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Post by longsuffering on Aug 9, 2022 20:48:20 GMT -5
Anyone know if they still have the laundry in the Campion basement? I laughed every time I went down there as they had wooden stalls in which some wag carved in "Someday I'll own this place, Ray Swords '38" (think that was his graduation year). Also, how about "You'll Notis the difference?" The on-campus pizza place. I remember fondly many trips to Notis - both for pizza (clearly not a NY slice) or a grinder made with a good soft roll, sliced provolone, sliced baloney, black olives, tomato wedges and mayo. I still make one of those occasionally to watch HC games on ESPN+.. Get one of those artery cloggers ready for 7pm on Friday, September 2 and tune in to NECfrontrow.com. That's the streaming option listed on the Merrimack schedule. There does not appear to be a fee or registration required.
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 10, 2022 20:04:35 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 10, 2022 20:05:43 GMT -5
I remember fondly many trips to Notis - both for pizza (clearly not a NY slice) or a grinder made with a good soft roll, sliced provolone, sliced baloney, black olives, tomato wedges and mayo. I still make one of those occasionally to watch HC games on ESPN+.. Get one of those artery cloggers ready for 7pm on Friday, September 2 and tune in to NECfrontrow.com. That's the streaming option listed on the Merrimack schedule. There does not appear to be a fee or registration required. NECFrontRow is free but very bare bones compared to ESPN+.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 29, 2022 17:47:28 GMT -5
Still no word on the exact size of the class. They do come from 33 states, and either 34 or 35 countries. The College does not have flags for about half the countries.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 29, 2022 19:01:16 GMT -5
Is this acceptance error a way to grow the school to 4000 by 2028
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 29, 2022 19:12:11 GMT -5
I thought it was not an acceptance error but, rather, an unanticipated increase in yield
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 29, 2022 19:14:33 GMT -5
That's correct, KY.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 29, 2022 19:48:43 GMT -5
Spin off from football success.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 30, 2022 6:17:08 GMT -5
The number is 904. The number of countries apparently incudes dual citizenships.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 30, 2022 9:30:02 GMT -5
I was five over. No Price is Right prize for me. Was the increased yield a one time fluke or is HC just that good? Did some of our overage get rejected at the Colgates, BCs and Fordhams or were they HC all the way?
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 30, 2022 10:04:42 GMT -5
Really, really not trying to make this political but I have to believe that some of this has to do with the Covid situation the last couple of years.
While doing the Move-In Day chalkboard thing, at least one of the first year students put that she was 20 years old. Now we know it wasn't like she got left back a couple of years. Since she was with 4 of her new friends, I did not want to pry and ask her why the additional 2 years of age. (I had already screwed up and asked a senior walking by if she was a new first year student - she was the captain of the soccer team I posted about earlier). But if you recall, HC allowed some kids admitted during the height of the pandemic to postpone their matriculation. Not sure how many did this.
Coach Chesney did tell me that it'll take 2 more years for the Covid "advantage" (my words, absolutely not his!) to wash out the extra year of eligibility.
I also have to think that improved facilities (i.e. The Jo and PPAC coming on line as well as Luth) has to have an impact on improved yield.
Like an airplane crash, it is likely a synergistic number of factors, not just one thing, that accounts for the significant increase in in 2026 Class size.
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Post by alum on Aug 30, 2022 10:18:01 GMT -5
Really, really not trying to make this political but I have to believe that some of this has to do with the Covid situation the last couple of years. While doing the Move-In Day chalkboard thing, at least one of the first year students put that she was 20 years old. Now we know it wasn't like she got left back a couple of years. Since she was with 4 of her new friends, I did not want to pry and ask her why the additional 2 years of age. (I had already screwed up and asked a senior walking by if she was a new first year student - she was the captain of the soccer team I posted about earlier). But if you recall, HC allowed some kids admitted during the height of the pandemic to postpone their matriculation. Not sure how many did this. Coach Chesney did tell me that it'll take 2 more years for the Covid "advantage" (my words, absolutely not his!) to wash out the extra year of eligibility. I also have to think that improved facilities (i.e. The Jo and PPAC coming on line as well as Luth) has to have an impact on improved yield. Like an airplane crash, it is likely a synergistic number of factors, not just one thing, that accounts for the significant increase in in 2026 Class size. There could be a lot of reasons for older students for reasons that go back to when the kids were 5. The parents may have kept a kid with an August birthday home so she would be older when starting school. Some kids (not just athletes) transfer to prep school and repeat a year. Some likely took a gap year due to Covid and then applied. Others appplied two years ago and were given permission to defer a year. For the 20 year olds, two of these factors likely apply. None of that explains how admissions ended up with this class but, at the end of the day, we (except for 92 and his son) ought to be happy and recognize that too many kids is a sign of something right and not something wrong about HC.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 30, 2022 10:33:17 GMT -5
Following up on sader1970's thoughts---maybe the Prior Performing Arts Center has attracted a bunch of actors/singers/dancers/musicians who might not have applied to or chosen HC a few years ago?
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 30, 2022 10:40:04 GMT -5
I asked one of the staffers about any increase in Fine Arts majors due to PPAC. His response was that he didn’t know specific numbers for 2026 incoming students but the PPAC was built with the intention of being attractive for those with a bent towards the arts.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 30, 2022 11:23:50 GMT -5
Really, really not trying to make this political but I have to believe that some of this has to do with the Covid situation the last couple of years. While doing the Move-In Day chalkboard thing, at least one of the first year students put that she was 20 years old. Now we know it wasn't like she got left back a couple of years. Since she was with 4 of her new friends, I did not want to pry and ask her why the additional 2 years of age. (I had already screwed up and asked a senior walking by if she was a new first year student - she was the captain of the soccer team I posted about earlier). But if you recall, HC allowed some kids admitted during the height of the pandemic to postpone their matriculation. Not sure how many did this. Coach Chesney did tell me that it'll take 2 more years for the Covid "advantage" (my words, absolutely not his!) to wash out the extra year of eligibility. I also have to think that improved facilities (i.e. The Jo and PPAC coming on line as well as Luth) has to have an impact on improved yield. Like an airplane crash, it is likely a synergistic number of factors, not just one thing, that accounts for the significant increase in in 2026 Class size. The admitted class of 2024 had about 80 students who chose to take a gap year. because of COVID. IIRC, about 65 of these subsequently enrolled as a member of the class of the class of 2025. Its possible that something similar happened in private schools, with students, in effect, reclassifying by repeating a year or staying out a year.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 30, 2022 11:29:03 GMT -5
Following up on sader1970's thoughts---maybe the Prior Performing Arts Center has attracted a bunch of actors/singers/dancers/musicians who might not have applied to or chosen HC a few years ago? At the convocation for the class of 2026 yesterday, I believe it can be found on YouTube, there was a young male pianist who played extraordinarily well, to my tin ear anyway. He may have been the student who has given recitals in noted concert halls.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 30, 2022 11:57:48 GMT -5
I asked one of the staffers about any increase in Fine Arts majors due to PPAC. His response was that he didn’t know specific numbers for 2026 incoming students but the PPAC was built with the intention of being attractive for those with a bent towards the arts. Wouldn’t it be performing arts not fine arts?
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 30, 2022 12:03:55 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by hcpride on Aug 30, 2022 12:45:33 GMT -5
I was five over. No Price is Right prize for me. Was the increased yield a one time fluke or is HC just that good? Did some of our overage get rejected at the Colgates, BCs and Fordhams or were they HC all the way? Not sure about Colgate but I figure our HC regular admit kids applied to 10-15 schools and were accepted to some and rejected by some (and we have a significant applicant overlap with both Fordham and Boston College).
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Post by mm67 on Aug 30, 2022 16:38:35 GMT -5
Musings. It seems to me that some higher profile colleges - Harvard, U of Chicago - award an AB degree. I received an AB History degree from HC. Why did HC jettison the AB and adopt the more common BA? What was the reason? What was the point?
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 30, 2022 17:18:23 GMT -5
It was the Bachelor of Science BS that we all got and that was switched to a BA Bachelor of Arts. I remember getting to choose which I wanted on my diploma. IIRC the difference between BA and AB is whether you are using Latin or English.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 30, 2022 17:50:39 GMT -5
It was the Bachelor of Science BS that we all got and that was switched to a BA Bachelor of Arts. IIRC the difference between BA and AB is whether you are using Latin or English. In other words, whether you are dead or alive?
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 30, 2022 18:30:39 GMT -5
Can't speak for you '67 guys (well, I can actually) but my father's ('42) diploma hanging on the wall above mine is in Latin, as is mine and they are BOTH A.B. RGS is correct. A.B. in Latin, for those who graduated from lesser schools whose diplomas are in English, they get B.A.s. They did away with B.S. degrees for even the science majors by the time I graduated. Are you saying that they now give out B.A.s? That would lead me to believe the diplomas are in (horrors!!) ENGLISH!!! (no wonder our USN&WR ranking has dropped). P.S. It was nice that they gave us the English translation of the diploma because despite having been an altar boy and having passed the NY State Regents Latin test, by 1970 I had forgotten too much to be able to translate most of it.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 30, 2022 18:35:30 GMT -5
I created a diploma from Breen’s Tavern which Father Hamilton was delighted to translate into Latin. All the Breen’s regulars from our Wheeler crew were awarded one.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 30, 2022 18:36:58 GMT -5
The B. S. degrees were awarded to those who declined / refused to take two years of Latin. The A.B. degrees went to the Latin (and occasional Greek) scholars.
HC 60-70 years ago awarded a B.S. in Business Administration. That was dropped in the 1970s when the Jesuits decided that HC would be the only Jesuit liberal arts college in the universe.
I suspect, until WWII, all HC degrees were A.B., and possibly without a major; i.e., A.B. or A.B. Liberal Arts
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