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Post by gerry on Mar 1, 2022 21:56:47 GMT -5
Jared Grasso would be my first call if I am UMass. Matt Langel and John Becker would be logical candidates as well. Curious if any of those guys would have an interest. URI is the better job right now, and it would seem they would be competing with each other for the same candidates. McCall seemed like an odd hire from the start with his entire coaching career in the south after Pat Kelsey left them at the altar.
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Post by bfoley82 on Mar 1, 2022 23:27:25 GMT -5
Jared Grasso would be my first call if I am UMass. Matt Langel and John Becker would be logical candidates as well. Curious if any of those guys would have an interest. URI is the better job right now, and it would seem they would be competing with each other for the same candidates. McCall seemed like an odd hire from the start with his entire coaching career in the south after Pat Kelsey left them at the altar. Becker is older (it seems) than Langel.
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Post by gks on Mar 2, 2022 7:49:43 GMT -5
If I'm UMass I ask Pitino what it would take to get him to Amherst.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 2, 2022 8:56:33 GMT -5
Pitino would laugh.
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Post by gks on Mar 2, 2022 9:08:53 GMT -5
Why would he laugh? We've all seen that UMass can carry the state of Massachusetts with a successful team. BC is terrible so there goes that competition.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 2, 2022 9:15:22 GMT -5
Pitino, especially at his age, is uninterested in any mid major to leave Iona. He could care less about being the best team in Massachusetts. If he leaves, he wants to compete for a national championship.
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Post by alum on Mar 2, 2022 9:21:20 GMT -5
This Pitino discussion caused me to go looking for how much he is making. He was hired in March of 2020. They haven't filed a 990 on which he would be listed yet, but Tim Cluess earned $697,000 in the fiscal year ending 6/30/19 and $768,000 in the fiscal year ending 6/30/20.
Maybe we need to pay our head coach more going forward?
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Post by gks on Mar 2, 2022 9:30:54 GMT -5
Pitino, especially at his age, is uninterested in any mid major to leave Iona. He could care less about being the best team in Massachusetts. If he leaves, he wants to compete for a national championship. You don't think Pitino would be competing nationally at UMass within a couple of years? Pitino might be a skunk but he can recruit.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 2, 2022 9:57:46 GMT -5
At his age an Atlantic 10 rebuild is not a quick route to a final four
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Post by cmo on Mar 2, 2022 10:53:14 GMT -5
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Post by Ignutz on Mar 3, 2022 9:03:27 GMT -5
Per an ESPN.com article on Mid-Major MBB this morning:
Retiring Lafayette coach Fran O'Hanlon coached his final game Tuesday when the Leopards fell at home to Bucknell in the Patriot League tournament. O'Hanlon is one of five head coaches at the same Division I program since the start of the 1995-96 season, joining Jim Boeheim, Mike Krzyzewski, Bob McKillop and Tom Izzo.
(Some pretty heady company.)
The same article noted:
Boston University senior Sukhmail Mathon became the 10th player in Patriot League history to reach the 800-rebound plateau when he did so earlier this season. Mathon also was named Patriot League player of the year.
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Post by rf1 on Mar 3, 2022 12:21:19 GMT -5
Potential candidates for the UMass coach should probably not view the job as a stepping stone to better future gigs. History points to the opposite outcome:
UMass Coaches in the last 50 years Jack Leaman 1966-79 | Record 217-126 Ray Wilson 1979-81 | Record 5-48 Tom McLaughlin 1981-83 | Record 16-40 Ron Gerlufsen 1983-88 | Record 55-84 John Calipari 1988-96 | Record 189-70 Bruiser Flint 1996-01 | Record 86-72 Steve Lappas 2001-05 | Record 50-65 Travis Ford 2005-08 | Record 62-35 Derek Kellogg 2008-17 | Record 155-137 Matt McCall 2017-2022 | Record 59-81
Only two of the last ten UMass coaches in 50 years have ever left Amherst for better jobs - Calipari (NBA NJ Nets) and Ford (Oklahoma State). Leaman had success but retired. Most all the others were fired or resigned before being terminated. Calipari is the only coach to have ever won in the NCAA Tournament at UMass.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 3, 2022 12:32:20 GMT -5
Lappas has a pretty nice gig on tv
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Post by hchoops on Mar 3, 2022 12:32:51 GMT -5
Pitino says he does not want to go to Maryland
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Post by rf1 on Mar 3, 2022 12:35:33 GMT -5
Lappas has a pretty nice gig on tv
Not a coaching gig however.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 3, 2022 12:48:18 GMT -5
At his age an Atlantic 10 rebuild is not a quick route to a final four Yes, that league isn't what it was when UMass was dominating it. But it's still a better conference than the MAAC. And somewhere along the line, the Mullins Center comes into play compared to where Iona plays.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 3, 2022 12:50:18 GMT -5
Potential candidates for the UMass coach should probably not view the job as a stepping stone to better future gigs. History points to the opposite outcome: UMass Coaches in the last 50 years Jack Leaman 1966-79 | Record 217-126 Ray Wilson 1979-81 | Record 5-48 Tom McLaughlin 1981-83 | Record 16-40 Ron Gerlufsen 1983-88 | Record 55-84 John Calipari 1988-96 | Record 189-70 Bruiser Flint 1996-01 | Record 86-72 Steve Lappas 2001-05 | Record 50-65 Travis Ford 2005-08 | Record 62-35 Derek Kellogg 2008-17 | Record 155-137 Matt McCall 2017-2022 | Record 59-81 Only two of the last ten UMass coaches in 50 years have ever left Amherst for better jobs - Calipari (NBA NJ Nets) and Ford (Oklahoma State). Leaman had success but retired. Most all the others were fired or resigned before being terminated. Calipari is the only coach to have ever won in the NCAA Tournament at UMass. Leaman was a great coach but the program was sinking fast his last two years. Calipari was the 4th of his successors; the others were a disastah.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 3, 2022 21:35:57 GMT -5
Bruiser coasted on Cal's coat tails until they were used up.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 3, 2022 21:55:09 GMT -5
For those who rule out all long time assistant coaches for head jobs, look at Arizona’s Tommy Lloyd, who was Mark Few’s assistant at Gonzaga for many years. Or even MichiganState’s Tom Izzo, now tied with Bob Knight for all time Big Ten wins. Izzo was a long time assistant at MSU to Judd Heathcoate.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 3, 2022 22:00:20 GMT -5
Assistant Coach, fine. "Prove it" non guaranteed contract. Why offer guarantees in exchange for no track record that can be proven is the assistant's doing not the head coach's?
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Post by timholycross on Mar 3, 2022 22:27:54 GMT -5
Bruiser coasted on Cal's coat tails until they were used up. Didn't realize until a week or so ago that Bruiser was Coach Cal's right hand man again.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 3, 2022 22:30:58 GMT -5
For those who rule out all long time assistant coaches for head jobs, look at Arizona’s Tommy Lloyd, who was Mark Few’s assistant at Gonzaga for many years. Or even MichiganState’s Tom Izzo, now tied with Bob Knight for all time Big Ten wins. Izzo was a long time assistant at MSU to Judd Heathcoate. When we played Syracuse in the early 70s they had this kind of dweeby assistant to the very personable Roy Danforth; was surprised when Danforth left they gave the guy the head job. Boeheim.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 3, 2022 22:46:12 GMT -5
With all the attention that pundits and analysts pay to basketball, you'd think that someone could do a really comprehensive study of this issue: (1) getting your head coach from the ranks of D-1 assistants (several extremely successful examples of this cited above) or (2) getting your head coach from the ranks of very successful D-2 or D-3 head coaches. Of course, there is another option-getting your new coach from the ranks of successful D-1 coaches but that may not be as available to HC as to a higher profile program due to $$ constraints
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 3, 2022 22:49:15 GMT -5
For those who rule out all long time assistant coaches for head jobs, look at Arizona’s Tommy Lloyd, who was Mark Few’s assistant at Gonzaga for many years. Or even MichiganState’s Tom Izzo, now tied with Bob Knight for all time Big Ten wins. Izzo was a long time assistant at MSU to Judd Heathcoate. When we played Syracuse in the early 70s they had this kind of dweeby assistant to the very personable Roy Danforth; was surprised when Danforth left they gave the guy the head job. Boeheim. One interesting thing here is that Boeheim became a head coach at the same school where he was an assistant, so the PTB there at Syracuse had years of observing him. Danforth probably endorsed him. My guess is that Brey might not have endorsed Kearney as his successor at Notre Dame but was happy to unload him to HC. I won't speculate on Nelson at Marquette
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 4, 2022 0:54:55 GMT -5
When we played Syracuse in the early 70s they had this kind of dweeby assistant to the very personable Roy Danforth; was surprised when Danforth left they gave the guy the head job. Boeheim. One interesting thing here is that Boeheim became a head coach at the same school where he was an assistant, so the PTB there at Syracuse had years of observing him. Danforth probably endorsed him. My guess is that Brey might not have endorsed Kearney as his successor at Notre Dame but was happy to unload him to HC. I won't speculate on Nelson at Marquette We can extrapolate. I wish Ralph had endorsed Andy Sachs.
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