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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 5, 2022 19:46:20 GMT -5
Thank you for the thorough and enlightening response
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 6, 2022 8:39:31 GMT -5
Yes, Holy Cross focuses more on need-based aid. Which is why we are able to be need-blind and provide opportunities to many who would otherwise not be able to afford to attend. This article said that Holy Cross went "need-aware" in 2019. "We fought the fight for a good long time, and given our endowment we would probably be one of the, if you will, ‘poorest’ schools that continued this policy for as long as we did,” said Director of Admissions Ann McDermott in an interview with the Spire. McDermott compared the need-blind policy to “a blank check that you don’t know what the dollar amount is going to be. At some point it becomes unsustainable,” said McDermott." hcspire.com/2019/04/10/the-college-quietly-abandons-prestigious-need-blind-admissions-policy/FWIW, Holy Cross was, but is no longer listed in, the 568 Group, a consortium of schools committed to need-based aid. www.568group.org/home/?q=node/24
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Post by alum on Jul 6, 2022 8:49:55 GMT -5
Yes, Holy Cross focuses more on need-based aid. Which is why we are able to be need-blind and provide opportunities to many who would otherwise not be able to afford to attend. This article said that Holy Cross went "need-aware" in 2019. "We fought the fight for a good long time, and given our endowment we would probably be one of the, if you will, ‘poorest’ schools that continued this policy for as long as we did,” said Director of Admissions Ann McDermott in an interview with the Spire. McDermott compared the need-blind policy to “a blank check that you don’t know what the dollar amount is going to be. At some point it becomes unsustainable,” said McDermott." hcspire.com/2019/04/10/the-college-quietly-abandons-prestigious-need-blind-admissions-policy/FWIW, Holy Cross was, but is no longer listed in, the 568 Group, a consortium of schools committed to need-based aid. www.568group.org/home/?q=node/24If I recall correctly, HC is need aware for the last 5% or so of the class. They ought to find a way to get back to completely need blind.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 6, 2022 10:16:41 GMT -5
They could do that for 2023-24 by keeping BN for a fifth year.
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Post by HC92 on Aug 8, 2022 11:31:56 GMT -5
Every room but one on Mulledy/Brooks 4 is a triple for freshmen this year. The last one is a quad. My son is in the quad. Glad I’m paying the same room and board as people in a double. Allegedly the room for the forced quad may be bigger than the rooms for the forced triples.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 8, 2022 12:02:02 GMT -5
Every room but one on Mulledy/Brooks 4 is a triple for freshmen this year. The last one is a quad. My son is in the quad. Glad I’m paying the same room and board as people in a double. Allegedly the room for the forced quad may be bigger than the rooms for the forced triples. Those room are small for two people.
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Post by HC92 on Aug 8, 2022 12:14:37 GMT -5
Every room but one on Mulledy/Brooks 4 is a triple for freshmen this year. The last one is a quad. My son is in the quad. Glad I’m paying the same room and board as people in a double. Allegedly the room for the forced quad may be bigger than the rooms for the forced triples. Those room are small for two people. My sister who knows Mulledy/Brooks says you’re better off with 4 in the triple room than 3 in the double room. So maybe we got luckier than others. Going to be a lot of unhappy calls to campus today.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 8, 2022 12:50:43 GMT -5
When is “Move-In Day” this year?
I usually get an invitation to help but perhaps since I didn’t last year they took me off the list of returnees.
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Post by hc87 on Aug 8, 2022 13:12:28 GMT -5
Those room are small for two people. My sister who knows Mulledy/Brooks says you’re better off with 4 in the triple room than 3 in the double room. So maybe we got luckier than others. Going to be a lot of unhappy calls to campus today. If memory serves (touch&go these days), I would concur with this assessment. The regular Hill dorm rooms for 2 were tight in the 80's...many constucted bunk-beds to give the room more living space. Three in such a room is going to be tight...I think 4 in a "triple" will be more livable. Of course, this pales to the rooming crisis when my Dad entered HC in July of '45...I think he was in a barracks style arrangement of about 20 guys in O'Kane/Fenwick somewhere before ultimately moving into Carlin at some point.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 8, 2022 14:01:15 GMT -5
HC92: Congratulations on your new Crusader!!! He made a very wise choice
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Post by HC92 on Aug 8, 2022 23:12:33 GMT -5
HC92: Congratulations on your new Crusader!!! He made a very wise choice Let’s hope so. We’re not off to a great start with the housing situation but hopefully things will turn around soon.
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Post by timholycross on Aug 9, 2022 7:16:29 GMT -5
Our class, 73, forced the administration to reactivate Campion (?) and the 4th floor of Fenwick. Neither was perceived as being that safe, they didn't use them very long.
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Post by alum on Aug 9, 2022 7:21:53 GMT -5
HC92: Congratulations on your new Crusader!!! He made a very wise choice Let’s hope so. We’re not off to a great start with the housing situation but hopefully things will turn around soon. It will be great and, think about it, when the new apartments are done next year, the trickle down effect as to housing choices will make a lot of people happy. Maybe he can start negotiating with residential life for those in quads to get high housing lottery slots next year. (I also think housing lottery position should be based upon how many basketball games students attend.)
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Post by HC92 on Aug 9, 2022 8:20:06 GMT -5
I think the new dorms house 134 students. The Class of 2026 is oversubscribed by roughly 134 students so we’ll be back to even next year. And I imagine a decent number of the 134 who live in the new dorms otherwise would have lived off-campus so we’re not gaining 134 extra beds if we’re drawing more people to stay on campus.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 9, 2022 8:48:34 GMT -5
The two new residence halls have 144 beds. If the College had built the new Jesuit residence (planned construction was stopped by the loss of revenue from the COVID-related campus shutdown), Ciampi would have provided 75+ beds. If Ciampi was available this fall, there would be very few triples even with the 925+ students in the class of 2026.
I sense the size and location of the new Jesuit residence is under review, given that the number of Jesuits at the baccalaureate mass was nine, one of whom was Father Boroughs. If I were doing the campus plan, I'd demolish Campion and built a new Jesuit residence on the site.
144 plus 75+ would be sufficient beds to take one of the Easy St dorms off-line for a year for re-construction. However, because of the size of the class of 2026, the college may now elect to build another new residence hall before taking an Easy St dorm off-line.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 9, 2022 14:04:57 GMT -5
The two new residence halls have 144 beds. If the College had built the new Jesuit residence (planned construction was stopped by the loss of revenue from the COVID-related campus shutdown), Ciampi would have provided 75+ beds. If Ciampi was available this fall, there would be very few triples even with the 925+ students in the class of 2026. I sense the size and location of the new Jesuit residence is under review, given that the number of Jesuits at the baccalaureate mass was nine, one of whom was Father Boroughs. If I were doing the campus plan, I'd demolish Campion and built a new Jesuit residence on the site. 144 plus 75+ would be sufficient beds to take one of the Easy St dorms off-line for a year for re-construction. However, because of the size of the class of 2026, the college may now elect to build another new residence hall before taking an Easy St dorm off-line. Ciampi would perhaps be the building in the best condition ever demolished in Worcester. I hope the city would nix that proposal. Have some compassion for the poor suffering environment. I don't mean keep it under used but remodel it for student housing rather than demolish it.
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Post by bpob55 on Aug 9, 2022 15:33:07 GMT -5
When is “Move-In Day” this year? I usually get an invitation to help but perhaps since I didn’t last year they took me off the list of returnees. Freshman move in is the 27 of August. Many varsity teams who are already on campus are volunteering to help the freshmen move in.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Aug 9, 2022 15:41:04 GMT -5
Every room but one on Mulledy/Brooks 4 is a triple for freshmen this year. The last one is a quad. My son is in the quad. Glad I’m paying the same room and board as people in a double. Allegedly the room for the forced quad may be bigger than the rooms for the forced triples. That is outrageous. But good thing there's no more crazy kids partying on Caro!
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 9, 2022 16:13:28 GMT -5
I may have posted this before but IMHO, if students need to be tripled or quadrupled up, I think the student-athletes who are getting a full/free ride ought to be the ones that go there first, not the full or partial pays. But, perhaps those athletes wouldn't come to HC if that was the case.
BTW, can a student still get a private room if they pay extra?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 9, 2022 17:41:42 GMT -5
The two new residence halls have 144 beds. If the College had built the new Jesuit residence (planned construction was stopped by the loss of revenue from the COVID-related campus shutdown), Ciampi would have provided 75+ beds. If Ciampi was available this fall, there would be very few triples even with the 925+ students in the class of 2026. I sense the size and location of the new Jesuit residence is under review, given that the number of Jesuits at the baccalaureate mass was nine, one of whom was Father Boroughs. If I were doing the campus plan, I'd demolish Campion and built a new Jesuit residence on the site. 144 plus 75+ would be sufficient beds to take one of the Easy St dorms off-line for a year for re-construction. However, because of the size of the class of 2026, the college may now elect to build another new residence hall before taking an Easy St dorm off-line. Ciampi would perhaps be the building in the best condition ever demolished in Worcester. I hope the city would nix that proposal. Have some compassion for the poor suffering environment. I don't mean keep it under used but remodel it for student housing rather than demolish it. I was demolishing Campion, not Ciampi.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 9, 2022 17:43:43 GMT -5
I may have posted this before but IMHO, if students need to be tripled or quadrupled up, I think the student-athletes who are getting a full/free ride ought to be the ones that go there first, not the full or partial pays. But, perhaps those athletes wouldn't come to HC if that was the case. BTW, can a student still get a private room if they pay extra? the two new residence halls have several single bed rooms. Otherwise, I believe the suites are four and eight bed suites.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 9, 2022 17:48:01 GMT -5
Ciampi would perhaps be the building in the best condition ever demolished in Worcester. I hope the city would nix that proposal. Have some compassion for the poor suffering environment. I don't mean keep it under used but remodel it for student housing rather than demolish it. I was demolishing Campion, not Ciampi.
Thanks. I booked an appointment with my eye doctor. Campion survived an alleged Vietnam Era torching only to possibly fall to a wrecking ball half a century later. I wonder if the peace sign still lives on it's roof?
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 9, 2022 17:53:57 GMT -5
Anyone know if they still have the laundry in the Campion basement? I laughed every time I went down there as they had wooden stalls in which some wag carved in "Someday I'll own this place, Ray Swords '38" (think that was his graduation year).
Also, how about "You'll Notis the difference?" The on-campus pizza place.
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Post by HC92 on Aug 9, 2022 19:00:07 GMT -5
I may have posted this before but IMHO, if students need to be tripled or quadrupled up, I think the student-athletes who are getting a full/free ride ought to be the ones that go there first, not the full or partial pays. But, perhaps those athletes wouldn't come to HC if that was the case. BTW, can a student still get a private room if they pay extra? I would be very surprised if any recruited athlete wound up in a triple. I also learned recently that some sophs are sent to the “Edge” apartments downtown. My sense is that this is not always voluntary but I could be wrong about that. If my son has to live with 3 others in one room as a Frosh and then has to take a van to classes as a Soph, he might be in the portal.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 9, 2022 19:34:35 GMT -5
Anyone know if they still have the laundry in the Campion basement? I laughed every time I went down there as they had wooden stalls in which some wag carved in "Someday I'll own this place, Ray Swords '38" (think that was his graduation year). Also, how about "You'll Notis the difference?" The on-campus pizza place. I remember fondly many trips to Notis - both for pizza (clearly not a NY slice) or a grinder made with a good soft roll, sliced provolone, sliced baloney, black olives, tomato wedges and mayo. I still make one of those occasionally to watch HC games on ESPN+..
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