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Post by purplehaze on Dec 1, 2022 17:37:16 GMT -5
Unless we get a nice check from the Cuse, why are we subjecting our kids to the kind of shellacking we receive vs them ? Our OOC schedule should have more MAAC schools which is a lower level than the PL
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 1, 2022 18:50:25 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 1, 2022 18:51:17 GMT -5
Unless we get a nice check from the Cuse, why are we subjecting our kids to the kind of shellacking we receive vs them ? Our OOC schedule should have more MAAC schools which is a lower level than the PL I know America East member Vermont doesn't have Holy Cross scheduled this spring...
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Post by bison137 on Dec 2, 2022 0:10:59 GMT -5
For what it’s worth, the high temperature in Providence that day was 23° and the low was 9°. So figure it was probably high teens at the start of the game.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 2, 2022 0:17:04 GMT -5
Unless we get a nice check from the Cuse, why are we subjecting our kids to the kind of shellacking we receive vs them ? Our OOC schedule should have more MAAC schools which is a lower level than the PL There can’t be much of a check because Syracuse will draw about 2400 for this game, with the season ticket holders paying $10 each and students getting in for free.
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Post by JRGNYR on Dec 2, 2022 16:20:13 GMT -5
Unless we get a nice check from the Cuse, why are we subjecting our kids to the kind of shellacking we receive vs them ? Our OOC schedule should have more MAAC schools which is a lower level than the PL Non-con scheduling in men's lacrosse has become especially cumbersome the last few years across D1 - realignment has added to the heartburn surrounding it. The PL schools have more limited options given the last 9 weekends are committed to conference play. You have to find opponents who are a) available and b) interested. Unless both line up, you run the risk of not finding an opponent. With the MAAC expanding now to 10 teams when they absorbed three affiliates from the NEC, their conference schedule is even longer than the PL's but it looks like they're doing 7 Saturdays and two midweeks to get 9 games in, which keeps 4 or 5 Saturdays available at the start of the season for non-cons. If given the option of either playing an ACC team or not playing at all, teams will take playing an ACC team 100 out of 100 times.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 6, 2022 14:07:28 GMT -5
Schedule just posted on our site - usual tough regional slate along with a trip to Georgia thrown in there on a Saturday in Feb to play Mercer
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 6, 2022 15:48:44 GMT -5
Schedule just posted on our site - usual tough regional slate along with a trip to Georgia thrown in there on a Saturday in Feb to play Mercer One NCAA Tournament team on the entire schedule (BU)...I would not call that a tough slate at all.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 6, 2022 15:54:24 GMT -5
Have you followed our program in recent years ? - and most 'experts' like yourself consider the PL a pretty strong league As I mentioned elsewhere I'd prefer we schedule more MAAC schools if possible to get a game or two where we're actually a favorite
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 6, 2022 15:56:33 GMT -5
Have you followed our program in recent years ? - and most 'experts' like yourself consider the PL a pretty strong league As I mentioned elsewhere I'd prefer we schedule more MAAC schools if possible to get a game or two where we're actually a favorite A team that went 4-10 beat Holy Cross 28-5. I don't consider a one bid league a strong league but go on....
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 12, 2022 16:29:18 GMT -5
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 12, 2022 16:45:59 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 12, 2022 17:08:02 GMT -5
No it doesn't....I don't see Holy Cross having three nationally televised games including a HOME game.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 12, 2022 17:22:11 GMT -5
Got it. So the purpose of the post was to highlight HC not having any games on CBS Sports Network (basically on the same level or below ESPN+), rather than pointing out BU having three games on this network.
Thank you for your transparency.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 12, 2022 17:32:49 GMT -5
Got it. So the purpose of the post was to highlight HC not having any games on CBS Sports Network (basically on the same level or below ESPN+), rather than pointing out BU having three games on this network. Thank you for your transparency. Highlight the difference in having a program that has the support of the school and not on their fourth coach since BU started their program.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 12, 2022 18:15:59 GMT -5
Got it. So the purpose of the post was to highlight HC not having any games on CBS Sports Network (basically on the same level or below ESPN+), rather than pointing out BU having three games on this network. Thank you for your transparency. Highlight the difference in having a program that has the support of the school and not on their fourth coach since BU started their program. Highlight the difference between having a massive enrollment and no football, allowing 12.6 lacrosse scholarships - as opposed to being a small school with football, and only a few lax scholarships.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 12, 2022 21:39:43 GMT -5
Highlight the difference in having a program that has the support of the school and not on their fourth coach since BU started their program. Highlight the difference between having a massive enrollment and no football, allowing 12.6 lacrosse scholarships - as opposed to being a small school with football, and only a few lax scholarships. Well Colgate has been more relevant in lacrosse than HC...including a national player of the year in the last ten years.
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Post by crusader99 on Dec 12, 2022 23:04:44 GMT -5
Colgate and HC mens lax are on the same level with practically identical records since 2018 (Colgate 18-39 and HC 18-36). Head to head, HC is 4-2 against the Raiders going back to 2016 (no game in 20 due to Covid). Just the facts.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 12, 2022 23:50:19 GMT -5
Colgate and HC mens lax are on the same level with practically identical records since 2018 (Colgate 18-39 and HC 18-36). Head to head, HC is 4-2 against the Raiders going back to 2016 (no game in 20 due to Covid). Just the facts. NCAA Tournaments Colgate 2008, 2012, 2015 Holy Cross N/A Holy Cross had a player in 2020 get named Honorable Mention All-American for the first time since 1964. They have NEVER had a player named to any of the All-American teams. Just the facts.
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Post by crusader99 on Dec 12, 2022 23:58:17 GMT -5
Your point was they are more relevant, which I understood the usage to be present tense not historical. They are not currently more relevant in the PL or NCAA, which was my response. They are on the same level. We have had more recent success despite the turnover in the ADs office, the changing of staff and the lack of competitive funding. I agree with some of your prior posts. The field facility is well below standards (porta johns in February, old worn out turf, and bleachers not suitable for some high school/club level games). But it’s simply a stretch to create a narrative to go back as far as you have — which includes the time period before the B10 started to sponsor men’s lacrosse in 2015.
Cheers.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 13, 2022 0:01:50 GMT -5
Your point was they are more relevant, which I understood the usage to be present tense not historical. They are not currently more relevant in the PL or NCAA. It’s a stretch to create a narrative to go back as far as you have — which includes the time period before the B10 started to sponsor men’s lacrosse in 2015. Cheers. I said the last ten years...Colgate had a national player of the year. I would know since I was hired to watch him play and do a feature on him. You know how many times in ten plus years covering lacrosse I was ever told to cover HC? A grand total of zero because they were that irrelevant and still are... Colgate is 2-0 in the last two matchups against Holy Cross BTW.
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Post by crusader99 on Dec 13, 2022 0:08:56 GMT -5
I have had 2 children play lax at the College; including one on the 2019 men’s team that went 7-7, 4-4 and reached the PL tournament with a top 5/6 nationally ranked defense. I can say with knowledge that not a single graduate from that class was on a athletic scholarship (perhaps other aid). All graduated and are still friends, supporters of the school and on their way to fulfilling lives. The HC mens lax team was an integral component of their HC experience. They maybe irrelevant to you, but not to the families, other students and participants that were involved.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 13, 2022 0:13:07 GMT -5
I have had 2 children play lax at the College; including one on the 2019 men’s team that went 7-7, 4-4 and reached the PL tournament with a top 5/6 nationally ranked defense. I can say with knowledge that not a single graduate from that class was on a athletic scholarship (perhaps other aid). All graduated and are still friends, supporters of the school and on their way to fulfilling lives. The HC mens lax team was an integral component of their HC experience. They maybe irrelevant to you, but not to the families, other students and participants that were involved. Maybe it is time to support the program to make them relevant...much more likely to win a national title in that sport over hoops, hockey, etc. Also, Holy Cross finished 70th in the country last year in RPI and Colgate finished 46th. There was only 73 teams in the country last year.
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Post by crusader99 on Dec 13, 2022 0:19:55 GMT -5
The 2021 game was in OT during a snow storm that the boys traveled from HC to Colgate on a 8 hour bus ride and then played the game b/c no over night stays were allowed post COVID lockdowns. The 2022 game was also tight at 14-12, which as you may know is like losing on the last possession or two in hoops.
one last point, if I had the energy, which I now do not, I could compare the alumni giving for all teams across all sports. The irrelevant mens lax team is in the top 2 or 3 in both dollars contributions and number of donors to the school consistently over the last 5-7 years. Look at the support for the current head coach, who is a terrific person, a leader of men and who will be successful at the school. These are positives that should be highlighted.
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Post by crusader99 on Dec 13, 2022 0:23:47 GMT -5
The pathway to a national title is much more achievable in men’s lax then men’s hoops or hockey. The PL is a top 4 league and always has at least 2 schools nationally ranked each year. The funding priorities at the school are beyond my knowledge but can also say from the withdrawals from our checking account that we and many others support the team. Hope you do as well.
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