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Post by DiMarz on Feb 11, 2022 21:17:18 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Feb 11, 2022 22:28:46 GMT -5
Talked to another coach from the northeast tonight and we couldn’t figure out what might be going on in Annapolis
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Post by bison137 on Feb 11, 2022 22:50:32 GMT -5
Talked to another coach from the northeast tonight and we couldn’t figure out what might be going on in Annapolis Could you elaborate a bit on this? As far as I see, Navy over the past three months has been almost exactly what people were expecting before the year began. |
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Post by timholycross on Feb 12, 2022 9:14:21 GMT -5
I guess at this point it's appropriate to ask if any league games were outright cancelled versus postponed (as the HC games were).
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Post by Tom on Feb 12, 2022 9:30:54 GMT -5
IF HC manages to climb into the log jam, the losses to American and Bucknell don't hurt as much in the tiebreaker formula. If you're losing to the bottom two teams which most other people aren't, then you probably won more games against the better teams than the guys you're tied with Currently 3-2 vs the teams tied just in front of us. 4-2 if you add in B.U. who is just a game in from of them. Usually with a couple of games to go, I break down HC's seeding possibilities. Too many possibilities with seven to go. Mathematically possible to finish anywhere from first to tenth
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Post by cmo on Feb 12, 2022 18:06:20 GMT -5
Dumb question, is 6-6 better than 7-7 in a league standings sense ?
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Post by hchoops on Feb 12, 2022 18:38:31 GMT -5
5 Crusaders in double figures
Somewhat unusual for a team that scored only 78.
Has it been a long time since that has happened ?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 12, 2022 18:52:43 GMT -5
Dumb question, is 6-6 better than 7-7 in a league standings sense ? Yes. While technically tied now, the one game difference in loss column means that its still theoretically possible for the 7-7 team (Army) to win all the rest of its games and still finish behind the 6-6 team (Holy Cross). And if Holy Cross wins out, they will be guaranteed ahead of Army, even if Army wins out. |
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Post by timholycross on Feb 13, 2022 8:34:36 GMT -5
The bad news: HC has to play the top 3 teams in the standings out of its remaining 6.
The good news: All 3 are at home.
One thing I'm looking forward to figuring out is what effect the Navy/Lehigh game has on the final standings; a game Navy lost that was absolutely impossible to lose.
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Post by Tom on Feb 13, 2022 10:17:46 GMT -5
One thing I'm looking forward to figuring out is what effect the Navy/Lehigh game has on the final standings; a game Navy lost that was absolutely impossible to lose. Probably not much other than it's another win and another loss. Lehigh is going to have a leg up in the tie breaker department as one of the two teams to beat Colgate. It will be a big deal if Lehigh winds up tied with a team they split against who also beat Colgate |
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Post by hchoops on Feb 13, 2022 11:14:56 GMT -5
The bad news: HC has to play the top 3 teams in the standings out of its remaining 6. The good news: All 3 are at home. 4 of the 5 recent wins were away. |
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 13, 2022 11:35:27 GMT -5
The bad news: HC has to play the top 3 teams in the standings out of its remaining 6. The good news: All 3 are at home. One thing I'm looking forward to figuring out is what effect the Navy/Lehigh game has on the final standings; a game Navy lost that was absolutely impossible to lose. Alternate angle: This is an opportunity to catapult up the standings and secure a home game through at least one round of the playoffs. Win 5 of 6 and the 2-seed is a possibility. Continuing to turn the corner in the league means beating teams we’re supposed to beat and holding serve at home — the team now has a chance to prove it belongs, and based on what we’ve seen in the 2nd halves of games recently, I am hopeful that they are going to be up for the challenge. Go Cross Go!! |
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 13, 2022 11:50:47 GMT -5
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Post by crusader1970 on Feb 13, 2022 13:05:05 GMT -5
Despite our recent success, according to the Sagarin computer rankings we are still the lowest rated team in the entire PL at 338.
The hole we dug ourselves in our first 18 games is going to be hard to overcome. Even if we run the table (long shot at best) I doubt if we can get under #300 by season's end.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 13, 2022 13:27:39 GMT -5
Massey rates HC at #338 (ahead of both Bucknell #339 and American #342) out of a total of 358 teams.
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Post by Tom on Feb 17, 2022 9:17:56 GMT -5
The sky might not be falling, but the ceiling certainly is.
Last night HC was mathematically eliminated from the #2 spot in the league
IF HC wins out and there's all kinds of help. they could still finish as high as #3
If HC wins out and everything else goes bad, HC could finish as low as 6th
10th place is still in play through tiebreakers
HC is currently tied for 7th with Lafayette. Lafayette has a much easier road ahead facing Bucknell, BU, and Lehigh in addition to HC while HC faces #1 and #2 Colgate and Navy in addition to Army
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 20, 2022 9:13:43 GMT -5
Looking forward to the latest scenarios. Just looking quickly without researching tiebreakers, it seems 3rd to 9th place is still possible?
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 20, 2022 9:18:13 GMT -5
Tough test coming up. HC has lost the last two Mondays - short rest, short bench, consecutive road games.
Guessing we end up finishing 8-10, 5th or 6th.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 20, 2022 9:22:25 GMT -5
We’re currently tied for 5th with games against #8 Laf, #1 Gate and #7 Army left to play. I suspect that final game vs Army will have significant seeding implications. A win at home against the Gate would be a big boost for any tiebreaker scenarios.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 20, 2022 9:29:14 GMT -5
Realistically, I think we should be hoping for a 6 seed. 4th is not likely given remaining schedules. 5th and 6th both involve road games but the 5th path likely means a road game at Lehigh followed by a trip to Colgate for the semis. The 6th path likely has us traveling to BU and Navy before a potential trip to Hamilton for the final. Much better option in my opinion. And many of us would be able to go to BU.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 20, 2022 9:43:24 GMT -5
You're not suggesting that the Crusaders "throw" a game or two like they do in the NFL, are you?  |
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 20, 2022 13:37:12 GMT -5
Play hard and win as many games as possible.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 20, 2022 15:44:42 GMT -5
You guys realize that the wink emoji meant I was kidding, right? We aren't in a position to lose any games on purpose. More specifically, Nelson's not. He needs every win he can get as his future with Holy Cross is far from a sure thing at this point.
Admittedly, there is progress but it's 2 steps forward, 1 step back. Yes, that's sort of expected with a young team (when does "inexperience" stop being used? when we have all seniors? RW used to say that "by the end of the season, there's no such thing as a freshman."). I see Louth and Caleb improving by leaps and bounds. Martindale has regressed. His strong suit was never defense but now his shooting is suspect. Luc looks to be improving and then he starts with the exceptionally poor passes again. Gates is great except, gee, he sometimes can't produce when playing 1 on 3 or 1 on 4. I wonder why?
Biggest issue seems to be that while individual players are mostly improving, the team as a whole is still not getting much synergy. The sum is less than the individual parts. It's like 1+1+1+1+1 = 3.5.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 20, 2022 16:02:14 GMT -5
Fortunately the second half of the PL is much more significant in handicapping the PLT than the first half (eliminating variables like star players becoming injured or recovering) even though both halves count equally in seeding.
A team that's 6-3 in the second half has an excellent chance to beat a higher seed on the road that was 4-5 in the second half.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 20, 2022 17:54:22 GMT -5
This year is a little reminiscent of Milan Brown's first here - a horrific OOC (1-13), followed by a 7-7 league mark (including a 4-2 finish in regular season play), good enough for third place.
The 1984-85 team was winless in the OOC and bounced back to go 8-6 (5-3 finish) in the MAAC, also finishing third.
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