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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 26, 2016 1:02:02 GMT -5
Some of these responses remind me of the tremendous ongoing PFT Commenter bit about Michael Sam.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 18, 2017 21:22:54 GMT -5
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Post by Crosser on Jan 18, 2017 22:04:12 GMT -5
"the players don't like it (the Princeton offense)." Was that a factor in MH leaving?
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Post by HC92 on Jan 19, 2017 6:24:33 GMT -5
"the players don't like it (the Princeton offense)." Was that a factor in MH leaving? Pretty sure they were referring to hating to have to defend the Princeton offense. |
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Post by hchoops on Jan 19, 2017 10:51:45 GMT -5
He left because CMB left and he wanted to be close to home.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 19, 2017 11:46:45 GMT -5
The way I heard it was that he never got over homesickness and had every intention of going back closer to home whether MB stayed or not. I think he was/is a great basketball player; could have helped us a lot; but he was the proverbial "fish out of water" in New England.
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Post by Crosser on Jan 19, 2017 16:43:26 GMT -5
"the players don't like it (the Princeton offense)." Was that a factor in MH leaving? Pretty sure they were referring to hating to have to defend the Princeton offense. I guess that would make more sense, doh!  |
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Post by hcgrad94 on Jan 19, 2017 18:30:03 GMT -5
Sader70 has it right.
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Post by HC1843 on Jan 19, 2017 19:24:31 GMT -5
But that's not how HC70, I mean ncaam, tells the tale.... Cheers. |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 19, 2017 19:30:15 GMT -5
But that's not how HC70, I mean ncaam, tells the tale.... Cheers. is the operative word given most of his posts. |
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Post by timholycross on Jan 19, 2017 19:35:49 GMT -5
He would have fit in well in CBC's scheme, how can you say that a long-range shooting big man wouldn't! Glad he is happy there given that didn't happen.
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Post by ncaam on Jan 19, 2017 22:28:34 GMT -5
The "tale" from the horses mouth......
Hahn averaged 4.7 points in 23 games with the Crusaders. Brown and his assistants were fired after an overtime loss at Bucknell in the conference quarterfinals that ended their season at 14-16.
Holy Cross won five of its last seven games before that. The news stunned the entire team.
“We were actually really surprised because the year before I got here they won 20 games,” Hahn said. “The team was kind of on the upside here. We were winning more games each season. We just had one bad year, and a bunch of guys had injuries, so we didn’t expect this to happen.
“When we got back from Bucknell, we heard the news. It was kind of a shock to everyone.”
Hahn said it didn’t take long to decide that he was leaving also.
“I knew that, once they were gone, it was going to be hard for me to stay because those guys were the reason why I came here in the first place,” he said. “With them gone, my whole reason why I was here was gone. I was like I should probably try to find a better place, and especially one closer to home.”
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 20, 2017 7:42:41 GMT -5
So, you actually spoke to Mitch?
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Post by Tom on Jan 20, 2017 9:40:38 GMT -5
So, you actually spoke to Mitch? NCAAM's quotes are from an article posted on the board about the time of the transfer. We all heard the rumblings about Hahn being homesick and basically unhappy in Worcester. It's also pretty safe to assume that no 19 year old guy is going to tell the press that he needed to transfer because he was homesick.  Most likely the decision was based on a combination of the homesickness and the termination of Coach Brown. We will likely never know if the weight of those factors was 50-50 or 90-10 (one way or the other). No matter what the relative weight of the factors, I liked the way he played and wish him well in future endeavors. |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 20, 2017 9:44:13 GMT -5
“The team was kind of on the upside here. We were winning more games each season. We just had one bad year Not true. It was four subpar years and one mediocre one. Good luck, Mitch! Hope you've been hanging in there, 70. |
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 20, 2017 9:57:08 GMT -5
Tom, you know my source. My pretty clear understanding was Mitch was gone with or without Milan. The firing of Milan made for a convenient cover for his general unhappiness with not feeling at home at Holy Cross. While the players on our team come from all over, they are generally from the east coast/metro areas. That's not Mitch's background. I think he was put in a place well beyond his comfort zone. If Milan stayed, could he have talked Mitch out of it? Maybe.
But really, does it matter? He's gone and I think a quality player and person and wish him all the best.
Edit: BTW, Tom, I basically agree with your total assessment
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 20, 2017 10:08:15 GMT -5
The firing of Milan made for a convenient cover for his general unhappiness with not feeling at home at Holy Cross. While the players on our team come from all over, they are generally from the east coast/metro areas. That's not Mitch's background. I think he was put in a place well beyond his comfort zone. Nails it. |
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Post by ncaam on Jan 20, 2017 10:09:02 GMT -5
You knuckleheads. I exerpted a couple paragraphs from a full article in a newspaper which quoted Mitch Hahn. Mitch Hahn was here because of Milan Brown and would have stayed with M Brown. I wish only the best for Mitch and unlike others my support is sincere.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 20, 2017 10:20:05 GMT -5
You knuckleheads. I exerpted a couple paragraphs from a full article in a newspaper which quoted Mitch Hahn. Mitch Hahn was here because of Milan Brown and would have stayed with my land Brown. I wish only the best for Mitch hot and unlike others my support is sincere. 1. I think the support offered by others is sincere. Why would you say we are lying? Knuckleheads? Classy comment. 2. I don't know about staying for "my land" Brown, but several people knew Hahn was not comfortable at HC and that he wanted to be closer to home. I know that does not suit your agenda, but there is no way for anyone (even you) to know for sure what might have happened had FCMB remained at HC. 3. Is using Hahn's transfer as a way to support your pro-Brown agenda any way to show sincerity regarding Hahn? |
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Post by cmo on Jan 20, 2017 10:24:29 GMT -5
The thing to remember is, it doesn't matter if we had Hahn, Gasperini, Kostecka, Proctor or Malik Monk; if CMB was coaching them, they wouldn't get better and we wouldn't win.
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Post by dadominate on Jan 20, 2017 10:27:42 GMT -5
The "tale" from the horses mouth...... Hahn averaged 4.7 points in 23 games with the Crusaders. Brown and his assistants were fired after an overtime loss at Bucknell in the conference quarterfinals that ended their season at 14-16. Holy Cross won five of its last seven games before that. The news stunned the entire team. “We were actually really surprised because the year before I got here they won 20 games,” Hahn said. “The team was kind of on the upside here. We were winning more games each season. We just had one bad year, and a bunch of guys had injuries, so we didn’t expect this to happen. “When we got back from Bucknell, we heard the news. It was kind of a shock to everyone.” Hahn said it didn’t take long to decide that he was leaving also. “I knew that, once they were gone, it was going to be hard for me to stay because those guys were the reason why I came here in the first place,” he said. “With them gone, my whole reason why I was here was gone. I was like I should probably try to find a better place, and especially one closer to home.” unless hahn goes on to be an nba all star or something else that would draw my interest as a basketball fan - university of nebraska, omaha games are not that - i couldn't possibly care less about him at this point. especially when you read these quotes. if you take his words at face value - and i do not, as i think homesickness is a tough thing for a teenager to publicly admit - then i have even less interest in hahn and milan brown. i felt a connection to rj evans' success and an interest in what he was doing, since 1.) he graduated from holy cross; 2.) he stuck with holy cross through ***TWO*** massive downgrades in basketball coaches from ralph willard to sean kearney and milan brown. both of whom were so bad they not only didn't last themselves, they ultimately got the athletic director who hired them fired.; 3.) he was playing for uconn against big east competition and it was cool to see him perform well. contrast that with these disappointing quotes. the "whole reason" you came to a great school like holy cross that is thousands of miles away from home to play for a coach who had performed poorly and was clearly on thin ice in everyone's eyes (except for the still delusional, cmb70)? if we do take this at face value, it makes hahn (and his family, if involved in the decision) look pretty foolish as going into the season the odds of milan brown being fired had to be at least 50/50. probably higher than that. yet another disappointing flameout in the patriot league tournament was the final nail in the coffin for brown. the next year alone, carmody surpassed brown's career patriot league tournament wins. hahn missed out on a chance to get a great education and, had he hung in there and valued the investment our school made in him, play for a coach that would have been much better for his game. the past is the past and i hope he is happy closer to home. it's probably better for his life and i hope he learned a lesson about making better-informed decisions for the rest of his life. |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 20, 2017 11:22:17 GMT -5
Mitch Hahn was here because of Milan Brown and would have stayed with my land Brown. Not true. Thomas Vigilance was the connection and reason. |
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 20, 2017 19:34:27 GMT -5
I can certainly understand disinterest in Mitch's go forward career (although I myself tend to watch more of those level games online than the big boys); I do have a hard time being judgemental of a teenager's life decision. I was VERY disappointed in hearing the news of his departure, but he was never responsible for my happiness as a HC basketball fan. And although Thomas V. was the connection, it was pretty clear from where I sat that Mitch really liked the coaches. But even then, so what? Even if he thought of Milan Brown as a second dad, I'm thinking that's no more outrageous than, say, RW having a friend like Ricky P. Not sure why any of this would matter at this point. And let's not forget where the power sits in these situations (see the ex UCONN football recruit). Not that Coach Carm would have ever done this with Mitch, but it would have been within his rights to tell the kid "look, I've had problems in the past with mid-western kids with freckles, so let's agree to part ways." Sure, there was pretty much zero chance of that happening, but the coach does have the POWER in that situation. So I can't blame the kids when this stuff happens.
I guess I am ranting a bit here, but I just found Mitch to be a really nice kid, and I heard nothing but good things said about him as a person. So sure, he's gone,,,,but as far as I'm concerned he did nothing wrong. And if Joe O'Shea could have threads on the board after he left, I see no harm in posting reports on Mitch. As 92 said, those not interested can move on to the next thread.
Rant over; let the weekend begin.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 20, 2017 20:04:21 GMT -5
Who? I must have missed something/someone.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 20, 2017 20:09:44 GMT -5
For those who forgot:
12/3/14 vs Albany
8/9 FGs
6/6 3 pt FGs
4 rebs
1 block
22 points
20 minutes on the court
A Freshman. Yeah, I miss him.
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