seasons games. So for football this would be roughly Columbus Day. So lets say a true frosh starts a couple games early due to injuries to upperclassman starter or winds up losing his PT after a couple games due to rookie learning curve, I'm ok with that guy getting a 5th year. But not a guy that played in November.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 11, 2021 9:06:44 GMT -5
😂😂😂 don’t be haters fellas. Get it while you can mentality now. Everyone on this platform watch over the next few years as the NCAA implodes. The rich get richer. Power 5 will be a group of schools all by themselves. We at HC have to pick a lane athletically. In my humble opinion we need to sell our football program as a Top 25 FCS program where you can compete for championships and playoffs every year and still get a high quality education. That lane will be picked for us. And I'm OK with it. The schools that will wind up crying will be the JMU's, Old Dominion's and Georgia State's of the world who spent all this money to become "second division" football schools.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 11, 2021 9:18:05 GMT -5
How crazy is that four game rule. If you are redshirting, you shouldn’t be playing in any games. I think redshirting should be eliminated unless you are injured and miss at least most if not all of the season. Or you shouldn't be able to appear in any games after the first 30 or 40% of the seasons games. So for football this would be roughly Columbus Day. So lets say a true frosh starts a couple games early due to injuries to upperclassman starter or winds up losing his PT after a couple games due to rookie learning curve, I'm ok with that guy getting a 5th year. But not a guy that played in November. The way I’ve seen it play out in the CAA is that an average recruit who would ordinarily just redshirt as a frosh is put in for a few portions of a few games. Keeps the frosh mentally in the game, reminds him what he needs to be working on, and might possibly lead to even more playing time if he shines. And, if injuries screw up the depth chart the coach can now throw in a frosh who has an inkling of game speed etc and is less tempted to leave in an ailing player (this was actually a strong emphasis in the debate). I’ve had to explain the newer four-game rule to fans at CAA games who wonder why the backup QB, for example, doesn’t come in during a blowout and instead the 3rd string does. The coach may limit 2nd and 3rd string QB to 4 games and help them both out.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 11, 2021 12:11:25 GMT -5
Or you shouldn't be able to appear in any games after the first 30 or 40% of the seasons games. So for football this would be roughly Columbus Day. So lets say a true frosh starts a couple games early due to injuries to upperclassman starter or winds up losing his PT after a couple games due to rookie learning curve, I'm ok with that guy getting a 5th year. But not a guy that played in November. The way I’ve seen it play out in the CAA is that an average recruit who would ordinarily just redshirt as a frosh is put in for a few portions of a few games. Keeps the frosh mentally in the game, reminds him what he needs to be working on, and might possibly lead to even more playing time if he shines. And, if injuries screw up the depth chart the coach can now throw in a frosh who has an inkling of game speed etc and is less tempted to leave in an ailing player (this was actually a strong emphasis in the debate). I’ve had to explain the newer four-game rule to fans at CAA games who wonder why the backup QB, for example, doesn’t come in during a blowout and instead the 3rd string does. The coach may limit 2nd and 3rd string QB to 4 games and help them both out. Thanks. This helps explain Wiegel's appearances.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 16, 2021 15:02:17 GMT -5
Looks like the Coaching Carousel has finally stopped spinning as Texas RB Coach Stan Drayton has been named the Head Coach at Temple. Drayton was also rumored to be a finalist for the Duke job.
Are there any open FBS jobs or intriguing FCS jobs left?
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Post by timholycross on Dec 16, 2021 21:42:04 GMT -5
Ironic how if the Jags pulled the plug on Urban Meyer earlier (there was certainly cause to do so), he'd have been in the mix for several of the jobs. But now, he's pretty toxic.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 17, 2021 16:34:38 GMT -5
Meyer will land somewhere in 2 years. I think he'll end up at a low-end P5 program.
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