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Post by rgs318 on Dec 25, 2021 11:09:33 GMT -5
Massey makes HC a 5 point favorite at Navy (61-56) and gives HC a 61% chance for the win.
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Post by lou on Dec 25, 2021 11:24:19 GMT -5
Are you sure??
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 25, 2021 11:29:10 GMT -5
Yes. That is what is on his website (when you check the matchup at Navy). Navy is ranked by him at #303 (record of 3-7) and HC ranked at #218 (record of 6-5). Thanks hoops for pointing out my error.
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Post by HC13 on Dec 25, 2021 11:57:13 GMT -5
Should be an interesting game. Key will being keeping Coleman in check, looking forward to see who gets the defensive matchup for the Crusaders.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 25, 2021 12:09:29 GMT -5
How does HC arrange travel for a midweek school vacation 5:30 pm game in Annapolis?
All three Capital Area HC WBB league games are on Wednesdays, but three different Wednesdays. No gesture at efficiency for student athlete time away from campus, environmental impact of travel or expenses by combining a couple of road games in one trip.
The Ivy League traditionally got two road league games in on one weekend and kept the students in class during the school week, but I think that has been relaxed in recent years. I'm guessing spacing of games to allow for multiple rest days between games played is the overiding concern for HC/PL scheduling decisions?
Merry Christmas btw.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 25, 2021 12:36:01 GMT -5
How does HC arrange travel for a midweek school vacation 5:30 pm game in Annapolis? All three Capital Area HC WBB league games are on Wednesdays, but three different Wednesdays. No gesture at efficiency for student athlete time away from campus, environmental impact of travel or expenses by combining a couple of road games in one trip. The Ivy League traditionally got two road league games in on one weekend and kept the students in class during the school week, but I think that has been relaxed in recent years. I'm guessing spacing of games to allow for multiple rest days between games played is the overiding concern for HC/PL scheduling decisions? Merry Christmas btw. At a minimum, the league should be able to make the longest trips on a weekend. The Tuesday flight from PVD to BWI followed by a Wednesday game and a late Wed night or early Thursday flight back is rough. At least the 5:30 start gives us a chance to get out that night instead of having to stay over again.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 25, 2021 12:36:04 GMT -5
...and a Merry Christmas to you "longsuffering" and a Most Happy New Year.
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Post by lou on Dec 25, 2021 12:57:05 GMT -5
Yes. That is what is on his website (when you check the matchup at Navy). HC is ranked by him at #303 (record of 3-7) and HC ranked at #218 (record of 6-5). Sorry, thought I was looking at the men
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 25, 2021 13:14:10 GMT -5
I have done the same in the past. No problem.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 26, 2021 0:55:31 GMT -5
How does HC arrange travel for a midweek school vacation 5:30 pm game in Annapolis? All three Capital Area HC WBB league games are on Wednesdays, but three different Wednesdays. No gesture at efficiency for student athlete time away from campus, environmental impact of travel or expenses by combining a couple of road games in one trip. The Ivy League traditionally got two road league games in on one weekend and kept the students in class during the school week, but I think that has been relaxed in recent years. I'm guessing spacing of games to allow for multiple rest days between games played is the overiding concern for HC/PL scheduling decisions? Merry Christmas btw. Only one of them is when school is in session when they go to Loyola on Feb 9th. I would expect HC to fly in on Tuesday morning, practice at Navy Tuesday afternoon, shoot around at noon on Wednesday and game at night. Fly back on Thursday morning and practice Thursday afternoon at home.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 26, 2021 14:47:13 GMT -5
How does HC arrange travel for a midweek school vacation 5:30 pm game in Annapolis? All three Capital Area HC WBB league games are on Wednesdays, but three different Wednesdays. No gesture at efficiency for student athlete time away from campus, environmental impact of travel or expenses by combining a couple of road games in one trip. The Ivy League traditionally got two road league games in on one weekend and kept the students in class during the school week, but I think that has been relaxed in recent years. I'm guessing spacing of games to allow for multiple rest days between games played is the overiding concern for HC/PL scheduling decisions? Merry Christmas btw. Only one of them is when school is in session when they go to Loyola on Feb 9th. I would expect HC to fly in on Tuesday morning, practice at Navy Tuesday afternoon, shoot around at noon on Wednesday and game at night. Fly back on Thursday morning and practice Thursday afternoon at home. Thanks. That's a comfortable trip for a week when school is not in session. Nice to have an industry insider on the board.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 26, 2021 15:12:06 GMT -5
Hey, L/S, how about you and I starting a Foley fan club on Crossports?
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 26, 2021 17:45:43 GMT -5
Hey, L/S, how about you and I starting a Foley fan club on Crossports? Then he would have to buy larger hats.🙂
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 26, 2021 18:50:13 GMT -5
Only one of them is when school is in session when they go to Loyola on Feb 9th. I would expect HC to fly in on Tuesday morning, practice at Navy Tuesday afternoon, shoot around at noon on Wednesday and game at night. Fly back on Thursday morning and practice Thursday afternoon at home. Thanks. That's a comfortable trip for a week when school is not in session. Nice to have an industry insider on the board. When I traveled consistently with hoops, that is what we would do when school wasn't in session. HC doesn't have dorms open so they have to pay for hotels no matter what right?
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 26, 2021 19:36:46 GMT -5
Thanks. That's a comfortable trip for a week when school is not in session. Nice to have an industry insider on the board. When I traveled consistently with hoops, that is what we would do when school wasn't in session. HC doesn't have dorms open so they have to pay for hotels no matter what right? It might have made sense for HC to have one dorm open this year because how could many of the foreign students travel home and back during Omicron? Certainly flights to China must be as hard to schedule as a Coach Nelson press conference.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 26, 2021 20:35:57 GMT -5
Pretty sure that they kept a dorm open in the past for students who could not go home and/or athletes.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 26, 2021 21:35:07 GMT -5
Don’t spring sports athletes arrive on campus in early January ? Lax season starts mid February
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Post by hchoops on Dec 26, 2021 21:59:08 GMT -5
Yes. That is what is on his website (when you check the matchup at Navy). HC is ranked by him at #303 (record of 3-7) and HC ranked at #218 (record of 6-5). A contradictory last sentence.
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Post by lowerkimball on Dec 27, 2021 13:04:01 GMT -5
Looking forward to seeing the team get into league play. Historically, playing at Navy has been a challenge but the team has had some close games down there in recent seasons including a W by FIHCAM (really wanted to type out that acronym ). Very interested to see how HC plans to matchup with Coleman defensively who IMO is the premier guard / player in the league. A road W to start conference play would go a long way to a hosting a playoff game which I believe is a reasonable goal for the "good" version of the team that we have seen flashes of throughout non-conference play.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 27, 2021 20:48:41 GMT -5
Very interested to see how HC plans to matchup with Coleman defensively who IMO is the premier guard / player in the league. If Navy continues its current level of play and finishes well down in the second division, the vote for POY will be interesting. Coleman clearly has the league's dominant stats by a wide margin. But over the past 15 full seasons, no player from a team worse than 2nd place has ever been PL POY. And only once in the league's 30 years has a player on a team worse than 4th ever been POY.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 27, 2021 21:15:12 GMT -5
Very interested to see how HC plans to matchup with Coleman defensively who IMO is the premier guard / player in the league. If Navy continues its current level of play and finishes well down in the second division, the vote for POY will be interesting. Coleman clearly has the league's dominant stats by a wide margin. But over the past 15 full seasons, no player from a team worse than 2nd place has ever been PL POY. And only once in the league's 30 years has a player on a team worse than 4th ever been POY. I'm rooting for Avery in the POY horse race. It all starts with beating Navy on Wednesday.
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 28, 2021 0:59:23 GMT -5
Seems like a race between Taylor O'Brien at Bucknell and American's Jade Edwards. Lehigh's Hottinger and Kramer too, if they are consistent. Can't see Coleman winning POTY. Navy is not good. Let the games begin!
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Post by lowerkimball on Dec 28, 2021 11:30:17 GMT -5
Seems like a race between Taylor O'Brien at Bucknell and American's Jade Edwards. Lehigh's Hottinger and Kramer too, if they are consistent. Can't see Coleman winning POTY. Navy is not good. Let the games begin! I wonder if the league has ever discussed adding something along the lines of a Most Outstanding Player to go with POY since POY, like Bison pointed out, usually goes to the best player on the 1st or 2nd place team. Basically creating an award for the best player in the league as opposed to the current award of the best player on the best team. I'm also curious to see how many of these kids use their 5th years at other schools - some potentially at a higher level - and what impact, if any, they have outside the league.
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Post by HC13 on Dec 28, 2021 14:17:34 GMT -5
I don't know if that would actually cure the problem, might work this year if Coleman continues to excel & the team does not, but likely just opens the door to future debates. Bison is correct, but don't know if in the timeframe he references there was a player who so dominated the stats & team was not at least a top 3 at the end of the regular season (although there might be one or two)
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 28, 2021 16:34:18 GMT -5
Might run into an issue similar to the debate of if the same player should win the Cy Young award and the MVP in the same year.
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