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Post by lou on Dec 30, 2021 10:38:42 GMT -5
In the post game interview the Navy coach mentioned Cross' two 3s in the first half as examples of lapses in their defense. Said those six points were huge in maintaining our lead
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 30, 2021 11:52:13 GMT -5
He was correct..they were big points without a doubt.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 30, 2021 13:11:10 GMT -5
In conference play any win on the road is a good one so certainly will take it. Would love to know how Coleman ended up at Navy, maybe a military background in the family? She's quite a talent. Outside of her I still can't believe how far off Navy has fallen.. I don't think she was nearly as good in HS as she is now. She improved a lot in her redshirt year at the Naval Academy Prep School before entering the Academy. Coleman came close to flunking out her sophomore year, becoming academically ineligible for much of the season. If she hadn't pulled up her grades, imagine how bad Navy would be now. She is leading the PL in scoring, rebounds, assists, and steals - all by a good margin. Last year she was top three in the four categories - but only made 2nd team All-PL.
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Post by lou on Dec 30, 2021 13:25:59 GMT -5
In conference play any win on the road is a good one so certainly will take it. Would love to know how Coleman ended up at Navy, maybe a military background in the family? She's quite a talent. Outside of her I still can't believe how far off Navy has fallen.. I don't think she was nearly as good in HS as she is now. She improved a lot in her redshirt year at the Naval Academy Prep School before entering the Academy. Coleman came close to flunking out her sophomore year, becoming academically ineligible for much of the season. If she hadn't pulled up her grades, imagine how bad Navy would be now. She is leading the PL in scoring, rebounds, assists, and steals - all by a good margin. Last year she was top three in the four categories - but only made 2nd team All-PL. Apparently she's doing ok academically and whatever else she is involved in because she's been assigned to "surface warfare" after graduation.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 30, 2021 13:53:01 GMT -5
Avery is doing everything great this year except shooting the ball. Her field goal % (especially 3s) is woeful, the worst of her career. She had a great all around game yesterday except for 2-12 from the field. In twelve games she has only had 25 trips to the line, where she is automatic. I noticed yesterday she was looking to dish and did so successfully. I don't know think it's productive to try to coach to lure increased free throws. Just keep practicing shooting and keep shooting in the game. The looks were good last night. I can handle an Avery or BPC miss on a good look better than a less skilled player getting blocked by the bottom of the backboard or rim. I'd rather have them toss it back out if they can rather than take the forced awkward shot from a bad angle. Cross finding her range helped yesterday.
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Post by HC13 on Dec 30, 2021 14:04:10 GMT -5
Avery is doing everything great this year except shooting the ball. Her field goal % (especially 3s) is woeful, the worst of her career. She had a great all around game yesterday except for 2-12 from the field. In twelve games she has only had 25 trips to the line, where she is automatic. I noticed yesterday she was looking to dish and did so successfully. I don't know think it's productive to try to coach to lure increased free throws. Just keep practicing shooting and keep shooting in the game. The looks were good last night. I can handle an Avery or BPC miss on a good look better than a less skilled player getting blocked by the bottom of the backboard or rim. I'd rather have them toss it back out if they can rather than take the forced awkward shot from a bad angle. Cross finding her range helped yesterday. Agree, but as to Cross - she only took 2 shots (made 'em both). The problem they face going forward is other than BPC, the really don't have many other consistent offensive options. Allen has been great, but yesterday is fine example of the season to date after a great first half, only took 1 shot in the second half.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 30, 2021 14:11:23 GMT -5
Demski is improving steadily like a freshman, which she kinda is after all her injuries. It will be interesting to see how she finds her niche vs PL competition. She's like a starting pitcher coming off the disabled list in August, potential to really help down the stretch. A little puzzling we didn't see Munt or Berger, but can't argue with success and there had to have been a logical reason.
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Post by HC13 on Dec 30, 2021 14:25:21 GMT -5
I think in the case of Munt, she had her shoulder taped up in the last 2 games she played in, so I'd guess a lingering injury. I'm not shocked that Berger has not seen much playing time, not every big makes a smooth the transition to D1. I had hoped she would be ready right out of the block, but clearly not the case, to the point of taking mins from Demski anyways. In truth, I have struggled to make sense of their rotations, but assume the nagging injuries are causing some of the decisions.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 30, 2021 15:49:32 GMT -5
I think in the case of Munt, she had her shoulder taped up in the last 2 games she played in, so I'd guess a lingering injury. I'm not shocked that Berger has not seen much playing time, not every big makes a smooth the transition to D1. I had hoped she would be ready right out of the block, but clearly not the case, to the point of taking mins from Demski anyways. In truth, I have struggled to make sense of their rotations, but assume the nagging injuries are causing some of the decisions. To that point, Ezemma doesn't get as many minutes as could be justified. There is a possibility that Coach is maximizing her contribution and avoiding diminishing returns from extra minutes. Hard to say.
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Post by lou on Dec 30, 2021 15:58:33 GMT -5
Navy switched to the zone in the 2nd Q. Made a difference in our scoring opportunities
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Post by bison137 on Dec 31, 2021 0:03:59 GMT -5
The navy announcer is very good and I believe also handles their football play by play - he had a very good line last year when our women played at navy - when he announced Addy Cross into the game he said ‘wouldn’t it be great if her middle name was ‘Holly’ ‘ The announcer is Pete Medhurst, who I agree is very good. He does a few women's games - but does their men's games home and away, so he is not available for many women's games. I like him better on the men's games where he is paired with former Navy star Mike Heary. As you mention he also does football PBP for radio. Also does lacrosse and baseball. Medhurst has posted periodically on the Bucknell board to discuss basketball stuff. Has had some interesting comments.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 31, 2021 0:17:26 GMT -5
NE Patriots PBP guy Bob Socci announced Navy games before replacing the legendary Gil Santos, who used to announce Penn State Football, behind the Pat's radio mic.
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Post by hc6774 on Dec 31, 2021 8:06:41 GMT -5
The navy announcer is very good and I believe also handles their football play by play - he had a very good line last year when our women played at navy - when he announced Addy Cross into the game he said ‘wouldn’t it be great if her middle name was ‘Holly’ ‘ The announcer is Pete Medhurst, who I agree is very good. He does a few women's games - but does their men's games home and away, so he is not available for many women's games. I like him better on the men's games where he is paired with former Navy star Mike Heary. As you mention he also does football PBP for radio. Also does lacrosse and baseball. Medhurst has posted periodically on the Bucknell board to discuss basketball stuff. Has had some interesting comments. From his Linkedin Experienced On Air Talent/Play-by-Play with experience in Play-By-Play has included MLB, MILB, College Baseball, College Football, Water Polo, Wrestling, Swimming, Track and Field, Lacrosse, Horse Racing, Softball, Field Hockey. Currently the PXP Voice of The Naval Academy, Announcer at Rosecroft Raceway, On Air Talent Audacy’s The Team 980 in DC, Lacrosse on Big Ten Network, Assistant Sports Supervisor at Anne Arundel County Recreation and Parks. Ability to do shows from home with Network quality equipment and can tailor it to fit your market. Longtime youth league coach, 30+years and Umpire and Basketball Referee
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Post by lowerkimball on Dec 31, 2021 9:48:00 GMT -5
In conference play any win on the road is a good one so certainly will take it. Would love to know how Coleman ended up at Navy, maybe a military background in the family? She's quite a talent. Outside of her I still can't believe how far off Navy has fallen.. I don't think she was nearly as good in HS as she is now. She improved a lot in her redshirt year at the Naval Academy Prep School before entering the Academy. Coleman came close to flunking out her sophomore year, becoming academically ineligible for much of the season. If she hadn't pulled up her grades, imagine how bad Navy would be now. She is leading the PL in scoring, rebounds, assists, and steals - all by a good margin. Last year she was top three in the four categories - but only made 2nd team All-PL. Good feedback, Bison. Not to mention she's leading in all of those categories while being the main defensive focus of her opponents every game. I think she's by far the best player in the league regardless of whether or not she wins PL POY or not. I'd include O'Brien (Buck) behind her and Edwards (AU), Hottinger (LU), and Johnson (BU) rounding out the 1st team at this point with O'Brien the most likely POY winner.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 31, 2021 11:59:19 GMT -5
Bison, Why did you feel the need to post Coleman’s academic history ? It was totally unnecessary.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 31, 2021 12:16:54 GMT -5
Bison, Why did you feel the need to post Coleman’s academic history ? It was totally unnecessary. It was well known and a number of articles were written about it in the local papers. Also was mentioned on gamecasts. It wasn’t anything they tried to hide. If anything she should be commended for having pulled up her grades and being in position to graduate. No reason to try to hide it.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 31, 2021 12:31:41 GMT -5
It was not common knowledge here on Crossports. It was unnecessary. Your rationale is lacking. You have not answered my question.
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Post by HC13 on Dec 31, 2021 12:47:47 GMT -5
It was common knowledge amongst those who follow the women. She deserves high praise for for staying at Navy when she could have easily bailed as so many others do. She is neither the first or last player at the academies to take a year off from BB.
I had previously posted an article about year ago about her situation.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 31, 2021 12:59:56 GMT -5
Simply saying "academically ineligible" might have sufficed. But posting this does explain the temporary absence from her team, as opposed to an injury, so it was informative.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 31, 2021 13:21:56 GMT -5
It was not common knowledge here on Crossports. It was unnecessary. Your rationale is lacking. You have not answered my question. I already answered the question. It was not some deep secret. Was widely discussed in Maryland newspapers and on message boards. Navy did not make any attempt to hide it. I posted it in response to a post about how bad Navy was, theorizing how bad they would have been had she flunked out. This is not the first discussion on a PL player with academic problems. Not even the tenth.
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 31, 2021 13:46:17 GMT -5
I share Mr. Bison's contention that Coleman's academic status was made public at the time of her suspension from the team and discussed upon her return as well. This is a young person learning to grow and understand accountability. She's allowed to make mistakes, learn from them, and bounce back. It appears she has done that with regard to her academics and I think we can all appreciate her overcoming that obstacle. Discussing it as a a matter of fact is fine in my view and is certainly different than mocking her for it (which isn't the case here). I don't see a foul on this play and think we can all keep the whistle in our pocket on this one. Academics at the service academies are challenging. Just a personal view here, but I think it's beneficial to hold our young people accountable while also giving them a chance to grow and rebound. And discussing those failures (for most issues) probably does a good service to other young folks who can learn from those mistakes--or to others who can value the importance of moving ahead in life after failures/pitfalls or mistakes and promote support for others who need it overcoming their own hurdles. I am not sure avoiding those discussions really helps anyone in the end. Framing those issues in a respectful way can help foster good and productive discussions. The new generation needs both the accountability and support.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 31, 2021 14:05:04 GMT -5
Hoops can speak for himself but I think the “almost flunked out” was considered a cheap shot. As I posted before “academically ineligible” might have sufficed.
A close call in my book.
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Post by lou on Dec 31, 2021 14:10:11 GMT -5
No reason to rehash here, especially since it was well known, common knowledge and widely discussed elsewhere
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 31, 2021 14:14:58 GMT -5
Hoops can speak for himself but I think the “almost flunked out” was considered a cheap shot. As I posted before “academically ineligible” might have sufficed. A close call in my book. So a block/charge?
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Post by timholycross on Dec 31, 2021 16:16:33 GMT -5
Hoops can speak for himself but I think the “almost flunked out” was considered a cheap shot. As I posted before “academically ineligible” might have sufficed. A close call in my book. You mean someone who's Academically Ineligible is often NOT in danger of flunking out? To me they are one and the same, and I don't think a place with rigorous overall (not just studies) standards like the USNA it's anything to be ashamed of.
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