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Post by Tom on Feb 23, 2022 14:30:49 GMT -5
Milan B is the closest to .500 at .454 I found it curious that he is 6th on the all time wins list. PL Regular Season (PLT)*
Milan Brown, 40-38 (2-5) Bill Raynor, 28-34 (2-5) Bill Carmody, 28-44 (6-3) Sean Kearney, 5-9 (1-1)
Brett Nelson (in progress), 14-36 (0-2)
*Non-RW Division
When things are bad, we don't need to paint them as worse. Coach Nelson is 0-1 in the PLT. Nothing to be proud about, but better than 0-2. Last year, HC did not participate in the tournament
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2022 14:49:45 GMT -5
I was going to post the same thing. Nothing too low for some of the BN critics to use...even to manufacturing losses in games that were never played.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 23, 2022 14:52:35 GMT -5
Couldn’t have just been a typo or mistake, could it?
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2022 14:57:16 GMT -5
Sure it could, and it might also be due to poor editing (if any). When using numbers to try to make a point, one might want to be sure the numbers offered are correct. No?
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Post by Tom on Feb 23, 2022 15:19:45 GMT -5
I was just thinking that someone forgot a minor detail about the game being cancelled. Normally in a league like ours, the number of tournament losses equals the number of years minus championships. This is a rare exception
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 23, 2022 15:46:48 GMT -5
I was just thinking that someone forgot a minor detail about the game being cancelled. Normally in a league like ours, the number of tournament losses equals the number of years minus championships. This is a rare exception To Nelson's credit, he is only at one in the "all important loss column."
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 23, 2022 15:57:09 GMT -5
PL Regular Season (PLT)*
Milan Brown, 40-38 (2-5) Bill Raynor, 28-34 (2-5) Bill Carmody, 28-44 (6-3) Sean Kearney, 5-9 (1-1)
Brett Nelson (in progress), 14-36 (0-1)
*Non-RW Division
When things are bad, we don't need to paint them as worse. Coach Nelson is 0-1 in the PLT. Nothing to be proud about, but better than 0-2. Last year, HC did not participate in the tournament
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 23, 2022 15:58:17 GMT -5
Corrected. Actually, just a careless mistake on my part.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 23, 2022 16:14:42 GMT -5
Corrected. Actually, just a careless mistake on my part. Thanks. But it won't bail out our skipper because based on this chart in a vaccum, before applying ifs and buts, Both Raynor and Kearney coached circles around BN.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2022 16:24:59 GMT -5
Wasn't Kearney the one who had a player mutiny on his hands and was forced to change his coaching style? How could that let him coach circles around anyone?
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 23, 2022 16:36:52 GMT -5
Facts as far as I can tell:
Brett is currently riding a 17-59 all-time record for a .223 winning percentage.
Next worse Holy Cross men's basketball coach is Sean Kearney at 9-22 with a .290 winning percentage.
Next after Sean was Hop Riopel at 14-34 or .292.
Roughly, Brett would need to win the next 8 games in a row to surpass the two worse coaches ahead of him (25-59 = .297).
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 23, 2022 16:48:48 GMT -5
"Hop" Riopel will forever be known as "Mr. Holy Cross" for his years of dedicated service to the college. He was a three-sport standout at Holy Cross, earning an amazing 11 varsity letters as a Crusader. The baseball team won 100 games during his four years, while the football team posted a 25-10-1 mark. He was a key playing the Crusaders' upset of Syracuse on the gridiron in 1921, and his game-saving catch helped snap Boston College's 23-game baseball winning streak in 1923. After graduating in 1924, Riopel turned down professional baseball offers to accept a teacher/coaching position at Milford High. He served as basketball coach at Assumption College from 1928-1932 and returned to his alma mater in 1933 as freshman baseball, basketball and football coach. He spent four years (1934-35, 1942-45) as the head coach of the men's basketball team, and spent 27 years as a Crusader assistant football coach (1933-37, '39, '41, and 1944-63). Riopel was was named athletic director at the college and was inducted in the Varsity Club Hall of Fame in 1957. Riopel retired as athletic director on June 30, 1966, and died less than three months later. www.findagrave.com/memorial/69465374/albert-didace-riopel
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Post by hchoops on Feb 23, 2022 17:10:31 GMT -5
He also was the varsity baseball coach in the 60s.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 23, 2022 17:49:42 GMT -5
Wasn't Kearney the one who had a player mutiny on his hands and was forced to change his coaching style? How could that let him coach circles around anyone? Any video of that mutiny? Whatever happened it wasn't FADDR's finest hour. He hired an unproven rookie to follow RW. It was like Jack Benny on the tonight show after Robin Williams brought the house down, saying to Johnny "I've got to follow that guy?"🙂
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 23, 2022 18:03:04 GMT -5
"Hop" Riopel will forever be known as "Mr. Holy Cross" for his years of dedicated service to the college. He was a three-sport standout at Holy Cross, earning an amazing 11 varsity letters as a Crusader. The baseball team won 100 games during his four years, while the football team posted a 25-10-1 mark. He was a key playing the Crusaders' upset of Syracuse on the gridiron in 1921, and his game-saving catch helped snap Boston College's 23-game baseball winning streak in 1923. After graduating in 1924, Riopel turned down professional baseball offers to accept a teacher/coaching position at Milford High. He served as basketball coach at Assumption College from 1928-1932 and returned to his alma mater in 1933 as freshman baseball, basketball and football coach. He spent four years (1934-35, 1942-45) as the head coach of the men's basketball team, and spent 27 years as a Crusader assistant football coach (1933-37, '39, '41, and 1944-63). Riopel was was named athletic director at the college and was inducted in the Varsity Club Hall of Fame in 1957. Riopel retired as athletic director on June 30, 1966, and died less than three months later. www.findagrave.com/memorial/69465374/albert-didace-riopelAnd then there was Vince Dougherty and then RP, Sr. before D.R., right? Much stability in the position before our latest trio of men on the way up. Not that there's anything wrong with advancing in your career, but what used to be the culmination of a career was a stepping stone for two recent ADs. Kit indicated he'd like to stay a while.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 23, 2022 18:12:28 GMT -5
Vince Dougherty. During my four years on campus, I never crossed paths or recall actually seeing him in person. Saw more of Nate Pine in one week at events than I ever saw of Vince.
Did he really exist and have an office in the Field House? 😳
My only recollection of him was of a signature on the football ticket booklet provided each year for students that were placed in the PO Box in September.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2022 18:16:57 GMT -5
One anecdote I got from Hop was a memory of his senior year. A representative of the grateful people Worcester (Hop had many fans) gave him a purse of gold coins on the mound at Fitton Field. I don't, how ver, think he was AD in 1966 (spring of my junior year). Yes, Vince did exist, have an office in the field house, and even showed there from time to time.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 23, 2022 23:13:17 GMT -5
Great as Colgate apparently is, Nelson’s worst coaching hole got a little deeper with another loss.
Thanks for the AD history lesson.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 24, 2022 8:18:37 GMT -5
Wasn't Kearney the one who had a player mutiny on his hands and was forced to change his coaching style? How could that let him coach circles around anyone? Even the staunchest Bill Carmody supporter (i.e., the anit-BBC) would concede Kearney inherited a much better team than Nelson did
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