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Post by rgs318 on Jun 16, 2022 12:49:46 GMT -5
If the player could make such a poor choice, perhaps he is not someone HC would ultimately want. He has a price and apparently believes that short-term cash is more important than a valuable education with life-long benefits.
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Post by res on Jun 16, 2022 13:07:59 GMT -5
But who exactly is footing the bill here ? Your guess is as good as mine, but I bet it's not a local car dealer. Sounds like the same old boosters. It's not supposed to be, but...
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 16, 2022 14:29:40 GMT -5
Will Dajion Humphrey find a place to play in 22-23 ?
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 16, 2022 14:41:59 GMT -5
Not that I have any say, but he's welcome to lace em up in the Hart Center using the last available scholarship in my book. If we could lose one less Crusader to the portal this year I would be pleased.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 16, 2022 16:15:17 GMT -5
Kit indicated to me that he believed there was going to be a shake up soon in the NCAA and emphasized that numerically there are a lot more FCS level schools than FBS. Not sure he was hinting at a split. But that was my impression.
I suspect some might be coming around to a closer Brooks thinking or at least schools who won’t be doing the NIL or other limitations as I don’t think we are the only ones who think things have gone over the top.
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Post by deep Purple on Jun 16, 2022 17:04:19 GMT -5
James Hong just got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame In many films and tv shows, the two I know him for are:' 1. The butler in Chinatown 2. "Cartwright Party of 4"! That's great news. Per IMDB, Hong was in an episode of a 1956 tv series called "Crusader"
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Post by hchoops on Jun 16, 2022 17:27:23 GMT -5
We have been talking about an NIL in the thousands. Reports are that Kentucky’s Player of the Year, Oscar Tshiebwe, is getting $1MM Ky Have you been involved ?
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Post by bison137 on Jun 16, 2022 18:04:58 GMT -5
We have been talking about an NIL in the thousands. Reports are that Kentucky’s Player of the Year, Oscar Tshiebwe, is getting $1MM Ky Have you been involved ? Peanuts. Pitt WR Jordan Addison is reportedly going to get $3M+ for transferring to USC.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 16, 2022 18:32:18 GMT -5
Kit mentioned that HC had lost two PL rookie-of-the-year tp the transfer portal. Presumably the sports were baseball and men's basketball. He alluded to the portal, and talked about a player receiving $10,000 annual NIL, and thought the value of a HC education was worth more than that. Could he have meant Luc and Joe P. if the conversation was centered on basketball? The conversation was not centered on basketball. The prefatory narrative before the discussion about the value of a HC education mentioned that HC had two PL rookies of the year who had entered the portal this year. He did not name the sports. The point he was making is that you can't be competitive in a sport if your best players are exiting via the transfer portal. And he reiterated that the plan is to increase scollies (in those sports where HC"s number of scollies is comparatively low) to a level that corresponds the average number of scollies for a sport awarded by the other Pl schools. E.g., if the average number of scollies for men's lacrosse is eight, then HC will ramp up scollies to a level corresponding to the average.
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Post by HC92 on Jun 17, 2022 6:19:12 GMT -5
If the player could make such a poor choice, perhaps he is not someone HC would ultimately want. He has a price and apparently believes that short-term cash is more important than a valuable education with life-long benefits. Kids and their families are making these decisions every day. My son got offered more than $10K in academic money at both Fairfield and Fordham. He’s going to HC but it wouldn’t have been crazy for him to take the money. I suspect many others in the same position do take the money.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 17, 2022 6:58:05 GMT -5
I turned down money (many) years ago from partial scholarships to Georgetown, Brown, Providence and others to go to HC. I have never regretted that decision. Money need not be the final decision about everything in life. I can understand why some young people might make that choice but it still a choice...one with consequences.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 17, 2022 7:10:58 GMT -5
Many families make the choice for good economic reasons. Very understandable. $10,000 are a lot of good reasons.
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Post by mm67 on Jun 17, 2022 7:22:30 GMT -5
Back in the day many HC students had offers other prestigious & IL schools. We had choices. And, money was a factor for some. The hook for HC was that it was the "finest CATHOLIC undergraduate college in the country." At that time I wanted to attend a Catholic college. Ruled out Cornell. Then, why not G-town or ND? G-town did not have a college football team. What was I going to do on those crisp autumn Saturday afternoons? Big time ND level football was a turnoff. And, HC was at the top of Catholic academia. Thus, I chose HC. My dad , a Fordham grad looked at me in bewilderment. You're going to HC for football? Eventually, he understood.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 5, 2022 21:32:32 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Jul 6, 2022 7:49:15 GMT -5
We have been hurt by the portal and its combined evils of both immediate eligibility and free Covid year, but I just read that a very successful St.Bonaventure team lost eleven, 11, players, including 5 starters, all of whom were eligible to return.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 6, 2022 7:58:53 GMT -5
Is the "must sit out a year" rule, suspended due to the Covid pandemic, going to return, or is it done forever?
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 6, 2022 8:07:09 GMT -5
IMHO, while nothing is "forever," it is here to stay for the foreseeable future. What is the actual/practical explanation for a sit-out year other than the NCAA exercising their power when coaches can come and go? The direction seems to be to treat student-athletes (sometimes the term is used very loosely) as free-agents. More power to the players even if it makes coaching more complicated. But just like freshmen could play; then couldn't play; now can play varsity, who knows what the long term future holds?
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 6, 2022 8:35:20 GMT -5
The portal balances interests and should settle down to a workable arrangement after a while.
It's being abused now but the ills of it will become apparent. Initially most players have focused on the benefits. When the horror stories come to light, students and schools will measure twice and cut once.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 6, 2022 10:25:39 GMT -5
Think about it.
If the NCAA goes back to the "sit-out-a-year" rule, all it takes is one disgruntled player, perhaps with the encouragement of the coach, to sue the NCAA and ask a very reasonable question in the lawsuit: "why do I have to sit out a year?" Then the NCAA defense is "because we said so." It sure isn't to "protect" the athlete. From what?
What judge or jury would side with the NCAA especially since they allowed it provisionally?
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Post by hc6774 on Jul 6, 2022 11:51:00 GMT -5
with the development of super conferences & the revenues that they will generate, how much longer will NCAA rules be relevant?
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Post by timholycross on Jul 6, 2022 12:28:05 GMT -5
with the development of super conferences & the revenues that they will generate, how much longer will NCAA rules be relevant? Once the big time programs and the NCAA have a parting of the ways, the transfer portal in football will be augmented by the trading deadline.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 6, 2022 12:31:07 GMT -5
Will the realignment necessarily generate greater income? Will Texas draw bigger TV audiences as an SEC member than it did in the Big 12?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 6, 2022 15:25:54 GMT -5
The portal balances interests and should settle down to a workable arrangement after a while. It's being abused now but the ills of it will become apparent. Initially most players have focused on the benefits. When the horror stories come to light, students and schools will measure twice and cut once. My impression after hearing KH discuss this twice, once after returning from a meeting of PL ADs, is that changes are coming, and the Wild Wild West atmosphere will be tamed.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 6, 2022 15:30:51 GMT -5
Pak, I hope you are right about that.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 6, 2022 17:27:04 GMT -5
I got the same impression from my discussion with him. But that's one man's opinion and let's see what other non-power ADs feel.
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