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Post by bison137 on Apr 18, 2022 21:30:27 GMT -5
In other words, they suck worst than we suck. #347 versus #343. In Pomeroy’s rankings, they are ahead of HC.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 18, 2022 21:33:00 GMT -5
You are correct. Wonder why you did not give the numbers? 347. 349
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 18, 2022 22:05:30 GMT -5
Didn't see that coming. Wishing RJ the best of luck and just going to chalk it up to him wanting to be closer to home.
And this thread should now die for good unless either a) Johnson leads the nation in scoring at Chuck South b) he ends up playing against us in some ferkakta tournament or c) leads Charleston Southern on some improbable NCAA tournament run.
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Post by Ignutz on Apr 18, 2022 22:09:14 GMT -5
Without casting aspersions re: anyone who’s ever transferred from HC, for some, the academic workload might possibly exceed what they can, or want to, handle. I’m sure that specific teams and the athletic department in general would provide assistance to academically struggling student-athletes, but some would probably prefer to matriculate where the schoolwork is a lesser burden.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 18, 2022 22:09:30 GMT -5
Sort of agree, but do you or did you ever have a 20-21 year old ? No, but I do have (and fully appreciate) a Holy Cross degree, and feel awful for these kids that they are being allowed (and potentially even encouraged in some cases) to throw away a golden opportunity that will impact them for their entire life after college.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 18, 2022 22:12:35 GMT -5
Green, Lowder, Johnson, Luc. We're 0 for 4 retaining Point Guards. It would be nice to find a four year starter like Avery on the women's side who likes the pressure and responsibility of the position.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Apr 18, 2022 22:24:37 GMT -5
Didn't see that coming. Wishing RJ the best of luck and just going to chalk it up to him wanting to be closer to home. And this thread should now die for good unless either a) Johnson leads the nation in scoring at Chuck South b) he ends up playing against us in some ferkakta tournament or c) leads Charleston Southern on some improbable NCAA tournament run. You know it won't. Someone with nothing better to do will post his numbers every game and this thread will be 40 pages by New Years Day.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 18, 2022 22:45:02 GMT -5
The thread is very clearly titled.
If you have so many better things to do with your time, it is very easy to just not click into the thread.
If you continue to be interested in RJ Johnson (for whatever reason and/or agenda you wish to satisfy), it is very easy to click into the thread.
The beauty of America and the Internet.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 18, 2022 22:46:39 GMT -5
Charleston Southern has had the same coach for 15+ years. He has been conference coach of the year twice. Maybe RJJ sees something appealing in this Coach
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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 18, 2022 22:54:30 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 18, 2022 23:37:20 GMT -5
In 2015 the CSU Buccaneers went to the FCS playoffs.👏 Unfortunately all their wins from that season and 2014 were later vacated by the NCAA.🤕
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Apr 19, 2022 4:42:30 GMT -5
So he chose an inferior academic school. Why be judgmental? He still has a shot at life - not every non alum turns into a message board get a lifer. I don't blame him for either the state of college basketball, or the state of HC college basketball. I bet their dining hall at least has better barbecue. Doesn't matter to me, anyway. I'm about to focus on starting my own 1 team college fantasy league, where I can 1) make all the decisions on who comes or goes, and 2) we win a championship every year. Will be much healthier for me.
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Post by sader81 on Apr 19, 2022 6:18:40 GMT -5
On the surface, this makes no sense whatsoever. Ever been to Charleston? In my top 5 of best cities in the country, and he’s closer to home. Hate to see him go, but good luck to him.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 19, 2022 6:33:19 GMT -5
I suspect it’s just as easy to get a job in NC or SC with a Charleston Southern degree as an HC degree. Once you get that first job, it matters even less where/if you went to college. We need to stop overstating the potentially catastrophic and life-changing results when one leaves HC for a different school. We all love HC but acting like this kid is doomed for failure because he’ll get a degree from Charleston Southern instead of HC is silly.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Apr 19, 2022 7:04:06 GMT -5
Sort of agree, but do you or did you ever have a 20-21 year old ? And presume they are happy to have him much closer to home. I've had four of them. IIRC I too was once 21 and didn't always exercise good judgment. But I also don't know why RJ is leaving. It's too bad because it looks like the PG job was his and he was getting an HC education. As others have said, though, he might have been homesick, the school work might have been more demanding than he wanted, he might not like BN, he might not like New England winters, he might not like the HC social scene, etc. etc.
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Post by Tom on Apr 19, 2022 7:30:15 GMT -5
Sort of agree, but do you or did you ever have a 20-21 year old ? And presume they are happy to have him much closer to home. I happened to bump into the mother of a player who transferred out of HC and she did not agree with her son's decision. With the scholarship comes lack of parental financial control. If a kid, for some inconceivable reason, was truly unhappy at HC, you would hope the move would be to an academic minded institution. Think Yeutter going to Johns Hopkins
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Post by Ignutz on Apr 19, 2022 7:47:50 GMT -5
So the CSU football "stadium" has a seating capacity approximately equal to the HC basketball arena. This at an institution that has an enrollment approximately ten-percent larger than Holy Cross. I think it's safe to say that inter-collegiate athletic competition is not a very big part of the CSU student experience.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Apr 19, 2022 8:07:36 GMT -5
The faded purple sweater set's crown for visiting other schools websites will never be challenged.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Apr 19, 2022 8:16:49 GMT -5
I suspect it’s just as easy to get a job in NC or SC with a Charleston Southern degree as an HC degree. Once you get that first job, it matters even less where/if you went to college. We need to stop overstating the potentially catastrophic and life-changing results when one leaves HC for a different school. We all love HC but acting like this kid is doomed for failure because he’ll get a degree from Charleston Southern instead of HC is silly. NAILED it. Let's not let the association of good memories and a great experience cloud our objective judgement. I work in a large corporation where a great deal of senior executives, if not just people flat out making more money than me, went to "worse schools." The only thing HC did for my career was train me to be a hard worker, think critically, voice my opinion, and be respectful and open-minded. I may have heard twice in my life "oh that's a good school," or "my uncle went there." I hear many more positive remarks about my high school, working in NYC. None led to me ever getting a job offer, or even assistance other than what I have asked for from the kind and generous gentlemen on this board.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 19, 2022 8:29:32 GMT -5
Besides the country club, no one cares where you went to school.
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Post by dharry13 on Apr 19, 2022 8:43:35 GMT -5
I actually think this does make sense. RJ has 1 year of tape. Of which was mediocre. He's not good enough to go higher than this level. Luc - yes. But based on what I saw and his production he probably didn't have a ton of options for himself. Best of luck.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 19, 2022 8:46:32 GMT -5
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Post by thecrossisback on Apr 19, 2022 9:01:03 GMT -5
Doesn't matter to me, anyway. I'm about to focus on starting my own 1 team college fantasy league, where I can 1) make all the decisions on who comes or goes, and 2) we win a championship every year. Will be much healthier for me. I am starting to follow D3 more at least you know most of the kids will stay on the team for 4 years. Or come back from and injury and stay on the same team.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 19, 2022 9:01:04 GMT -5
From my point of view, this move says much more about the Holy Cross basketball program than it says about RJJ and his judgment.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Apr 19, 2022 9:01:44 GMT -5
Yikes. 66% first year retention rate, 35% six year graduation rate, $18M endowment. I agree that people can and do succeed from any college. I don't agree that it doesn't make a difference where you go. One small example: my wife is a clinical psychologist but also does some executive coaching for some prominent companies. She's been told more than once she was hired in large part because she went to Vanderbilt undergrad and has her PhD from UVA. It made a difference to these companies where she went.
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