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Post by Tom on Jan 22, 2022 10:27:14 GMT -5
I like the creative thinking. One thing I wouldn’t do under this scenario is keep Georgetown around for football. They don’t add much and I’d rather have an extra OOC game. I don’t see it ever happening for a number of reasons, with the most important being that a 14-team, one-bid hoop conference is rough. Let's keep Georgetown so that DFW doesn't come on here in an hour and go totally ape. I actually like having them in the league. And typically the way it would work with a 10-team conference is you would play 8 conference games and each school would play 8 of the other 9, missing one. Not a fan of the not playing a conference rival. KInd of defeats the concept pf being in a conference. In theory you could have two undefeated teams. Who advances?
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Post by efg72 on Jan 22, 2022 11:30:46 GMT -5
Congratulations on your engagement. One of the many things that bother me about the PL is the fact it does so little, imho, to engage our alumni. Most of the schools are far removed from the areas with a high number of HC alums and frankly, I don't think any of the league schools move the needle in terms of interest. The PL is like a weak academic department at each institution. It is to speak and take actions only when the Presidents call on them, and promotion of the league is limited to the weekly highlights and updates during halftime or intermission of games. It is a feel good league designed to make alums and the public think that this is the way college sports should be played with the old definition of a student athlete. Unfortunately, the world has changed, more money is involved, a student athlete is defined differently, and college athletics are no longer pure. For those who started this league as a holding space waiting for inclusion to the Ivy League, they got the holding part right. The rest of us now have a view of what Limbo might be, and for some what that long wait to enter the heavenly gates might do to their soul as they have their spirit broken.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 22, 2022 11:32:46 GMT -5
Well, thanks for that, efg! I'm now pretty depressed.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 22, 2022 11:40:13 GMT -5
Well, thanks for that, efg! I'm now pretty depressed. Take two victories over Bucknell and call me in the morning.😊
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 22, 2022 11:41:46 GMT -5
👍😂😂😂😂
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Post by efg72 on Jan 22, 2022 11:42:53 GMT -5
Well, thanks for that, efg! I'm now pretty depressed. Didn’t mean to depress or offend by the comment, but express what I see as the reality of the league operation and management .
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Post by timholycross on Jan 22, 2022 13:30:46 GMT -5
IIRC George Carlin had a good routine about Limbo.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 23, 2022 10:00:22 GMT -5
Let's keep Georgetown so that DFW doesn't come on here in an hour and go totally ape. I actually like having them in the league. And typically the way it would work with a 10-team conference is you would play 8 conference games and each school would play 8 of the other 9, missing one. Not a fan of the not playing a conference rival. KInd of defeats the concept pf being in a conference. In theory you could have two undefeated teams. Who advances? Would have to be some kind of committee tie breaker. Which could happen in any conference. Even in the 7-team PL you could in theory have a 3 way tie for first where all three have one loss, to each other. Would've happened this year had we lost to Fordham. The Big Ten for years had 11 teams, played 8 conference games and everyone skipped 2 opponents.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 23, 2022 10:14:27 GMT -5
(Yawn)🥱 Long discussion about something that’s not going to happen. How about how many angels can fit on the head of a pin?😂
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 23, 2022 10:54:44 GMT -5
...or, why call an 11 team league the Big 10? Was that a deliberate slam at some conference member?
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 25, 2022 11:49:26 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Jan 25, 2022 14:48:49 GMT -5
IMHO it's a very good move for SBU
January 25, 2022 To the Stony Brook Athletics family: From our launch in 1957 to our ascension as one of the nation’s leading research institutions, Stony Brook University has experienced transformational growth academically and athletically. With equal parts ambition and determination, we have continued to soar by taking the bold steps necessary to advance the university’s mission. The strong foundation of intercollegiate athletics at Stony Brook took shape under the banner of Patriots at the Division III level and continued as we entered Division I in 1999 as Seawolves. Throughout our journey, we have reached historic heights while keeping our sights stretched far across the horizon. Today, we take the next step in our journey as we announce our move to the Colonial Athletic Association in all sports. In joining the CAA, a league that has been the home of Stony Brook Football since 2013, we align ourselves with a highly-regarded group of academic institutions within our immediate geographic footprint while expanding our reach into the mid-Atlantic region. I am very excited to share a conference home with our Long Island neighbor (and, yes, rival) Hofstra while expanding upon our existing football rivalries with Delaware, Elon, Towson, and William and Mary....
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Post by hcpride on Feb 18, 2022 14:03:09 GMT -5
NC A&T Director of Athletics Earl Hilton, in a 40-minute presentation before the Executive Committee of the university’s Board of Trustees Thursday, recommended that the school accept an invitation to move from the Big South Conference to the Colonial Athletic Association (CAA). Hilton’s recommendation was to accept the CAA’s invite for all sports except for football and bowling effective July 1, 2022. The proposal is to join the CAA for football in 2023. It is a decision that he has shared with both conferences, he said. hbcugameday.com/2022/02/17/nc-at-ask-for-approval-to-move-to-caa/
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 18, 2022 14:30:30 GMT -5
If a fine institution like NC A&T is in the CAA, I like the PL for HC.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 18, 2022 17:30:07 GMT -5
Actually A&T is a fine institution, and have known several people who attended, graduated and did well in their professions. North Carolina A&T certainly was a strong and viable option for many when The UNC system as well as NC state in the 1950’s and early 1960’s would not open the doors to their campuses to an array of citizens.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 18, 2022 18:28:27 GMT -5
Diplomatically put, my friend.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 18, 2022 19:16:38 GMT -5
I believe Jesse Jackson graduated from NC A&T
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 18, 2022 19:53:04 GMT -5
I didn't mean to denigrate NC A&T but I like the PL for HC because it is a refuge of as similar a grouping of D-1 schools in our general region as can be found. The lopsided Turnpike Trophy standings (A total shutout by B.U. since inception, with no sign off by Crossports on it's creation I might add ) shows that HC needs to find like minded dance partners in it unique D-1 niche to thrive.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 18, 2022 20:00:58 GMT -5
Another A&T alum, who is an American Hero, who life was taken is service to this country and science is Ronald McNair, class of 1971, physicist and NASA astronaut who died during the launch of the Space Shuttle Challenger in 1986.
Jesse Jackson also is a A&T alum as noted.
A&T students played a key role in the Civil Rights Movement with the Greensboro lunch counter sit in and boycott of Woolworths.
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Post by hcpride on Feb 18, 2022 20:59:26 GMT -5
CAA continues to gain in the diversity category (for folks who care about that sort of thing). Hampton University recently became a member so NC A&T would be the second HBCU. Howard is a potential third (there are reports they were invited and are considering).
FWIW NC A&T’s departure from The Big South means they’ll lose their football auto-bid unless they can attract another team.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 18, 2022 21:09:16 GMT -5
CAA continues to gain in the diversity category (for folks who care about that sort of thing). I care about it as Jesse Jackson's line at the 1988 DNC: "We came over in different ships but we're all in the same boat now" is one of my favorites. Along with Paul Tsongas in 1992 (I heard him say this in the Hogan Ballroom) "Everybody in, nobody out" but HC needs to be select to be viable in D-1. PVR has identified HC's mission as becoming an elite liberal arts undergraduate college. To do this and shine in D-1 Athletics at the same time requires careful consideration of league affiliation.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Feb 18, 2022 21:33:24 GMT -5
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Post by mainejeff on Feb 18, 2022 22:06:46 GMT -5
Bryant is joining America East next season....and placing their football program in the Big South. Negotiations are on-going between Quinnipiac and America East. Fairfield is also a rumored target if Q ends up joining the league. You guys need to get caught up on stuff.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 18, 2022 22:41:35 GMT -5
Good info Jeff. PL: home sweet home.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 19, 2022 7:50:37 GMT -5
Googling "Bryant" and "America East" produces nothing other than that article, which doesn't exist any more.
Same for "Quinnipiac" and "America East".
Taking your domino theory down a level, what exactly does AE offer Quinnipiac and Fairfield? Basketball is a wash, competitive-wise, maybe a dip. What other sports are AE superior in and/or the MAAC doesn't sponsor?
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