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Post by rgs318 on Jan 30, 2022 8:40:56 GMT -5
Massey has HC as a 4 point favorite (57-53) with a 63% chance for the win. Here's hoping that the time until this game (Thursday, 2/3) allows our injured players to heal.
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Post by HC13 on Jan 30, 2022 10:07:28 GMT -5
Lafayette is battling a number of injuries themselves, they only had 8 players available for yesterday's game vs Army which they lost 50-46 on some debatable calls the last 2 mins of so of the game
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 30, 2022 12:33:00 GMT -5
The refs T’d up the Laf coach (or bench) with 5 seconds left and the score tied 46-46. I hope there was a very good reason
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Post by HC13 on Jan 30, 2022 12:45:59 GMT -5
I think what happen was LU got called for an offensive foul on a drive to the basket (I didn't think it was) LU asked for a review, which the lost & got a technical for apparently not having a time out to lose. I guess if you ask for a review, need to have a t/o to give up if you lose the review, at least that how the announcers explained it (but they were fairly confused over the call as well).
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 30, 2022 12:59:16 GMT -5
Maybe it was necessitated by covid postponements but that was a M & W dh at Army with the 'Pards losing close ones - I believe the league should try and give teams the option of scheduling dh's in the future -anything to get a few more fannies in the seats
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Post by bigfan on Jan 30, 2022 13:21:12 GMT -5
In the past there were dh's until the women asked that their games be separate.
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Post by bison137 on Jan 30, 2022 14:18:33 GMT -5
In the past there were dh's until the women asked that their games be separate. Pretty sure that is not correct. It was the male coaches who wanted to separate the games. Most of the women’s coaches wanted to continue having doubleheaders.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 30, 2022 14:28:14 GMT -5
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Post by HC13 on Jan 30, 2022 15:21:19 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 30, 2022 16:02:42 GMT -5
I assume Lafayette, the home team compiles the box score. The box score should be corrected for accuracy but I don't know what entity is responsible for policing accuracy in official box scores. Definitely unfortunate timing for an administrative Technical.
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Jan 30, 2022 16:22:02 GMT -5
Neither team PR group wants to put the ending in their release I am sure. I believe out of respect for the Lafayette coaching staff. The Lafayette coaches called for an appeal of the charge/block call or, more accurately, the location of it with regard to the arc. It was not close in any regard. You need a time-out in hand in case you lose. If the officials correct it, no time out is required. If the appeal fails, the penalty is a time-out used. Lafayette had none and thus was awarded a technical foul. A mistake by the Lafayette coaches. Mistakes happen. But that was a big one.
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Post by bison137 on Jan 30, 2022 16:23:55 GMT -5
I assume Lafayette, the home team compiles the box score. The box score should be corrected for accuracy. Army was the home team.
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Jan 30, 2022 16:26:14 GMT -5
It was a Chris Webber moment for those coaches.
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Post by bison137 on Jan 30, 2022 16:35:05 GMT -5
I think what happen was LU got called for an offensive foul on a drive to the basket (I didn't think it was) LU asked for a review, which the lost & got a technical for apparently not having a time out to lose. I guess if you ask for a review, need to have a t/o to give up if you lose the review, at least that how the announcers explained it (but they were fairly confused over the call as well). That is largely correct. However the only thing that could be challenged under the rules was whether the army defender was in the restricted arc under the basket when she drew the charge. She clearly was not, so it was a stupid challenge by Lafayette. And you are correct that they were assessed a technical foul because they didn’t have a timeout to use for the challenge. I have no clue why she did it because it was a clear no win situation. Note that Lafayette, under the rules, could not challenge whether the offensive foul call was correct, other than whether the defender was in the restricted area.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 30, 2022 16:44:44 GMT -5
I assume Lafayette, the home team compiles the box score. The box score should be corrected for accuracy. Army was the home team. The box score lists the site as Easton, PA. Unlikely, but that could be wrong also.
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Jan 30, 2022 16:48:59 GMT -5
The box score lists the site as Easton, PA. Unlikely, but that could be wrong also. It was indeed at West Point. Long bus ride home for the Leopards.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 30, 2022 17:18:44 GMT -5
A nice aspect of the PL is this is an example of human error a coach can move past with minimal trauma compared to higher profile leagues.
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Feb 2, 2022 20:39:05 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 2, 2022 22:35:55 GMT -5
Good article. I will leave the location of the imaginary box to the refs. Nice to know we have an apparent coaching advantage in crunch time.
I hope a few days rest helped the Crusaders.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 3, 2022 16:10:18 GMT -5
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Feb 3, 2022 17:04:58 GMT -5
Interesting to learn about the lower defensive box. I know I have been guilty of seeing the sneakers of a help defender on the arc during contact with the ball handler and assuming that it's an automatic block. I guess sometimes when the officials are talking things over, it's because one has the responsibility of seeing the arc and another the responsibility of knowing if a player was inside or outside of the lower defensive box when the player started their move. That's a lot to process in a last second scenario. Looks like the officials did a good job on it. No idea why they would risk an appeal on it. Unless Lafayette mistakenly thought they did have a time out left.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 3, 2022 17:48:37 GMT -5
Fascinating article. Katherine Clifford was a track athlete at HC. I assume Sacred Heart HS is now long gone. Jack McCarthy who played Freshman basketball at HC went to another small Catholic HS in Newton that I presume is also long gone. The writer brought out how gender equality expectations have progressed. The thinking behind six on six basketball must have been that girls shouldn't be running the full length of the court, that it wasn't lady like or something.
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Post by HC13 on Feb 3, 2022 18:05:01 GMT -5
I believe the reference is to Newton Country Day School of the Sacred Heart & it is still with us & prospering. Located next to BC Law School which once was the campus of Newton College of the Sacred Heart
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Post by HC13 on Feb 3, 2022 18:12:18 GMT -5
HC 9-8 in an evenly played first 6 mins - AL looks fit, McCormack back
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 3, 2022 18:14:39 GMT -5
I believe the reference is to Newton Country Day School of the Sacred Heart & it is still with us & prospering. Located next to BC Law School which once was the campus of Newton College of the Sacred Heart Good to hear that. BC got a good deal and also bought the Boston Archdiocese Chancery and Pine Manor College in Brookline which failed during the pandemic. UMass bought Mt. Ida. All presumably for pennies on replacement cost. HC builds new at current construction prices, but it's all good.
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