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Post by WorcesterGray on Aug 11, 2022 17:39:17 GMT -5
Da'Jion Humphrey has committed to Garden City Community College in Kansas.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 16, 2022 15:00:14 GMT -5
The transfer portal by the numbers
Right now, 43 percent of players that entered the transfer portal still have not found a new school. Freshman: 47 percent Sophomores: 43 percent Juniors: 41 percent Grad transfers: 24 percent The 2022-23 college basketball season officially begins in 86 days.
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Post by timholycross on Aug 16, 2022 15:25:39 GMT -5
What percent of the percentages end up in D2, D3 or Juco/CC's? The latter category is hardly ever what the athlete had in mind. The other two may be.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 16, 2022 20:05:39 GMT -5
What percent of the percentages end up in D2, D3 or Juco/CC's? The latter category is hardly ever what the athlete had in mind. The other two may be. One thing to remember is that a number of the players who put their names in the portal don’t really have an expectation of ending up with a scholarship spot at any level. For example, Bucknell had a walk-on a few years ago who graduated and then put his name into the portal. He really had no expectation of finding anything other than another walk-on spot but he figured it couldn’t hurt. Also if you look back at the transfer data compiled by VC, there are a number of players who found a home but it is never recorded on their website. They rely on Twitter and similar Internet sources.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 18, 2022 19:20:10 GMT -5
Da'Jion Humphrey has committed to Garden City Community College in Kansas. He's from Michigan. Paying out of state tuition in Kansas sounds odd so Garden City probably has a good coach who is sympatico with players who will be one and done and will be working on their game to get back to the "show" and not necessarily bleeding whatever the GCCC school colors are. I don't mean that as a criticism of either Bubba or the coach.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 18, 2022 20:05:14 GMT -5
Da'Jion Humphrey has committed to Garden City Community College in Kansas. He's from Michigan. Paying out of state tuition in Kansas sounds odd so Garden City probably has a good coach who is sympatico with players who will be one and done and will be working on their game to get back to the "show" and not necessarily bleeding whatever the GCCC school colors are. I don't mean that as a criticism of either Bubba or the coach. Why do you think he’s not getting a scholarship?
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 18, 2022 21:57:34 GMT -5
He's from Michigan. Paying out of state tuition in Kansas sounds odd so Garden City probably has a good coach who is sympatico with players who will be one and done and will be working on their game to get back to the "show" and not necessarily bleeding whatever the GCCC school colors are. I don't mean that as a criticism of either Bubba or the coach. Why do you think he’s not getting a scholarship? Because D-3 doesn't give athletic scholarships and I assumed that Community Colleges did not either. I have another assumption that community colleges do not give non-athletic scholarships to out of state students because they exist to serve the local community but I could well be wrong on both.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 18, 2022 22:20:04 GMT -5
I think that junior colleges (are community colleges in the JUCO classification?) , like 4 year schools, also have D1, D2, D3 and one site says D1 and D2 offer athletic scholarships. I can’t imagine Humphrey would attend that school if he had to pay
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 19, 2022 0:38:18 GMT -5
Tyreek Hill and Corey Dillon went to GCCC, so you can get to the pros from there. It's also a community College with dorms that was established in 1919. So not the local commuter school like MA. Community Colleges.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 19, 2022 1:07:02 GMT -5
Why do you think he’s not getting a scholarship? Because D-3 doesn't give athletic scholarships and I assumed that Community Colleges did not either. I have another assumption that community colleges do not give non-athletic scholarships to out of state students because they exist to serve the local community but I could well be wrong on both. Almost all community colleges that are known for basketball give numerous athletic scholarships.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 19, 2022 6:23:27 GMT -5
Because D-3 doesn't give athletic scholarships and I assumed that Community Colleges did not either. I have another assumption that community colleges do not give non-athletic scholarships to out of state students because they exist to serve the local community but I could well be wrong on both. Almost all community colleges that are known for basketball give numerous athletic scholarships. Thanks. My understanding of the mission of community colleges is expanded. That curiously leaves D-3 on an island with schools able to offer athletic scholarships above and below them.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 20, 2022 1:19:35 GMT -5
What six programs have not added a player via the transfer portal?
As of now, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan State, UCLA, USC, and Villanova are the only six programs that have not added any players from the transfer portal for the 2022-23 season. Last year there were only four programs, Purdue, Stanford, UConn, and Villanova. Tobias Bass
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Post by HC92 on Aug 20, 2022 6:33:30 GMT -5
Amazing that there is only one team in the nation that has not added a transfer in the last two years.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 20, 2022 6:36:26 GMT -5
I believe that Nova has lost only one to the portal, and he played little.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 20, 2022 7:56:33 GMT -5
What six programs have not added a player via the transfer portal? As of now, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan State, UCLA, USC, and Villanova are the only six programs that have not added any players from the transfer portal for the 2022-23 season. Last year there were only four programs, Purdue, Stanford, UConn, and Villanova. Tobias Bass this presumably only refers to power conferences. There are lots of schools in the Patriot League who have not added a transfer this year. And there were many Patriot League schools who did not add a transfer last year. I presume there are a number of schools in other leagues in this category as well.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 20, 2022 9:12:49 GMT -5
And we know of one PL school that this statement doesn't apply. And likely won't apply next season either for any number of reasons.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 20, 2022 9:25:41 GMT -5
What would the Number of reasons include? It appears we just got one very talented recruit to commit and he liked our coaches and facilities. Think he will change his mind?
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 20, 2022 11:06:30 GMT -5
When the scary stories of non-elite talented players giving up a safe scholarship to enter the portal and ending up out of D-1 start to accumulate and spread, there may be less non elite talented players entering. (Maybe not also)
If there is one thing HC has it's non-elite talented players and they all have to have some smarts to get in to HC. So the portal could become a near non-factor at HC going forward.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 20, 2022 11:06:45 GMT -5
Two reasons for potential transfers next season:
1. A new coach 2. We keep the current coach
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 20, 2022 11:10:03 GMT -5
So you see the two sides of the same coin (coach goes / coach stays) as making it unavoidable?
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 20, 2022 11:23:38 GMT -5
It’s been well established that players have transferred under Nelson - a large number.
It’s also a high probability that should his HC coaching career end after this season that a new coach might have the same perspective that he wants his own players ASAP and will take advantage of the transfer portal. That will be exacerbated if Nelson moves on voluntarily or otherwise and some of his players came to HC , not because of the school but because of Nelson. He leaves - they leave.
So IMHO, the chances that we follow Villanova with no transfers next season are slim and none.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 20, 2022 11:40:36 GMT -5
OK, into hypotheticals. What if the team improves, his players like his (and his assistants) style of coaching and the team record improves with new blood? Would that still be "slim" or "none"?
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 20, 2022 12:57:44 GMT -5
I stand by my initial theory and willing to bet you that next season there will be at least one transfer portal player off the team.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 20, 2022 13:02:51 GMT -5
History has a way of repeating itself, but it would be great if in the next season or two we have stability on the roster
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 20, 2022 13:07:48 GMT -5
I stand by my initial theory and willing to bet you that next season there will be at least one transfer portal player off the team. Fair enough. History certainly indicates that could happen. And, opinions (when labeled as such) have always been welcomed Crossports.
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