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Post by rgs318 on Apr 15, 2022 10:04:06 GMT -5
Her work on behalf of Special Olympics has been huge!
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Post by Tom on Apr 15, 2022 10:17:28 GMT -5
Back in the olden days, politics was about public service and as such was in line with the idea of men and women for others. Either times are changing or I'm more cynical, but today politics seems to be more about preserving one's own power than public service. As political figures become less concerned about public service, they become less of a good fit for an HC commencement speaker
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Post by Tom on Apr 15, 2022 10:38:51 GMT -5
Her work on behalf of Special Olympics has been huge! Her - Eunice? Her-Maria? or both?
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 15, 2022 10:44:52 GMT -5
I was thinking of Maria, but ít could be either.
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Post by mm67 on Apr 15, 2022 11:33:27 GMT -5
It was Eunice Kennedy Shriver. My late wife was involved in the Empire Games Special Olympics. Mrs Shriver regularly communicated and in fact did meet with the volunteers. She was wonderful. The Shriver family has contributed so much good to the lives of so many people.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 15, 2022 11:57:11 GMT -5
Sargent Shriver came to HC when he was running for VP in 1972
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Post by alum on Apr 15, 2022 12:31:01 GMT -5
Sargent Shriver came to HC when he was running for VP in 1972 He was also the Hanify Howland speaker in 1984.
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Post by Tom on Apr 15, 2022 12:47:26 GMT -5
Sargent Shriver came to HC when he was running for VP in 1972 He was also the Hanify Howland speaker in 1984. And came back again to pick up an honorary degree in 1986. Potentially just a ploy to get a good seat for Mark's graduation. Since his wife was on the BoT, not unreasonable to think there were some other visits to HC accompanying his wife
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Post by mm67 on Apr 15, 2022 14:17:05 GMT -5
Ky Certainly do not want to engage. But, what is your point? Wasn't the Peace Corps a good thing? Respectfully and with affection for you & fine Kentucky bourbon, MM Dear God-how could anyone interpret my post as anything other than stating the simple fact of another Shriver family contact with Holy Cross? That is all it was-nothing more. OK An Apology is in order. Thought the VP comment was a criticism. Will find a way to delete if possible. Respectfully, MM
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 15, 2022 14:27:33 GMT -5
Ky Certainly do not want to engage. But, what is your point? Wasn't the Peace Corps a good thing? Respectfully and with affection for you & fine Kentucky bourbon, MM Dear God-how could anyone interpret my post as anything other than stating the simple fact of another Shriver family contact with Holy Cross? That is all it was-nothing more. I was at that rally in the field house. I was taken with genteel Congressman Harold Donohue who introduced Shriver with phrases such as "As the poets say." I remember thinking Sarge was kind of "Kennedy Light" still getting his footing at public speaking. He was fine, but as Lloyd Bentson later famously told Dan Quayle, he was no Jack Kennedy. It was a Democratic campaign rally, but at a less divided time in American History where students of any persuasion felt comfortable attending, listening and learning anything they could.
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Post by mm67 on Apr 15, 2022 14:36:24 GMT -5
There are different paths for "men & women for others." None have a monopoly on truth, I think(?)
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Post by alum on Apr 15, 2022 18:48:06 GMT -5
Let me take this opportunity to plug Scott Stossel’s bio, “Sarge.”
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 15, 2022 18:57:57 GMT -5
there are different paths for "men & women for others." None have a monopoly on truth, I think(?) When I was growing up, taught by the Sisters of Charity, I thought it was "Nuns have a monopoly on truth." (...especially Sister Gerard Marie.)
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 15, 2022 20:40:07 GMT -5
That's a rap. On the knuckles.🙂
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Post by alum on Apr 15, 2022 20:56:39 GMT -5
He was also the Hanify Howland speaker in 1984. And came back again to pick up an honorary degree in 1986. Potentially just a ploy to get a good seat for Mark's graduation. Since his wife was on the BoT, not unreasonable to think there were some other visits to HC accompanying his wife I also believe that the Shrivers were responsible for the visit to campus of Valery Giscard D’Estang in 1983(?)
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 15, 2022 21:40:05 GMT -5
And came back again to pick up an honorary degree in 1986. Potentially just a ploy to get a good seat for Mark's graduation. Since his wife was on the BoT, not unreasonable to think there were some other visits to HC accompanying his wife I also believe that the Shrivers were responsible for the visit to campus of Valery Giscard D’Estang in 1983(?) What a lifespan VGE had. Born in 1926, he fought with the Free French Forces in WW II, then died of Covid-19 in December, 2020.
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Post by rf1 on May 6, 2022 9:23:30 GMT -5
The bishop is still at war with the Nativity School with an opinion column in the Telegram. He only further diminishes himself.
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Post by rgs318 on May 6, 2022 9:33:53 GMT -5
That is sad to hear. Why does it seem that whenever he draws a line on the Church position on something, it is often drawn in quicksand.
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Post by longsuffering on May 6, 2022 13:12:57 GMT -5
That is sad to hear. Why does it seem that whenever he draws a line on the Church position on something, it is often drawn in quicksand. Civil rights (BLM banner) and gay rights (rainbow banner) are not even fringe concepts anymore, they are woven into the mainstream of American Society. The T&G probably recruited him to get a free column to drive clicks and he couldn't resist.
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Post by rgs318 on May 6, 2022 13:32:47 GMT -5
That could explain a ,to...including the poor judgement on his part.
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Post by Tom on Jun 15, 2022 20:43:02 GMT -5
Word on the street is that tomorrow, the bishop will announce that the Nativity School of Worcester can no longer identify as Catholic.
The bishop's authority is not absolute in this matter. There is a process for appeals
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 15, 2022 21:33:01 GMT -5
Can Nativity identify as Jesuit Sponsored?
Can he remove the Jesuit Imprimatur without the approval of the Provincial?
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 15, 2022 21:48:27 GMT -5
At the PC meeting Sunday morning, 2 questions were directed to Vince Rougeau about this matter. He was obviously uncomfortable about it but went out of his way to say he and the bishop have had a cordial relationship. He also mentioned that when he drove by Nativity recently the flags were down but did not know if it was a result of an agreement with the bishop or simply down for the weekend.
One alum asked for more details being a non-Worcesterite. Vince focused on the Black Lives Matter and less on the rainbow LGBTQ flag. He made the distinction of the political aspects (my words, not his) vs. the value of black people’s lives.
He explained that many of the students at Nativity were black and brown and my impression was he was trying to keep his and Holy Cross’ distance from the controversy.
If others here also attended Sunday morning’s discussion, chime in if I have misinterpreted anything.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jun 16, 2022 7:07:51 GMT -5
Word on the street is that tomorrow, the bishop will announce that the Nativity School of Worcester can no longer identify as Catholic. The bishop's authority is not absolute in this matter. There is a process for appeals I feel some kinship with the Nativity School. As a divorced and remarried Catholic (the requirement of an annulment is offensive) I am not allowed to take communion. Why does the Church go out of its way to alienate people? It's what the Church does best.
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Post by Tom on Jun 16, 2022 8:21:41 GMT -5
As I understand things, the sentence "Black Lives Matter" is not synonymous with the organization. The school is focusing on the sentence and the bishop is focusing on the organization.
In a statement from the Nativity School
I understand the bishop's logic. I disagree with his action
Either way, this puts Holy Cross in an awkward position
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