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Post by WCHC Sports on Jan 18, 2022 14:24:23 GMT -5
I'll tag onto that by saying I don't believe Ivermectin or horse Viagra or Clorox is the answer. You either get the shot because it makes sense for you and your medical profile, or you don't. Inventing treatments under reverse or fake expertise isn't the solution I am pushing for by any stretch. You're really lumping those three items together? From a "use this to fight COVID" standpoint, yes.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 18, 2022 14:32:30 GMT -5
The Tsongas Center is a better place to watch hoops (when they play there) and hockey. Haven't seen a hoops game at Tsongas, Their primary hoops venue (Costello) is not even close to Hart Costello might be the worst D-1 facility in the country.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Jan 18, 2022 14:33:34 GMT -5
Yes, I am wrong. Give me 10 more shots, each one making me more sick than the next, for a disease that I've already had, is less likely to hurt me than it was 24 months ago, and we have more treatments with scientifically-backed confidence. While I'm getting shots, I should stay home from work, keep my kids home from school, not go to sporting events, not go to restaurants, not shake peoples' hands, and test myself while many places won't actually accept negative test results as reasons to permit "normal" activity. I love it. Lil' John was rapping "SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS EVERRRRRYBODDDDY" not for tequila, but for Pfizer.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 18, 2022 14:43:15 GMT -5
I'll tag onto that by saying I don't believe Ivermectin or horse Viagra or Clorox is the answer. You either get the shot because it makes sense for you and your medical profile, or you don't.Inventing treatments under reverse or fake expertise isn't the solution I am pushing for by any stretch. Seems a rational and commonsense course of action when dealing with a respiratory virus. (Albeit thoroughly insufficient for a Covid-alarmist.)
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 18, 2022 14:57:44 GMT -5
You're really lumping those three items together? From a "use this to fight COVID" standpoint, yes. So, you believe Ivermectin to be worthless despite all the evidence to the contrary?
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 18, 2022 15:21:14 GMT -5
From a "use this to fight COVID" standpoint, yes. So, you believe Ivermectin to be worthless despite all the evidence to the contrary? Neh-eh-eh-eh Wilbur. It cured Mr. Ed's worms.đ To make up for that snarky comment I'll give everyone a tip that just got texted to me. Go to www.covidtest.gov and sign up for four free Covid tests to be sent to you by Uncle Sam. I signed up.
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Post by dadominate on Jan 18, 2022 15:26:14 GMT -5
From a "use this to fight COVID" standpoint, yes. So, you believe Ivermectin to be worthless despite all the evidence to the contrary? there are over 70 human studies of ivermectin for covid. c19ivermectin.com/a few minutes browsing this site "tells us all we need to know", to use a crossports term, regarding the mainstream media messaging on covid. while it didn't have to be this way if we had prioritized health over profit and control, covid has woken many people up to the lies they are being fed by the foxes guarding the henhouse.
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Post by Tom on Jan 18, 2022 15:30:28 GMT -5
Yes, I am wrong. Give me 10 more shots, each one making me more sick than the next, Lil' John was rapping "SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS EVERRRRRYBODDDDY" not for tequila, but for Pfizer. FWIW, I think 10 shots of tequila will also make you sick
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 18, 2022 15:31:01 GMT -5
70 Ivermectin tests, zero U.S. approvals as a treatment for Covid in humans, if I understand the propaganda from the MSM correctly.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 18, 2022 15:42:04 GMT -5
But does "Team complimentary pass list" include the visiting team or just the home team? Do visiting college players get to add names to a team complimentary pass list or do their friends and families have to purchase single game tickets for away games? Ask our friends at Bucknell They saved countless lives by preventing Covid-spreading HC parents from attending and infecting their non-Covid spreading parents. Truly heroic.
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Post by dadominate on Jan 18, 2022 15:47:47 GMT -5
70 Ivermectin tests, zero U.S. approvals as a treatment for Covid in humans, if I understand the propaganda from the MSM correctly. yes. therein lies the problem. worse yet, statements made by covid leadership that there is "no evidence for ivermectin" that have been made are blatantly untrue and representative of many other harmful lies that have cost thousands upon thousands of lives. www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/29/dr-anthony-fauci-ivermectin-covid-19-sotu-vpx.cnneven worse yet, among the billions of dollars the us government has invested in covid response, they have not meaningfully supported trials of ivermectin or other generic medications/treatments. the world has had to rely on underserved countries across the globe to carry the weight of assessment of safe, generic, widely available medications that help prevention and early treatment. it is absolutely disgusting and anyone who has been adversely affected by covid (read: everyone) should be furious.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Jan 18, 2022 16:03:01 GMT -5
From a "use this to fight COVID" standpoint, yes. So, you believe Ivermectin to be worthless despite all the evidence to the contrary? "All the evidence?" Where, in Kentucky? This isn't Minoxidil being prescribed to treat high blood pressure and then finding that it helps some people regrow hair. This is people using a medicine that's used to target parasites-- in HORSES-- thinking it will kill intra-cellular viruses in the same manner.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 18, 2022 16:45:01 GMT -5
So, you believe Ivermectin to be worthless despite all the evidence to the contrary? "All the evidence?" Where, in Kentucky? This isn't Minoxidil being prescribed to treat high blood pressure and then finding that it helps some people regrow hair. This is people using a medicine that's used to target parasites-- in HORSES-- thinking it will kill intra-cellular viruses in the same manner.
Well, I believe I have covid now and await the results from the test I took yesterday. In the meantime, I took Ivermectin yesterday and today and I'll let you know how it works out for me. "Where, in Kentucky?" -- is that some kind of snark against the commonwealth? Here's a study from the National Institute of Health--don't think it was from Kentucky Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
Background: After COVID-19 emerged on U.S shores, providers began reviewing the emerging basic science, translational, and clinical data to identify potentially effective treatment options. In addition, a multitude of both novel and repurposed therapeutic agents were used empirically and studied within clinical trials. Areas of Uncertainty: The majority of trialed agents have failed to provide reproducible, definitive proof of efficacy in reducing the mortality of COVID-19 with the exception of corticosteroids in moderate to severe disease. Recently, evidence has emerged that the oral antiparasitic agent ivermectin exhibits numerous antiviral and anti-inflammatory mechanisms with trial results reporting significant outcome benefits. Given some have not passed peer review, several expert groups including Unitaid/World Health Organization have undertaken a systematic global effort to contact all active trial investigators to rapidly gather the data needed to grade and perform meta-analyses. Data Sources: Data were sourced from published peer-reviewed studies, manuscripts posted to preprint servers, expert meta-analyses, and numerous epidemiological analyses of regions with ivermectin distribution campaigns. Therapeutic Advances: A large majority of randomized and observational controlled trials of ivermectin are reporting repeated, large magnitude improvements in clinical outcomes. Numerous prophylaxis trials demonstrate that regular ivermectin use leads to large reductions in transmission. Multiple, large ânatural experimentsâ occurred in regions that initiated âivermectin distributionâ campaigns followed by tight, reproducible, temporally associated decreases in case counts and case fatality rates compared with nearby regions without such campaigns. Conclusions: Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 18, 2022 17:18:45 GMT -5
"All the evidence?" Where, in Kentucky? This isn't Minoxidil being prescribed to treat high blood pressure and then finding that it helps some people regrow hair. This is people using a medicine that's used to target parasites-- in HORSES-- thinking it will kill intra-cellular viruses in the same manner.
Well, I believe I have covid now and await the results from the test I took yesterday. In the meantime, I took Ivermectin yesterday and today and I'll let you know how it works out for me. "Where, in Kentucky?" -- is that some kind of snark against the commonwealth? Here's a study from the National Institute of Health--don't think it was from Kentucky Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
Background: After COVID-19 emerged on U.S shores, providers began reviewing the emerging basic science, translational, and clinical data to identify potentially effective treatment options. In addition, a multitude of both novel and repurposed therapeutic agents were used empirically and studied within clinical trials. Areas of Uncertainty: The majority of trialed agents have failed to provide reproducible, definitive proof of efficacy in reducing the mortality of COVID-19 with the exception of corticosteroids in moderate to severe disease. Recently, evidence has emerged that the oral antiparasitic agent ivermectin exhibits numerous antiviral and anti-inflammatory mechanisms with trial results reporting significant outcome benefits. Given some have not passed peer review, several expert groups including Unitaid/World Health Organization have undertaken a systematic global effort to contact all active trial investigators to rapidly gather the data needed to grade and perform meta-analyses. Data Sources: Data were sourced from published peer-reviewed studies, manuscripts posted to preprint servers, expert meta-analyses, and numerous epidemiological analyses of regions with ivermectin distribution campaigns. Therapeutic Advances: A large majority of randomized and observational controlled trials of ivermectin are reporting repeated, large magnitude improvements in clinical outcomes. Numerous prophylaxis trials demonstrate that regular ivermectin use leads to large reductions in transmission. Multiple, large ânatural experimentsâ occurred in regions that initiated âivermectin distributionâ campaigns followed by tight, reproducible, temporally associated decreases in case counts and case fatality rates compared with nearby regions without such campaigns. Conclusions: Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.Get well soon!
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 18, 2022 18:17:56 GMT -5
This is not a study from the NIH. It is a study done by a very small group of physicians who believe in alternative treatments. They are members of this group. covid19criticalcare.com/The study appeared in a journal, The American Journal of Therapeutics, which primarily deals with pharmacology. I don't believe this journal is peer-reviewed. The lead author of the cited meta-analysis is Dr. Pierre Kory. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Kory
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Post by cmo on Jan 18, 2022 19:26:19 GMT -5
Yes, I am wrong. Give me 10 more shots, each one making me more sick than the next, Lil' John was rapping "SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS EVERRRRRYBODDDDY" not for tequila, but for Pfizer. FWIW, I think 10 shots of tequila will also make you sick i can confirm
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 18, 2022 20:39:14 GMT -5
A colleague of mine in North Carolina believes something similar to WCHC. However, it is bourbon he relies on and not Vodka. It is something he started using when he was in Nam. Some started using pot, he went with bourbon. They are now dead and gone, he is still downing bourbon. Does that prove anything?
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 18, 2022 20:42:20 GMT -5
A colleague of mine in North Carolina believes something similar to WCHC. However, it is bourbon he relies on and not Vodka. It is something he started using when he was in Nam. Some started using pot, he went with bourbon. They are now dead and gone, he is still downing bourbon. Does that prove anything? That he's well preserved?
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Post by WCHC Sports on Jan 19, 2022 8:41:47 GMT -5
A colleague of mine in North Carolina believes something similar to WCHC. However, it is bourbon he relies on and not Vodka. It is something he started using when he was in Nam. Some started using pot, he went with bourbon. They are now dead and gone, he is still downing bourbon. Does that prove anything? To be clear, tequila makes ol' WCHC do things that resemble a cross between tailgaters at a Bills game and the ape house at the Bronx Zoo. I steer clear of it nearly religiously. When I drink, I go to Brown Town, so scotch or whiskey.
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Post by timholycross on Jan 19, 2022 10:19:33 GMT -5
The Tsongas Center is a better place to watch hoops (when they play there) and hockey. Haven't seen a hoops game at Tsongas, Their primary hoops venue (Costello) is not even close to Hart Learned something from this tangent. Wasn't aware that UML played a game or two at Tsongas; although given there have been/will be MIAA hoop tournament games there, it makes sense that there would be. And, apparently, Merrimack does the same thing; most basketball games at their gym and some at their hockey venue. Having not been in either place, will refrain from speculating about their size/condition.
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Post by Tom on Jan 19, 2022 11:10:55 GMT -5
Haven't seen a hoops game at Tsongas, Their primary hoops venue (Costello) is not even close to Hart Learned something from this tangent. Wasn't aware that UML played a game or two at Tsongas; although given there have been/will be MIAA hoop tournament games there, it makes sense that there would be. And, apparently, Merrimack does the same thing; most basketball games at their gym and some at their hockey venue. Having not been in either place, will refrain from speculating about their size/condition. I only learned a couple of weeks ago that the school now owns Tsongas. I think BU is decent analogy. They used to play some basketball at Agganis, but gave up on that. I don't know if Lowell draws better at Tsongas, but based on my tiny sample, it would be horrible to put that few people in that arena
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 19, 2022 11:25:52 GMT -5
UMass Amherst buys Mt. Ida, UMAss Lowell buys Tsongas Arena. Marty Meehan is on quite a shopping spree. He must go to foreclosure auctions on weekends as a hobby.
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Post by timholycross on Jan 19, 2022 12:20:00 GMT -5
Learned something from this tangent. Wasn't aware that UML played a game or two at Tsongas; although given there have been/will be MIAA hoop tournament games there, it makes sense that there would be. And, apparently, Merrimack does the same thing; most basketball games at their gym and some at their hockey venue. Having not been in either place, will refrain from speculating about their size/condition. I only learned a couple of weeks ago that the school now owns Tsongas. I think BU is decent analogy. They used to play some basketball at Agganis, but gave up on that. I don't know if Lowell draws better at Tsongas, but based on my tiny sample, it would be horrible to put that few people in that arena Before that, BU played some games at Walter Brown Arena when Pitino was coaching. Gave it up and went back to The Roof exclusively. The only reason for trying Agganis was that it was much nicer than Walter Brown. But, it was pretty much a foregone conclusion they wouldn't draw anyone; so back to The Roof again.
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Post by dadominate on Jan 19, 2022 12:35:54 GMT -5
This is not a study from the NIH. It is a study done by a very small group of physicians who believe in alternative treatments. They are members of this group. covid19criticalcare.com/The study appeared in a journal, The American Journal of Therapeutics, which primarily deals with pharmacology. I don't believe this journal is peer-reviewed. The lead author of the cited meta-analysis is Dr. Pierre Kory. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Koryglad to see the digging, phreek. american journal of therapeutics is indeed peer-reviewed and PubMed/Medline-indexed (a key factor for credibility). the impact factor is around 2 (not great, but decent) and h-index of 62 (62 articles of this journal have more than 62 number of citations). there has been some serious publication bias and even some lawsuits against the journal publisher elsevier. dr. peter mccullough, who has over 600 peer-reviewed publications (and exceptional amount... one of the most published physician scientists in the world) and dr. jessica rose have launched a suit for a vaers paper that was accepted for publication, and pulled for non-scientific reasons prior to the fda meeting of covid vaccines for children. stay tuned as this will have a major impact on science going forward. as for wchc's question regarding why ivermectin (being a human pharmaceutical product) wouldn't have pharma support, it is actually quite the contrary. once a product goes generic as ivermectin is, there is tremendous incentive against its use since there is limited profit from that point forward. a course of treatment for ivermectin costs about $5 in most countries. we are sitting on a slew off generic medications that we know are safe after decades of use and could be useful for covid (fluvoxamine, hydroxycholoroquine, etc.) and many other conditions.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 19, 2022 13:16:38 GMT -5
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