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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 12, 2022 15:23:40 GMT -5
I was able to watch the game on ACC Network. Total bloodbath. Is Reppert in ovah his head?
Syracuse finished 2 goals short of their all-time single-game record of 30.
I had a bad feeling when we got blown out by Providence in the opener, a game that's typically very competitive.
Rough day for the PL as Loyola got thumped 20-8 at the hands of the Terps.
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Post by matunuck on Feb 12, 2022 18:49:44 GMT -5
Do we field a full-scholarship team?
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Post by jkh67 on Feb 12, 2022 20:32:11 GMT -5
I was able to watch the game on ACC Network. Total bloodbath. Is Reppert in ovah his head? Syracuse finished 2 goals short of their all-time single-game record of 30. I had a bad feeling when we got blown out by Providence in the opener, a game that's typically very competitive. Rough day for the PL as Loyola got thumped 20-8 at the hands of the Terps. I know that the Orange are one of the titans of the game of lacrosse, but, given this debacle and our general lack of success, I'd have to wonder whether it makes any sense for HC to be spending real dollars on this sport (much as I love lacrosse from many years watching schools like Hopkins, Princeton, and Duke.) Club support, sure, but why spend real money on a sport in which we'll likely never amount to much. And how many real dollars are we putting into it? Those dollars should be dedicated to the College's marquee sports. Yes, football and men's basketball.
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Post by princetoncrusader on Feb 12, 2022 20:43:16 GMT -5
I believe the men's team has 2 scholarships. As part of Marcus' strategic plan, the goal was to grow that to six or eight. Not sure what the plan is with the new regime, but Kit is a former laxman.
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 12, 2022 22:37:18 GMT -5
BU beat Merrimack today 12-10...That was my assignment today!
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Post by matunuck on Feb 12, 2022 22:37:47 GMT -5
2 scholarships and we play in the PL and schedule Syracuse and Michigan?
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 12, 2022 22:38:18 GMT -5
I was able to watch the game on ACC Network. Total bloodbath. Is Reppert in ovah his head? Syracuse finished 2 goals short of their all-time single-game record of 30. I had a bad feeling when we got blown out by Providence in the opener, a game that's typically very competitive. Rough day for the PL as Loyola got thumped 20-8 at the hands of the Terps. PC got throttled by Bryant today (the Bulldogs season opener) 19-7.
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 12, 2022 22:38:56 GMT -5
2 scholarships and we play in the PL and schedule Syracuse and Michigan? You got Loyola in the conference who has won a national title more recently than the Cuse.
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Post by alum on Feb 12, 2022 22:50:23 GMT -5
2 scholarships and we play in the PL and schedule Syracuse and Michigan? You got Loyola in the conference who has won a national title more recently than the Cuse. Loyola was trounced 20-8 by Maryland today.
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Post by matunuck on Feb 12, 2022 23:01:07 GMT -5
2 scholarships and we play in the PL and schedule Syracuse and Michigan? You got Loyola in the conference who has won a national title more recently than the Cuse. Yes, I’m aware.
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 12, 2022 23:23:01 GMT -5
You got Loyola in the conference who has won a national title more recently than the Cuse. Loyola was trounced 20-8 by Maryland today. Loyola has dropped off nationally since joining the PL....same with Syracuse and the ACC.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 13, 2022 11:34:51 GMT -5
Loyola was trounced 20-8 by Maryland today. Loyola has dropped off nationally since joining the PL....same with Syracuse and the ACC. That's nonsense. Loyola has been better in the PL than they were in the decade before joining. They had one aberrational year (2012) prior to joining, but generally were not terribly strong. Massey rankings for Loyola: 2004 - 26 2005 - 25 2006 - 16 2007 - 15 2008 - 15 2009 - 10 2010 - 12 2011 - 21 2012 - 1 2013 - 11 (average rank of 15.2 in decade before joining PL) - - - - - - - - 2014 - 4 (first year in Patriot League) 2015 - 23 2016 - 5 2017 - 11 2018 - 5 2019 - 7 2020 - 14 2021 - 11 (average rank of 10.0 since joining PL)
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 13, 2022 12:34:55 GMT -5
I was able to watch the game on ACC Network. Total bloodbath. Is Reppert in ovah his head? Syracuse finished 2 goals short of their all-time single-game record of 30. I had a bad feeling when we got blown out by Providence in the opener, a game that's typically very competitive. Rough day for the PL as Loyola got thumped 20-8 at the hands of the Terps. I know that the Orange are one of the titans of the game of lacrosse, but, given this debacle and our general lack of success, I'd have to wonder whether it makes any sense for HC to be spending real dollars on this sport (much as I love lacrosse from many years watching schools like Hopkins, Princeton, and Duke.) Club support, sure, but why spend real money on a sport in which we'll likely never amount to much. And how many real dollars are we putting into it? Those dollars should be dedicated to the College's marquee sports. Yes, football and men's basketball. Dropping a sport is not as simple as dropping your landline phone that is no longer really needed. It's like taking out a billboard announcing the school is retreating, going the wrong way, not stable, offering less for it's $75,000 sticker price, etc. Then comes all the articles and clicks about the outraged Holy Cross Lacrosse community trashing the school. Then the long drawn out process of the Holy Cross Administration and Trustees being lobbied, wavering and then caving to reinstate Lacrosse teams that are even a bigger laughing stock competitively after having been gutted by the good players transferring out. And the women's coach is named Belichick. If a Belichick gets dumped in New England that story takes on a life of it's own. And who is going to side with Holy Cross over the daughter of the G.O.A.T. who gave New Englanders twenty years of pride and joy with the Patriots dynasty?
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 13, 2022 13:11:14 GMT -5
Loyola has dropped off nationally since joining the PL....same with Syracuse and the ACC. That's nonsense. Loyola has been better in the PL than they were in the decade before joining. They had one aberrational year (2012) prior to joining, but generally were not terribly strong. Massey rankings for Loyola: 2004 - 26 2005 - 25 2006 - 16 2007 - 15 2008 - 15 2009 - 10 2010 - 12 2011 - 21 2012 - 1 2013 - 11 (average rank of 15.2 in decade before joining PL) - - - - - - - - 2014 - 4 (first year in Patriot League) 2015 - 23 2016 - 5 2017 - 11 2018 - 5 2019 - 7 2020 - 14 2021 - 11 (average rank of 10.0 since joining PL) From 1990-2000 they made the NCAA Tourney in eight out of 10 seasons as an independent. During Dave Cottle's run they had a .721 winning percentage. But they aren't as relevant now as both Syracuse and Loyola were when they were independents.
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Post by WheelerOnly on Feb 13, 2022 15:46:02 GMT -5
1. College lacrosse is a totally different world now than it was in 1990-2000. Loyola was a hair away from beating Duke last year to advance to the final four. Syracuse is poised to come roaring back in the next few years. 2. HC is not dropping lacrosse or moving it to D3. HC has improved significantly in the past 10 years and has been a competitive, middle-of-the-pack, team in the PL that has been trending in the right direction. 3. HC is planning, as far as I’ve heard, to increase support for lacrosse. HC currently spends the least or 2nd least in the PL … yet the team has been competitive. 4. Yesterday’s game was an absolute, complete, total disaster. Reppert and his staff and all of the players should be embarrassed. Seriously. They did not look like they belonged on the same field as Syracuse. 5. The defense is a catastrophe. The coaches and players need to change things up in a hurry. They were pressing way out on Syracuse (plenty of times outside the restraining box … once as far out as the 45 yd line) and consistently getting beaten. Oftentimes there were defenders drifting around who appeared to have no idea where their assignment was … and not even noticing that they weren’t guarding anyone. Slides were late. A few times two guys slid to the same place. Sometimes two guys were chasing a Cuse player BEHIND THE CAGE but not even applying a serious double. All of this led to Syracuse players being wide open to fire middles at the goal. It’s like the HC defense had never played together, had no coaching, and all spoke different languages … so couldn’t communicate. This persisted the whole game … no obvious adjustments made. WTF? 6. This is fixable. If they don’t fix it, they may well not win a game this season. 7. I definitely do not think Reppert is in over his head. The guy clearly knows lacrosse. But these first two games show that serious work needs to be done.
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Post by lou on Feb 13, 2022 15:52:45 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't know their assignments, it was Feb 12
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Post by bison137 on Feb 13, 2022 15:56:03 GMT -5
That's nonsense. Loyola has been better in the PL than they were in the decade before joining. They had one aberrational year (2012) prior to joining, but generally were not terribly strong. Massey rankings for Loyola: 2004 - 26 2005 - 25 2006 - 16 2007 - 15 2008 - 15 2009 - 10 2010 - 12 2011 - 21 2012 - 1 2013 - 11 (average rank of 15.2 in decade before joining PL) - - - - - - - - 2014 - 4 (first year in Patriot League) 2015 - 23 2016 - 5 2017 - 11 2018 - 5 2019 - 7 2020 - 14 2021 - 11 (average rank of 10.0 since joining PL) From 1990-2000 they made the NCAA Tourney in eight out of 10 seasons as an independent. During Dave Cottle's run they had a .721 winning percentage. But they aren't as relevant now as both Syracuse and Loyola were when they were independents. Interesting that after claiming (falsely) that "Loyola has dropped off nationally since joining the PL", you have to go back to the 1990's to find a time when they were at least as good as they have been in the PL. But they were worse from 2002 through 2013 (the last season before they joined the PL.) I assume you are now acknowledging that your original claim was not correct.
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 14, 2022 16:24:04 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 15, 2022 20:30:17 GMT -5
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Post by crusadernutjob on Feb 17, 2022 18:07:11 GMT -5
Seems as if Reppert has lost control.
Hindsight is 20/20 but he really is the definition of a resume hire. The talent level on this team is far higher than what they are producing and that falls squarely on coaching. It appears Reppert got in with the right guys and rode a good program to the top at Maryland. Running a program is far different. People need to understand that lacrosse is a flow sport like hockey, there are no set plays so what does an offensive coordinator REALLY get you. How often do teams get “out schemes” in college lacrosse, do they have better man up plays or defensive sets ? No, it’s really all about building culture, developing players holistically and instilling belief. Doing more with less.
Not saying his resume isn’t impressive, but being able to recruit and BUILD a locker room is far more important. It is obvious that he is ill equipped to build any such culture as this program has regressed. Hopefully Kit realizes he should go with a D3 coach next time around that has demonstrated he can ELEVATE a program.
Holy Cross lacrosse has a lot of potential and can be a competitive team as they were under Peter Burke. The talk of canning the program is nonsense, clearly it is a large and lucrative alumni group with a 45 man roster.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 19, 2022 7:55:07 GMT -5
You know much more about lax than I ever will, but 2 games against teams traditionally much stronger than HC seems a little premature for this scathing indictment.
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 19, 2022 8:55:00 GMT -5
High temp in Ann Arbor today is 20 degrees - maybe we’ll improve playing outdoors for the first time
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 19, 2022 14:22:10 GMT -5
Can you get shutout in Lax ? maybe we'll see it today 3rd period score 12-zip UM - shots on goal 23-3 This is looking really scary for this team - what's the story ?
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Post by newfieguy74 on Feb 19, 2022 14:37:25 GMT -5
I've never seen the point of putting a team in the position of being humiliated (e.g, these lacrosse games, HC-UConn women's hoop). I hate it.
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Post by crusader99 on Feb 19, 2022 15:37:24 GMT -5
This will be a difficult year. This will be the 3rd coach since 2017. With the recruiting calendar set for most high school juniors and minimal help with transfers, it will take time for Coach R to bring in his guys. The team competes at the highest level of the sport, with the Pl fielding 5 nationally ranked teams, who are fully funded programs. Bottom line, at least to me, is that the team needs more scholarship money.
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