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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 26, 2022 22:04:21 GMT -5
You have to feel sorry for Coach Nelson being in so far over his head, having no idea what to do other than pray that we’ll get every lucky break available in order to win a game. This is just so tragically sad for everyone associated with HC. He needs to go now
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Post by notjuanjones on Jan 26, 2022 22:06:53 GMT -5
Legit non-snark question from someone who hasn't watched y'all this year. I was shocked that they have Gates shooting so much more from the perimeter this season. I thought he was a legit problem as a post guy last year. Certainly is in great shape and maybe they asked him to lose weight and diversify his game, but I (AU fan, obviously) was fine with him squaring up and shooting baseline/elbow jumpers, rather than bulling inside and drawing fouls. Having said that, I thought Josh Alexander may have played his best game in four years for us tonight.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 26, 2022 22:08:14 GMT -5
Kit can make a big statement to alums and supporters (and former supporters) of the program by making the move that needs to be made at season’s end.
We all know a big part of the JD for an AD is fundraising. Would seem to me that by firing Nelson, he is making a statement that he’s committed to getting this basketball program back on track. Hopefully that would help him when he’s going after prospective donors.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 26, 2022 22:22:45 GMT -5
Yep.
Hard to put the collection basket for sports in front of folks when the MBB team is among the very worst in the country, and the coach isn't even willing to speak to the handful of remaining paying fans.
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 26, 2022 22:22:47 GMT -5
He may have to solicit $ from donors ‘before’ he relieves Nelson of his duties - the money to pay off BN might not come from the entirely from the school
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Post by efg72 on Jan 26, 2022 22:26:47 GMT -5
If the school doesn’t pony up it tells the world the Administration is unwilling to move forward, and they continue to accept the current state of play
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 26, 2022 22:28:31 GMT -5
You have to feel sorry for Coach Nelson being in so far over his head, having no idea what to do other than pray that we’ll get every lucky break available in order to win a game. This is just so tragically sad for everyone associated with HC. He needs to go now If he gave a eff about supporters of the program, I might feel the same. But he doesn't, so why should any of us feel sorry for him.
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Post by hceconhist on Jan 26, 2022 22:34:04 GMT -5
He may have to solicit $ from donors ‘before’ he relieves Nelson of his duties - the money to pay off BN might not come from the entirely from the school You may see a couple of more guarantee games in the next couple of years...
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 26, 2022 22:54:32 GMT -5
Oh, for the record, there was a technical foul (announcers seemed to miss that) on the "Team" which I assume was on Nelson.
According to the box score, Gates got a lay-up in the paint at 2:47 making the score 61-49. The T was called and Beckton hit 2 foul shots making it 63-49. They got possession and then got another basket, 65-49. Game pretty much over by then.
Guess we would have lost this game if Lewis got into the game. Oh, wait . . . . Not sure why you recruit a kid if you're never going to put him in even when the game is totally lost. Think he might be able to match these shooting numbers?
Rabs: 0 for 2 Dorsey: 0 for 1 Louth: 1 for 3 Humphrey: 1 for 4 Martindale: 1 for 5 Townsel: 1 for 4 Luc: 3 for 10
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Post by notjuanjones on Jan 26, 2022 23:04:16 GMT -5
The tech was announced on Nelson at the game.
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Post by lou on Jan 26, 2022 23:16:28 GMT -5
The announcers didn't miss it, they just didn't know if it was on Gates or Nelson since the ref pointed to Gates and Nelson who was behind him
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Post by HC92 on Jan 26, 2022 23:16:34 GMT -5
Really hard to watch. My wife suggested I not watch anymore after walking in with about a minute left in the game. I fear she may be right.
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Post by Crosser on Jan 26, 2022 23:28:25 GMT -5
I only started watching at around the under 8 TO and then got distracted after about 3 or 4 minutes until the game was over. My plan was to watch the game from the beginning on replay; but then thought I’d read this thread first - so, yeah I’m watching the local news instead.😐
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Post by Xmassader on Jan 27, 2022 0:00:36 GMT -5
ky And everyone knows that AU runs the Princeton offense. One would think that our defensive preparation would have focused on that but apparently not. No Lewis…even for a minute. No double down in the post in the first half when AU’s center scored 3 straight hoops. No defensive change ups during the entire game. 11-55 (.200)/9-54 (.167). Worst margin of defeat in HC history. Most losses in one season (by a margin of 6). Does anyone honestly believe that HCBN can turn it around? If so, please explain. Notice that I did not ask whether the program can be turned around but rather whether the current coach can do it Not sure how you're calculating winning % but they're not this. They are .166 and .142 ACTP Late night math🙂. Made the correction
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Post by timholycross on Jan 27, 2022 0:22:12 GMT -5
Thank God we're not playing Coulibaly or Lewis--they could cost us the game What do you need to see from the former to know he can't play, at least in 2021-2? The latter I agree with; what the heck, give him some minutes. And the other big guy is worse than Louth-M.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 27, 2022 5:56:14 GMT -5
We aren’t good, but we also didn’t care to show up tonight. What an embarrassment from Nelson all the way down. You watching tonight, Kit? Kit was actually at the game. As was new AD Nate Pine for the March 2014 debacle at AU. Course it was another year before he made the change, but that program was far more stable than this one is right now.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 27, 2022 5:58:24 GMT -5
No one let their feelings for the Hart ruin their enjoyment of that game! I can't even see the wooden bleachers!
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 27, 2022 6:04:25 GMT -5
Legit non-snark question from someone who hasn't watched y'all this year. I was shocked that they have Gates shooting so much more from the perimeter this season. I thought he was a legit problem as a post guy last year. Certainly is in great shape and maybe they asked him to lose weight and diversify his game, but I (AU fan, obviously) was fine with him squaring up and shooting baseline/elbow jumpers, rather than bulling inside and drawing fouls. Having said that, I thought Josh Alexander may have played his best game in four years for us tonight. I think there probably was a plan for him to get lighter and a little bit more away from the basket, njj, but he did show signs of being able to do that last year. I give your bigs credit - I thought it was harder for GG to score on them than with Bucknell's Screen/Timmerman defending him (and Neal Quinn of LC too). With them he exposed their slower feet, but not so much last night (although 18 and 13 is nothing to sneeze at). Alexander really seems to have improved. At this point GG is the only guy I trust shooting facing the basket.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 27, 2022 6:18:07 GMT -5
Thank God we're not playing Coulibaly or Lewis--they could cost us the game What do you need to see from the former to know he can't play, at least in 2021-2? The latter I agree with; what the heck, give him some minutes. And the other big guy is worse than Louth-M. Disagree on Louth. At Harvard he had 7 points and 10 rebounds in 29 minutes. His minutes since then: 17 23 11 13 0 8 He was already behind the eight ball development wise after last year, and the coach isn't helping now. Pretty sure he had another goose egg or two, but too lazy to look right now. Why they don't try to use the a real press (that caused a quick turnover last night) to try to speed up the game is beyond me. Maybe some sideline traps over halfcourt? I thought that kind of stuff was part of "Attack"
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Post by timholycross on Jan 27, 2022 7:07:42 GMT -5
What do you need to see from the former to know he can't play, at least in 2021-2? The latter I agree with; what the heck, give him some minutes. And the other big guy is worse than Louth-M. Disagree on Louth. At Harvard he had 7 points and 10 rebounds in 29 minutes. His minutes since then: 17 23 11 13 0 8 He was already behind the eight ball development wise after last year, and the coach isn't helping now. Pretty sure he had another goose egg or two, but too lazy to look right now. Why they don't try to use the a real press (that caused a quick turnover last night) to try to speed up the game is beyond me. Maybe some sideline traps over halfcourt? I thought that kind of stuff was part of "Attack" I would agree that playing the other big guy any minute that Louth could have played instead is a head-scratcher. And, last night, from a physical standpoint, that felt like playing BC in football. Got manhandled early and often. Kenney was decent but in no way shape or form big enough to take their pounding. Louth would have helped, but did he do anything while he was in there? Has he looked like a player other than in that game? I'll exclude Bucknell because that benching seemed to have nothing to do w/basketball (still ill, perhaps; some bs off-the-court reason, who knows). I "loved" Patsos' preparedness, which apparently consisted of looking at the Dorsey's grand total of points for all other games he's played. And after last night, it's still 10 more.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 27, 2022 7:47:49 GMT -5
For the record, I have never seen so many posts by NAD on one subject so quickly.!😳
And, as usual, his thoughts are spot on.
Nelson, Kit, take notice. This is NOT a good sign!
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jan 27, 2022 8:39:38 GMT -5
Really hard to watch. My wife suggested I not watch anymore after walking in with about a minute left in the game. I fear she may be right. I wish the team well, but I've pretty much stopped watching. It's hard to see them winning another game this year (and beyond?). I said at the beginning of the year that they were doomed unless they got decent play from their bigs. Well, their bigs can't play. But that is far from the only problem. Kit, please find the team a new coach. Otherwise we're looking at the same disaster again next year. BN was a great player and may be a great guy, but he can't coach.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 27, 2022 8:41:28 GMT -5
The last 4 minutes of the game just looked different to me (in terms of body language/movements/energy) ....and not in a good way.
I don't particularly like sitting behind a keyboard being critical of everything, but dang it, the coach brings this on himself by not communicating with us.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 27, 2022 8:45:39 GMT -5
Was it ever mentioned exactly what type of injury GG had prior to the start of the season? I'm wondering if it was some type of hip problem; at the Harvard game he seemed to have a similar issue. Thank God he was able to get back in - they may have not have gotten to 30 (not that it matters at this point).
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Post by hcpride on Jan 27, 2022 8:49:26 GMT -5
Really hard to watch. My wife suggested I not watch anymore after walking in with about a minute left in the game. I fear she may be right. I wish the team well, but I've pretty much stopped watching. It's hard to see them winning another game this year (and beyond?). I said at the beginning of the year that they were doomed unless they got decent play from their bigs. Well, their bigs can't play. But that is far from the only problem. Kit, please find the team a new coach. Otherwise we're looking at the same disaster again next year. BN was a great player and may be a great guy, but he can't coach. There’s a reason why many mid-majors (including PL teams) look outside the US for bigs. American, for example, has at least 2 on their roster last night. Loyola has 4. We might want to consider it (maybe we are - and just not landing any).
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