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Post by longsuffering on Mar 8, 2022 14:37:56 GMT -5
I agree with most of what's been said re: the end of the game. From the time the foul was whistled, I was thinking "Make the first, and miss the second." That being said, an argument against missing the second might be that a possible foul by one of our players on the rebound would send a Mid to the line needing to make one shot to tie and two to win (if I'm remembering correctly that they were in the bonus). If they weren't in the bonus, miss the second and just get a hand on the rebound, and let the clock expire. No sugar-coating the loss, but I agree with a previous poster who suggested that in the WNIT we have a chance for a win or, at the least, a competitive game - as opposed to a 40-point drubbing by South Carolina or Baylor. How would posters want to end a season (or college career), getting destroyed in a Round 1 NCAA game or having a fighting chance in a game (or two?) in the WNIT? At least in the Men's tournament, a first-round game is played in a big arena with all the hoopla and a number of other teams at the site. For the women, the best they could probably hope for would be a trip to one of the Carolina schools - or worse, a ride down I-84 to Storrs. I'd take the experience of the NCAAs every time over the other post-season tournaments--even if it means a big blow-out against a team like UCONN. There's nothing like that NCAA experience. You tell your grandkids about playing a team like UCONN or South Carolina in the NCAAs. A win over Coastal Carolina in the WNIT? Not so much. Having said that, it's a great accomplishment to reach a post-season tourney and that should be absolutley celebrated and enjoyed by all. But if you're asking? My answer is NCAAs. Agree the NCAA is the measuring stick and the shocking last second plays trying to get there (HC Men 2016, last night, etc.) make it even more exciting. But if you have a chance for the second best national tournament, you enjoy that, too.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 8, 2022 15:16:16 GMT -5
How would posters want to end a season (or college career), getting destroyed in a Round 1 NCAA game or having a fighting chance in a game (or two?) in the WNIT? I can guarantee not one girl on the team would prefer the WNIT over the NCAAs.
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Post by lou on Mar 8, 2022 15:20:16 GMT -5
I’m not sure it’s as easy to miss a free throw and also hit the rim as everyone thinks. Agree we should have tried it. Worst case, it’s an air ball and they’re still inbounding under the basket with the same time left. Any other foul shooter, I might agree. For Avery I expect it would have been easy
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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 8, 2022 17:44:15 GMT -5
I am sure that no one would object to seeing a large Purple 2022 WNIT Championship Banner being displayed from the rafters to accompany the 1954 NIT Banner.
Maybe be there would be one exception.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 8, 2022 17:48:16 GMT -5
I am sure that no one would object to seeing a large Purple 2022 WNIT Championship Banner being displayed from the rafters to accompany the 1954 NIT Banner. Maybe be there would be one exception. Especially with Ron Sr. and Togo still alive to raise the banner. Who are the other survivors from the NIT championship team? We just lost Tommy Gun.
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Mar 8, 2022 18:07:11 GMT -5
I am sure that no one would object to seeing a large Purple 2022 WNIT Championship Banner being displayed from the rafters to accompany the 1954 NIT Banner. Maybe be there would be one exception. Especially with Ron Sr. and Togo still alive to raise the banner. Who are the other survivors from the NIT championship team? We just lost Tommy Gun. Wasn't the NIT back then what the NCAA tournament is now? NIT was THE national tournament, I believe. Someone please help out my basketball history here.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 8, 2022 18:25:29 GMT -5
Back in the day, they were roughly equal in the eyes of many.
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Mar 8, 2022 18:33:18 GMT -5
Back in the day, they were roughly equal in the eyes of many. I mean that there was no "NCAA National Tournament." The tournament that existed and was the premier tourney was the NIT. I could be wrong in remembering but that is my recollection.
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Mar 8, 2022 18:34:18 GMT -5
Then they co-existed when a national NCAA tournament emerged.
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Post by hcnation on Mar 8, 2022 18:53:44 GMT -5
NCAA was only 8 teams back then and maybe a few may have went Nit over NCAA back then . The NIT was very prestigious .
However ”The game that stopped the 47 game home winning streak over 6 seasons was a 78-77 loss to Connecticut on Feb . 27, 1954 It proved costly, as it sent the Huskies to the NCAA Tournament and Holy Cross to the NIT . In many ways it was a bless- ing, as the Crusaders did not lose again, capping the season with an NIT title win against Duquesne” .
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 8, 2022 18:54:43 GMT -5
The NIT had the Madison Square Garden going for it when New York was the basketball Mecca. But didn't the 1947 NCAA team play there also?
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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 8, 2022 19:04:23 GMT -5
The 1947 NCAA Basketball Tournament involved eight schools playing in single-elimination play to determine the national champion of men's NCAA Division I college basketball. It began on March 19, 1947, and ended with the championship game on March 25 in New York City. Wikipedia Champion: Holy Cross Crusaders men's basketball Teams: 8
1947 NCAA Basketball Tournament Teams 8 Finals site Madison Square Garden New York City Champions Holy Cross Crusaders (1st title, 1st title game, 1st Final Four) Runner-up Oklahoma Sooners (1st title game, 2nd Final Four) Semifinalists CCNY Beavers (1st Final Four) Texas Longhorns (2nd Final Four) Winning coach Doggie Julian (1st title) MOP George Kaftan (Holy Cross) Attendance 72,959 Top scorer George Kaftan Holy Cross (63 points)
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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 8, 2022 19:07:43 GMT -5
The 1947 National Invitation Tournament was the 1947 edition of the annual NCAA college basketball competition. The Utah Utes won the tournament, led by Wataru Misaka. Misaka later joined the New York Knicks and became the first person of color to play in modern professional basketball.[1]
Teams 8 Finals site Madison Square Garden New York City Champions Utah Utes (1st title) Runner-up Kentucky Wildcats (2nd title game) Semifinalists North Carolina State Wolfpack (1st semifinal) West Virginia Mountaineers (3rd semifinal) Winning coach Vadal Peterson (1st title) MVP Vern Gardner (Uta
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 8, 2022 19:26:49 GMT -5
What is our rpi ? about 170 or so, or an 'average' D.1 team (among 351 schools) Easy guys, we're not capable of winning a WNIT - one win would be fantastic
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Post by joshua1 on Mar 8, 2022 23:50:36 GMT -5
What is our rpi ? about 170 or so, or an 'average' D.1 team (among 351 schools) Easy guys, we're not capable of winning a WNIT - one win would be fantastic you can’t but the blame on al she played well the team played well there was a couple of things that hurt and the big thing was free throws we missed at least 5 that were huge you have to look at what the team accomplished this season. They will get back to work for the wnit and prepare well I know our seniors are still hurting but we still get to play. Stop picking on a.l about the game
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Post by timholycross on Mar 9, 2022 0:23:53 GMT -5
Not too many ARE picking on AL. Perhaps an off game, but she executed a brilliant cut/back door to free herself to get fouled and hit the two shots. Making the second shot versus missing it (unless she was told to miss and accidentally didn't, but it didn't look like that) wasn't her decision.
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Post by joshua1 on Mar 9, 2022 0:55:21 GMT -5
Not too many ARE picking on AL. Perhaps an off game, but she executed a brilliant cut/back door to free herself to get fouled and hit the two shots. Making the second shot versus missing it (unless she was told to miss and accidentally didn't, but it didn't look like that) wasn't her decision. can’t blame her all we had to do was get a stop at the end and not let them score. You can’t blame al for making both free throws
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