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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 2, 2022 13:55:13 GMT -5
Interesting that Rowing has entered the discussion and that Men’s rowing will now begin recruiting internationally. I recently noted a discussion about the disparity of recruiting rowing talent in the Ivy League. Saw this comment, “There is little wonder that Yale dominates in heavyweight crew. There are 35 members of the roster who are from overseas (UK, Croatia, Netherlands, Australia,Germany, Switz, etc). Harvard also has nearly 30. As a point of comparison, Columbia has only one, and not surprisingly that means they are not able compete at a high level (though it is worth noting that CU's lightweight team won the national championship a few years ago).” www.voy.com/152805/203734.htmlNot exactly relevant to our discussion regarding the current talent level on the present basketball team, however, international recruiting may become more of a trend with the demographic changes occurring regarding college admissions. HC currently has one non U.S. resident on the team, LC. Over the years we have had a few, Ryan Serravalle, Clayton LeSane, Neil Fingleton, etc. But not a sufficient amount to make a critical impact trend. Often, St. Mary’s of California is mentioned as a team that is succeeding in the WCC. Of note, on their current roster, they have 8 non U.S. players on the team of 16. smcgaels.com/sports/mens-basketball/rosterThis team is in critical need of an additional player that can consistently rebound and score inside without a size disadvantage of 4 or more inches in height as we saw against Colgate, Lehigh, BU and even Lafayette. If we are to improve next year, Brett and his staff should be working the portal and whatever international contacts available to secure a player that can step into that role for next year.
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Post by joe on Mar 2, 2022 14:03:58 GMT -5
Critical to this discussion is whether or not the players have faith in the present system as manifest by how many enter the transfer portal. If none, I would take that as a sign of their belief in the program and would agree with at least another year. If there is a high rate of transfer, there is no reason to continue to invest more time and money into the current staff.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 2, 2022 14:04:20 GMT -5
Pretty staggering that Milan Brown was the last head coach to have a winning record in the Patriot League. Virtually all of his players stayed and proudly graduated from Holy Cross - and gave us an improbable PLT Championship.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 2, 2022 14:06:14 GMT -5
The moment Kit Hughes began interviewing at Holy Cross, he looked at our football and basketball programs. Once he saw men's basketball floundering in Nelson's third season, the next thing that came to mind was "How many years on his deal?" He then began thinking of who he would like to speak with for the job.
This is just human nature.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 2, 2022 14:20:29 GMT -5
Critical to this discussion is whether or not the players have faith in the present system as manifest by how many enter the transfer portal. If none, I would take that as a sign of their belief in the program and would agree with at least another year. If there is a high rate of transfer, there is no reason to continue to invest more time and money into the current staff. I agree. That said I don't think Gates would be returning if he thought the coach would be shown the door. And I don't think Gates would saddle up for another season if he knew some of teammates were bolting. As I noted up-thread, Kit said he has had one-on-one meetings with every head coach about their sport, and we can fairly assume that the conversations with key head coaches were extensive. Kit may have put some markers down with Nelson, but I'm quite certain one of them wasn't Win or Else in the 2021-22 PL championship rounds. Chesney is aiming for the FCS championship, and what he, his staff, and the team need to do to get there. The men's rowing coach is talking about rowing at the Royal Henley.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 2, 2022 14:44:03 GMT -5
In Carmody's final year the PL was ranked #21 in D-1 per Pomeroy and was rated (4.84). In Nelson's third year the PL was ranked #28 in D-1 per Pomeroy and was rated (10.32) Conclusion: Carmody faced much tougher competition in conference than Nelson did. Do you disagree with that? I completely disagree. The pL rankings in Carmody's four years were 27-23-27-21 (avg = 24.5) The pL rankings in Nelson's three years were 28-24-23 (avg = 25) The pL has been ranked between 23-28 in 7 of the last 8 year and you picked the one "outlier" when the pL was ranked at 21. My follow-up question would be: what difference does it make? The bottom of the pL is a little worse now than it was in Carmody's final year, but the league stunk at both points. If it stunk slightly less one year than another, I don't think that really tells any story of significance. It's funny that you quoted my post but the computer did not pick up the full message which included the comparison between Carmody's last year and Nelson's third year.
"The pL has been ranked between 23-28 in 7 of the last 8 year and you picked the one "outlier" when the pL was ranked at 21." NO--you picked those two years, I just answered your post with the facts.
"The bottom of the pL is a little worse now than it was in Carmody's final year, but the league stunk at both points."-. Wrong again, I'm afraid. My recap showed that multiple teams were dramatically weaker this season than they were in Carmody's final season. If you cannot discern that there is something really deficient in your analytical skills.
In Carmody's final season, as noted earlier, the composite PL was rated at (4.84) . That equates to team #219 in D-1. In Nelson's third season, as noted earlier, the composite PL was rated at (10.32) . That equates to #290 in D-1. There is a huge difference between #219 and #290. Huge
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Post by bikeman on Mar 2, 2022 14:58:22 GMT -5
Would like to see him recruit a top prospect or two like football is doing. I say one more year.
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Post by football44 on Mar 2, 2022 15:04:15 GMT -5
I always admit that I am no basketball expert. A few on this board are and they add so much to our debates. With that caveat stated, I will put myself in the camp that advocates for making a coaching change now. I believe that CBN has demonstrated that he is not a very good X's & O's coach. As others have suggested, it seems that he is a stubborn man, set in his ways: e.g. we do a man-to-man defense and will not try a zone-period. I think he may have a big problem in coaching players who are not as skilled as he was, as in "why can't these guys do this"? If he's been in basketball "at the highest level", as his PR flack likes to tell us, for 20 years and doesn't yet comprehend how to handle the X's and O's (clock management, offense and defense installation, in-game adjustments, etc) what makes us think he'll be adept at it in Year IV? From what I've heard, it also seems that he wants to coach the team, but not lead the program. What does that mean? On this board (and let me repeat that I have never heard him speak and I don't know if he has an accent and I don't care if he has an accent) he is not active with former players, alums, supporters, fans. If I were coach, I'd make selling the program a priority. How hard would it be to allocate 15 minutes every day to make phone calls to season ticket holders, former players, etc? How hard would it be to have a reception before or after games ? I guess we do have those occasionally. How hard would it be to submit to an interview with the broadcaster after every game? Here's a funny story about getting off on the right foot with supporters. I know that some people hate John Calipari and I am making no endorsement of him as a person or coach. The week he came on board as UK's coach, I went up to my parish's pastor who is a huge UK fan, and said something about having a new coach. Father Chuck, now Archbishop Thompson of Indianapolis, said "He's off to a great start. He went to mass the first day he was in Lexington". Maybe he goes every day or maybe that was his only time at Mass for the decade--doesn't matter, it's just a funny story to me. Still, Calipari does a tremendous job connecting with fans. I know he is paid handsomely to do that, but so was former UK coach Billie Gillispie and he did little. We could keep CBN another year but that would be just postponing the inevitable. We should improve our W-L record, and might even do so if I were named the coach, but with Brett Nelson I think we have a very low ceiling as others have suggested. Maybe he could get us to a .500 record but that is not what we want for our program now and certainly long-term. Maybe he's a decent recruiter-may still be too early to tell on that-but we need more. I think Milan Brown was a good recruiter (love what someone said about CBN being FCMB but without the personality) but that was not enough. In replacing CBN I pray that we have learned our lesson (I understand it even as an admitted non-expert on basketball) that there is a difference between being an assistant coach at whatever level, and being a head coach. There are a lot of great salesmen who became mediocre sales managers. We need someone who can do all the key tasks- recognizes talent and potential, recruit (persuasive salesmanship), develop talent in school, sell the program to all key constituents, and excel in the X's and O's. Open the checkbook and pay for the best. I'd look to the "Chesney Model" and find a real star in D-2 and D-3. PLEASE-no more long-time assistants from a "top D-1 program". We need someone new and I'm willing to risk losing players to the portal (sure hope we keep the supremely talented KL for one) knowing that, with the right coach we will be better off in years to come than if we retain CBN. I do wish him the best on the next phase of his career and I do recognize that we may very well keep him for next season,, which 60%+ of our posters recommend. Again I'm a football guy but I'll give my two cents. Follow the new path to success. Coach Chesney a local talent who coached in New England. Kit Hughes a Massachusetts guy who's come home from the Midwest knowing all about Holy Cross. The next BB coach should come from the basketball Mecca (area) of the world New York/New Jersey. The home of basketball gym rats who know all about Holy Cross basketball and its history. Someone who knows and recruit top talent in the Northeast. They do that and they'll be going in the right direction. Again in my humble opinion.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 2, 2022 15:19:52 GMT -5
I completely disagree. The pL rankings in Carmody's four years were 27-23-27-21 (avg = 24.5) The pL rankings in Nelson's three years were 28-24-23 (avg = 25) The pL has been ranked between 23-28 in 7 of the last 8 year and you picked the one "outlier" when the pL was ranked at 21. My follow-up question would be: what difference does it make? The bottom of the pL is a little worse now than it was in Carmody's final year, but the league stunk at both points. If it stunk slightly less one year than another, I don't think that really tells any story of significance. It's funny that you quoted my post but the computer did not pick up the full message which included the comparison between Carmody's last year and Nelson's third year.
"The pL has been ranked between 23-28 in 7 of the last 8 year and you picked the one "outlier" when the pL was ranked at 21." NO--you picked those two years, I just answered your post with the facts.
"The bottom of the pL is a little worse now than it was in Carmody's final year, but the league stunk at both points."-. Wrong again, I'm afraid. My recap showed that multiple teams were dramatically weaker this season than they were in Carmody's final season. If you cannot discern that there is something really deficient in your analytical skills.
In Carmody's final season, as noted earlier, the composite PL was rated at (4.84) . That equates to team #219 in D-1. In Nelson's third season, as noted earlier, the composite PL was rated at (10.32) . That equates to #290 in D-1. There is a huge difference between #219 and #290. Huge
I really don't understand the point you're trying to make. Are you trying to say that the pL transformed into the Big East or A-10 in Carmody's final year? Are you continuing to ignore the impact of losing the three best players off a team that finished last in that vaunted 2019 pL, as well as the impact of having to completely rebuild a roster? How about the impact of having to play a condensed schedule in the 2nd half of pL play this year and how that would impact a young team vs an experienced team? Or we're just going to pretend that a couple below average teams becoming really bad teams makes a significant impact on the league? Is there any point here, or are we just flinging poop against the wall with every number that could potentially make HCBN look bad?
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Post by Ray on Mar 2, 2022 15:30:37 GMT -5
Is there any point here, or are we just flinging poop against the wall with every number that could potentially make HCBN look bad? Could, potentially, make him look bad? To extend the metaphor, you're the one trying to tell us that somehow his 17-62 record doesn't stink.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 2, 2022 15:46:23 GMT -5
1) Your numbers were wrong 2) Why didn't you go back into pL player the year before Nelson arrived to help set the baseline? It's just so disingenuous to ignore all other factors around the program before and during HCBN's time. PL Records: CARMODY15-16: 5-1316-17: 9-917-18: 8-1018-19: 6-12NELSON19-20: 2-1620-21: 5-1121-22: 7-11We had a better record in the pL this year than Carmody's final year, which lost its three best players before Nelson arrived. At MIMUMUM, we will improve on Carmody's best pL regular season record by 2 games next year (on paper, 11-7 would be a serious disappointment for me). Let's stop pretending Brett Nelson stepped into the program than Sean Kearney inherited from RW 12 years ago (or however many years its been since this nightmare started). In Carmody's final year the PL was ranked #21 in D-1 per Pomeroy and was rated (4.84). In Nelson's third year the PL was ranked #28 in D-1 per Pomeroy and was rated (10.32) Conclusion: Carmody faced much tougher competition in conference than Nelson did. Do you disagree with that? here's where the PL teams ranked in D-1, again per Pomeroy, in Carmody's final year and Brett Nelson's third year. Note that PL team rankings will change a bit depending on results of remaining games Team= 2018-19 Rank/2021-2022 Rank =Change
Colgate= 126/132= fell 6 places-not a meaningful change Bucknell= 145/334= fell 189 places--massive decline Lehigh= 169/306= fell 137 places--massive decline American U= 200/333= fell 133 places--massive decline Boston U= 231/214= gained 17 places--slight improvement Holy Cross=239/349= fell 110 places-massive decline Army= 242/290= fell 48 places--meaningful decline Loyola=270/267= gained 3 places--not a meaningful change Navy= 280/174= gained 106 places=very significant improvement Lafayette= 298/324= fell 26 places= slight decline
In other words, CBC left HC as still a respectable program that was in the bottom half of all programs but still somewhere in the broad middle of the pack and that could still win D-1 OOC games. The PLT is the ticket to the NCAA, but I hope we also regain competitiveness against our regional D-1 OOC opponents. Being 2-1 vs D-3 in the Nelson era is melancholy.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 2, 2022 15:52:02 GMT -5
If CBN does continue to coach next year, I think at least 2 of the following have to happen for the team to jump into the top 4 of the league (and I am assuming RJJ will come back at 100%):
1. A new big kid comes in that is a strong contributor from the get go 2. There is collective major improvement from the trio of Louth/Rabs/Lewis, especially in the area of providing offensive punch 3. CBN will unveil some defensive wrinkles (such as REAL pressing with the use of traps, a few different zones, etc) as the team gets older, and in theory could handle new wrinkles
If these are not realistic expectations then, to put it mildly, there could be problems.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 2, 2022 15:56:40 GMT -5
Response to BBC--didn't want to use quote option so I have reproduced his statements below.
I appreciate your feeble attempts at witty insults. Keep practicing and one day you'll make one that lands.
BBC: "I really don't understand the point you're trying to make".
Of course you do. Stop being disingenuous. It's a really simple point and I stated it very clearly. You stated an opinion that Nelson's team performed better in his third year than Carmody's team did in his last year and I think I proved, to any reasonable person, that the PL was much stronger three years ago than it is now. My guess is that you understand you were off-base but can't admit that.
BBC: "Are you trying to say that the pL transformed into the Big East or A-10 in Carmody's final year?"
I guess you don't realize how pathetic this debate technique of yours is. You use it often and it has become really tiresome. Here's a fictional example to illustrate your tactic. A poster suggests that John Doe is a good baseball player and you disagree. You counter by saying "Are you trying to say that John Doe is the next Babe Ruth?" You really should retire this repeated use of this puerile technique--gross distortions about another poster's statements, mocking that poster's judgment.
BBC: "Are you continuing to ignore the impact of losing the three best players off a team that finished last in that vaunted 2019 pL, as well as the impact of having to completely rebuild a roster? How about the impact of having to play a condensed schedule in the 2nd half of pL play this year and how that would impact a young team vs an experienced team?"
We did not lose our three best players but you stubbornly cling to that belief. As far as the "inexperienced" explanation goes, it no doubt has some merit, but I think you exaggerate it. If Nelson is retained for next season will you still be using that excuse if we struggle?
BBC: "Or we're just going to pretend that a couple below average teams becoming really bad teams makes a significant impact on the league?"
Iy was more than "a couple teams" as the facts bear out. It makes a huge difference. I showed that a number of PL teams dropped significantly. If you don't think that it is easier to beat, say, the # 320 team than it is to beat the #250 team you are not being realistic. Did Carmody's team lose to a #333 D-1 team three times?
BBC: "Is there any point here, or are we just flinging poop against the wall with every number that could potentially make HCBN look bad?"
There is a point and I've stated it clearly multiple times. I'm not trying to make HCBN look bad--his coaching and results on the court have done so.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 2, 2022 16:06:25 GMT -5
Is there any point here, or are we just flinging poop against the wall with every number that could potentially make HCBN look bad? Could, potentially, make him look bad? To extend the metaphor, you're the one trying to tell us that somehow his 17-62 record doesn't stink. Please tell me where I said that. 17-62 stinks 9-22 stinks 5-11 stinks 3-29 stinks 58-73 stinks 16-17 stinks 12-19 stinks 15-17 stinks 15-20 stinks 14-16 stinks 12-18 stinks 15-14 stinks 8-21 stinks 9-22 stinks We have stunk for almost the entirety of the last 13 years (one decent season with Milan, 4 games in March with Carmdoy). Brett Nelson is not the outlier. Brett Nelson's first three years have stunk just like the 10 years prior to his arrival. Just because I don't think he should be canned before he has had a legitimate chance for a season without at least one hand tied behind his back, does not mean that I think he's the second coming of John Wooden. I'm truly amazed that some people are not capable of grasping that very clear nuance. We have hired (1) a Holy Cross prototype assistant from Notre Dame, (2) experienced younger head coach at the D1 level, (3) experience dinosaur head coach with experience in the IVY & Big10, and (4) a high-major assistant with a great playing pedigree who was connected to the best coaching tree is college basketball. Why on earth would anyone think that the 5th time is going to magically be the charm? Especially from an AD who does not have a basketball background and who has been on the job for 60 days. Now people think the magic bullet is the "Chesney Model" which is quite frankly a crock of %^&#. Chesney was the perfect hire for the Holy Cross Football program, and translating that hire (both the job experience & off-the-field attributes) to the HC MBB program is just fantasyland.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 2, 2022 16:08:15 GMT -5
There you go again
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Post by hc17 on Mar 2, 2022 16:17:10 GMT -5
A fellow classmate & close friend sent me the following text in the aftermath of yesterday's defeat, which I think captures the overall sentiment when it comes to this question. "There's still enough promise and barely enough results to justify keeping Nelson".
With that said, after 3 seasons, you're either buying what Nelson is selling (ie. potential, recruiting) or you're looking for another coach with an alternative vision.
Over the past 3 years, I do not have a ton of evidence to point to that suggests Brett is some sort of basketball Xs & Os savant. I don't think he is. On the flip side, he recruited an All-PL player in Gates & 2 All PL Rookie team players in Luc & RJJ, which should project well in future seasons. I wouldn't be surprised if Batchelder joins them after next season. That core plus Kenney, Louth and others is promising. Does it yield you a PL championship next season? I'm not sure, but admittedly it's unlikely to see such a stark improvement YoY. How much value you place in our recruiting is probably how you feel about this question.
One thing is for certain - the record is atrocious & minimal improvement will lead us to another search next season (if not sooner).
If you're not convinced by Nelson, but still believe he should get another year to prove otherwise, I understand. What I don't understand is the sentiment around the buy-out. If he's not the guy for this program, dump him. We shouldn't keep the guy just to arrive at the same conclusion a year later because of $$$. Chesney signed a new deal, Riga is a year into his contract, Magarity is in year 2 - paying Nelson's buy-out shouldn't impact our core sports. If the program has arrived at the decision to move on, they should be willing to pay the buy-out. That's part of the statement of intent.
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Post by Bleed Purple on Mar 2, 2022 16:29:54 GMT -5
I voted to keep Nelson without conviction. I had set a modest 10 win threshold to keep him, but I do think the team looked better as the year progressed, so I reasoned we should give him another chance to see if improvements continue. Next year will be the year he needs to deliver wins.
< 15 wins, we part ways amicably, saving $300k in severance (this assumes a 4 year contract is in place) 15-16 wins, one year extension. Keep him on a short leash 17-19 wins. 2 year extension. Better...give him a longer leash 20+ wins. Full 4 year extension.
My 2 cents.
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Post by aaa8316 on Mar 2, 2022 17:17:13 GMT -5
Could, potentially, make him look bad? To extend the metaphor, you're the one trying to tell us that somehow his 17-62 record doesn't stink.
Please tell me where I said that.
17-62 stinks 9-22 stinks 5-11 stinks 3-29 stinks 58-73 stinks 16-17 stinks 12-19 stinks 15-17 stinks 15-20 stinks 14-16 stinks 12-18 stinks 15-14 stinks 8-21 stinks 9-22 stinks
We have stunk for almost the entirety of the last 13 years (one decent season with Milan, 4 games in March with Carmdoy).
Brett Nelson is not the outlier. Brett Nelson's first three years have stunk just like the 10 years prior to his arrival.
Just because I don't think he should be canned before he has had a legitimate chance for a season without at least one hand tied behind his back, does not mean that I think he's the second coming of John Wooden. I'm truly amazed that some people are not capable of grasping that very clear nuance.
We have hired (1) a Holy Cross prototype assistant from Notre Dame, (2) experienced younger head coach at the D1 level, (3) experience dinosaur head coach with experience in the IVY & Big10, and (4) a high-major assistant with a great playing pedigree who was connected to the best coaching tree is college basketball.
Why on earth would anyone think that the 5th time is going to magically be the charm? Especially from an AD who does not have a basketball background and who has been on the job for 60 days.
Now people think the magic bullet is the "Chesney Model" which is quite frankly a crock of %^&#. Chesney was the perfect hire for the Holy Cross Football program, and translating that hire (both the job experience & off-the-field attributes) to the HC MBB program is just fantasyland.Best post of all time on Crossports.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 2, 2022 17:37:08 GMT -5
I think I proved, to any reasonable person, that the PL was much stronger three years ago than it is now. My guess is that you understand you were off-base but can't admit that.
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There is a point and I've stated it clearly multiple times. No, you didn't actually state a point, and you didn't really prove anything. You posted numbers that show the pL looking better in 2019 than 2022, but did not actually tie that back to results. How many wins would it have added to the 2019 team versus taken away from the 2022 team? What would constitute "much weaker" results for the 2022 team if they had to face the GAUNTLET that was the 2019 PATRIOT LEAGUE? When I just ran the conference efficiencies through KenPom's game score prediction formula for each pL team in 2022 and 2019, I got the following: 2022 HC team vs: 2022 pL: AVG Margin of Defeat = 6.5, Median Margin of Defeat = 6.4 2019 pL: AVG Margin of Defeat = 7.1, Median Margin of Defeat = 5.6 (AVG mainly increased by Colgate margin of 25 vs 18 in 2022)
Call me crazy, but those numbers say that the makeup of the league wouldn't have made a difference one way or the other. Again, I don't understand your argument as it relates to the direction of the program. The 2019 finished in last place in the pL with a 6-12 record, and then lost its three best players. The 2022 team finished in 7th place in the pL with a 7-11 record and brings everyone back. Even If the 2019 team would have potentially won 1-2 more games in the 2022 pL, are you really going to try to argue that would fundamentally change the above premise? You being completely take-committed to the idea that HCBN doesn't belong at HC is getting in the way of reason
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Post by Tom on Mar 2, 2022 18:19:24 GMT -5
I think most people here think that 9-22 (7-22 vs peer institutions) in year three stinks. I would add those same people think that being ranked in the bottom 10 in the country in year three also stinks
To me the question is whether or not the extenuating circumstances are sufficient to say three years is not a reasonable time frame for respectability.
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Post by Bleed Purple on Mar 2, 2022 18:19:57 GMT -5
Assuming CBN is pulling down $300k per, we are paying him $52,941 per win. $900k/17.
Nice work, if you can get it.
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Post by dharry13 on Mar 2, 2022 18:40:00 GMT -5
There simply is no reason to keeping Nelson. He just hasn’t gotten it done. BBC - you call it reason. I call it excuses. Who cares if AD doesn’t have BBall background. Blossom did and look what that got you.
Yes - there is no guarantee the next guy is going to change things. But you have to keep trying. Otherwise let’s sign Nelson to a 5 year extension.
Paying him out on last year is part of this business. Cut ties, move on and try luck with next candidate. And if that fails well then just keep trying. Nelson has done zero IMO to remain.
There are a few things I’ll give him credit for. Gates, Luc, Kenney - the rest of the roster is weak with Bo and Dajuan still having a chance. The kids also didn’t quit on him - I like that.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 2, 2022 19:37:11 GMT -5
There simply is no reason to keeping Nelson. He just hasn’t gotten it done. BBC - you call it reason. I call it excuses. Who cares if AD doesn’t have BBall background. Blossom did and look what that got you. Yes - there is no guarantee the next guy is going to change things. But you have to keep trying. Otherwise let’s sign Nelson to a 5 year extension. Paying him out on last year is part of this business. Cut ties, move on and try luck with next candidate. And if that fails well then just keep trying. Nelson has done zero IMO to remain. There are a few things I’ll give him credit for. Gates, Luc, Kenney - the rest of the roster is weak with Bo and Dajuan still having a chance. The kids also didn’t quit on him - I like that. 1) You don’t “have to keep” trying if blowing things up before Nelson coaches his second recruited upper-classmen could actually make things worse. We have tried the “cut ties and move on” routine without a plan for the next guy two times in the last decade, and each time it failed miserably. 2) What about RJ Johnson? 8.5 PPG & 4.3 APG as a frosh What about Louth? Dorsey has a moderately high floor as a great defender and would be a great piece if his offense comes around. Don’t like Rabinovich & Lewis (too early to tel IMHO) scholarships? Fine, but are we really expecting the coach to bat 1.000 with recruits at this level?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 2, 2022 19:41:24 GMT -5
So much talent with these recruits and we are ten from the bottom in all of Division 1.
So he’s a good recruiter and just a terrible coach?
Tough day for you on the board, Caro. Take a shift off.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 2, 2022 20:10:26 GMT -5
BBC—— why do I waste my time with you? You simply respond by offering new numbers and completely misinterpreting them. You just don’t believe in facts, I guess; you have developed your narrative and won’t deviate from it no matter how foolish you look.
Comparing margin of victory or defeat in two different years means nothing if the schedules are significantly different. My guess is that deep down you know that but think you can snow people with your nonsense. In Carmody’s last season HC’s strength of schedule was #247 overall in D-1 and #228 non-conference . For Nelson this past season it was #342 overall and #290 non-conference. If you cannot deduce that Nelson faced a much easier schedule in conference than Carmody did you are hopeless.
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