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Post by hchoops on Apr 20, 2022 19:23:50 GMT -5
Some say Grasso was one of the finalists last year. Maybe Fordham goes to Grasso.
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 20, 2022 19:38:12 GMT -5
And I thought the carousel had stopped for this season Really feel badly for the Fordham faithful that had their hope renewed with Neptune Yes, Grasso was the runner up to Neptune
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Post by rf1 on Apr 20, 2022 19:52:10 GMT -5
Did not see Wright retiring and Neptune leaving Fordham this year. Very shocking.
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Post by southernsader on Apr 20, 2022 19:56:29 GMT -5
Deja vu all over again for Fordham - losing coach after one year - as happened when Digger went to Notre Dame.
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Post by Ray on Apr 20, 2022 21:10:12 GMT -5
Did not see Wright retiring and Neptune leaving Fordham this year. Very shocking. Neptune probably didn’t see it either, else he probably would have stayed at Nova last year.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 20, 2022 21:16:40 GMT -5
Probably was easier for Nova to give the job to Neptune after his turn around at Fordham.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 21, 2022 6:30:42 GMT -5
This is the kind of situation that makes the notion that the transfer portal will magically go away a pipe dream.
Why should any young man who signed up for the Fordham rebuilding project (which was a stretch to assume it would succeed given how long they've been bad) be bound to Rose Hill (or have to sit out a year) when the leadership that brought them there takes off after one season?
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Post by trimster on Apr 21, 2022 6:51:00 GMT -5
Some say Grasso was one of the finalists last year. Maybe Fordham goes to Grasso. If they do it will be interesting to see how many of the seven transfers Grasso has brought to Bryant in the last month, stick with their choice. In today’s environment, my guess is zero.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Apr 21, 2022 7:06:23 GMT -5
Potential domino effect over the next week or so might make our heads spin.
Woke up reading this thinking for sure it was a joke.
Have some sympathy for Fordham, but thanks to Whittenburg, it's limited.
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Post by trimster on Apr 21, 2022 7:18:59 GMT -5
I do feel bad for the Fordham faithful. It appears they find a guy to lead them out of the basketball wasteland they have been in and poof, he is gone. The ink had barely dried on the announcement he is a finalist for the Joe B. Hall Award as the top first year coach in college basketball.
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Post by mm67 on Apr 21, 2022 10:21:50 GMT -5
Deja vu all over again for Fordham - losing coach after one year - as happened when Digger went to Notre Dame. Big difference with Digger... His FU team led by Charlie Y was historic in the annals of FU b-ball. They were great. Fordham was the toast of The City. We had courtside seats, a packed sell out MSG for the Marquette game. The place was rockin'. Amazing! FU excitement and optimism were off the charts. Rams fans had stratospheric hopes for the future. In fact Digger had stated he would be at FU for the long haul. Then ND called and understandably Digger took the ND job. Betrayal. ( I thought of Frank Leahy, ND & HC's George Connor.)Digger said the ND job was his dream job, the one coaching position he couldn't refuse. It was a crushing blow for FU fans. 50+ years into the future and this painful episode resonates. Am I the only one who remembers this?
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Post by hchoops on Apr 21, 2022 11:39:01 GMT -5
No
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Post by timholycross on Apr 21, 2022 11:59:13 GMT -5
Joe Carballeira disliked Hal Wissel, who replaced Digger; and therefore ended up transferring to HC (he had to play JV ball for a year because he wasn't eligible because of the transfer). But what I'm not sure of is whether Digger or Wissel recruited Joe in the first place.
Digger's team was mostly holdovers from the previous coach. In the present era, how many of them would have left before Digger ever got there?
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Post by hc87 on Apr 21, 2022 15:14:17 GMT -5
This resignation by Wright really doesn't speak well for the overall "health" of college hoop today imo.
Unrelated issues to a degree, but this age of the portal, NiL etc is going to drive a stake in the heart (for fan support anyway) for mid-major college basketball.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 21, 2022 16:00:47 GMT -5
I believe that the current state of college hoops is a major reason why he retired.
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Post by bison137 on Apr 21, 2022 16:34:08 GMT -5
I believe that the current state of college hoops is a major reason why he retired. Yes, no question.
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Post by hc87 on Apr 21, 2022 16:40:01 GMT -5
It will be interesting how this all plays out ovah the next decade or so. It seems like we (as in America) are headed for a "re-set" with regards to college athletics at the D1 level anyway. Strength coaches making 800K, head coaches being the highest paid state employee in many states, student-athletes getting thousands and more in NiL $$$, players hop-scotching all ovah the place and on and on it goes.
I realize the $$$ these programs bring in on TV revenue and ticket/donor$ has largely led to this but is this the world schools like the Ivies, PL schools, BC, Duke, Northwestern, Stanford etc etc should really be a part of while purporting to be the finest universities in the country?
By this, I'm not advocating HC go D3 or NESCAC etc.....it just seems like a breaking point is quickly nearing for schools who want to keep athletics somewhat in perspective and schools who want to go whole hog in with this new environment.
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 21, 2022 16:50:11 GMT -5
Since the NCAA is now a toothless organization (I hate to suggest this) but the Congress is going to have to take a look at college athletics - and the IRS should start collecting tax on the scholarships at schools that are providing all of this NIL $
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Post by HC13 on Apr 21, 2022 17:28:48 GMT -5
Since the NCAA is now a toothless organization (I hate to suggest this) but the Congress is going to have to take a look at college athletics - and the IRS should start collecting tax on the scholarships at schools that are providing all of this NIL $ The NIL's are subject to taxation. Generally, the athlete is considered self-employed and should file their own return. I don't know how the school would necessarily be subject to tax as they are making payments somewhat under duress or, in many states under new statutes It's a new area and tax treatment will in flux until all the permeations of the contracts & agreements shake put.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 21, 2022 17:29:03 GMT -5
One problem with this is that it is not really the schools who are providing the NIL
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Post by HC13 on Apr 21, 2022 18:03:08 GMT -5
One problem with this is that it is not really the schools who are providing the NIL I agree, for what I've seen most are 3rd party endorsement deals
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Apr 21, 2022 18:13:47 GMT -5
Any and all NIL $ should go against scholarship $, and if a kid's NIL earning are > the full cost of tuition, then these kids should pay full freight.
Arch Manning hasn't even chosen a school yet and already has deals lined up totaling ~ 2 mil.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 21, 2022 18:21:08 GMT -5
It will be interesting how this all plays out ovah the next decade or so. It seems like we (as in America) are headed for a "re-set" with regards to college athletics at the D1 level anyway. Strength coaches making 800K, head coaches being the highest paid state employee in many states, student-athletes getting thousands and more in NiL $$$, players hop-scotching all ovah the place and on and on it goes. I realize the $$$ these programs bring in on TV revenue and ticket/donor$ has largely led to this but is this the world schools like the Ivies, PL schools, BC, Duke, Northwestern, Stanford etc etc should really be a part of while purporting to be the finest universities in the country? By this, I'm not advocating HC go D3 or NESCAC etc.....it just seems like a breaking point is quickly nearing for schools who want to keep athletics somewhat in perspective and schools who want to go whole hog in with this new environment. BC's leading returning receiver gets to drive a 95K car around campus while he's still a player there.
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Post by HC13 on Apr 21, 2022 19:03:23 GMT -5
Any and all NIL $ should go against scholarship $, and if a kid's NIL earning are > the full cost of tuition, then these kids should pay full freight. Arch Manning hasn't even chosen a school yet and already has deals lined up totaling ~ 2 mil. Just curious, to what end? Who gets the benefit of doing that? Who is the bad actor?
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 21, 2022 19:14:54 GMT -5
Any and all NIL $ should go against scholarship $, and if a kid's NIL earning are > the full cost of tuition, then these kids should pay full freight. Arch Manning hasn't even chosen a school yet and already has deals lined up totaling ~ 2 mil. Just curious, to what end? Who gets the benefit of doing that? Who is the bad actor? Nobody is the bad actor. The NIL regulations were hashed out with input from the various interests involved and are an attempt to be as fair as possible to all the actors. A bad actor would be someone breaking the regulations, not someone in compliance with them. Give these new rules a chance to be followed for a while and then adjust any deficiencies. Arch Manning's school of choice will get more than their tuition's worth.
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