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Post by efg72 on Apr 25, 2022 19:52:24 GMT -5
April 25, 2022 @ 12:46pm » Alek Arend
Paul Finebaum Has A Warning For College Football Fans Paul Finebaum looks on. ATLANTA, GA - DECEMBER 07: Paul Finebaum of the SEC Network before the SEC Championship game between the Georgia Bulldogs and the LSU Tigers on December 07, 2019, at Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, GA.(Photo by Jeffrey Vest/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images) College football in the 2010s compared to the 2020s is an entirely different landscape. Paul Finebaum doesn’t just think the current NIL and transfer portal frenzy is unsustainable; he believes it could be the end of the sport as we used to know it.
College football is slowly, but surely transitioning from an NCAA-run organization to something like a minor professional league. Eventually, the sport as we know it will probably be gone.
Finebaum thinks it’s only a matter of time before college football is done and transitions to something entirely different.
“I don’t think this is a sustainable model that will last a couple years. It’s impossible to predict the break up of an organization like this because it moves so slowly,” Finebaum said, via Saturday Down South.
“But it is going to come apart, the NCAA is on its last breath and I think college football as we know it is on its last breath, and it’s happening with unbelievable speed, supersonic speed that I could not have predicted.”
Overreaction? Probably. But the point is that the sport is changing rapidly and before we know it we won’t recognize it.
All of the transfer and NIL changes have been major benefits for the players. However, it’s unregulated. The NCAA would be wise to add a few provisions to keep the sport in-tact.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 26, 2022 4:49:50 GMT -5
Or, rather than NCAA regulation, let the horses run with NIL. The student athletes will benefit. However, will be interesting to see what kind of market there is for the product that is college athletics once the major sports become de facto professional leagues. Why watch big time college football being played by paid players when I can watch the NFL and its a better product? I'll still follow the Patriot League -- that's a totally different product in the new world that is emerging.
I definitely support the student-athletes leveraging their name, image and likeness to make money. I just can't promise I'll personally keep watching if the overall product turns into something totally different.
Where do we go from here if the big schools break away from the NCAA? In addition to NIL and scholarships, fully paid players who are university employees? Elimination of eligibility requirements to allow players to compete not just for four years but six, eight, ten? How about going back to the late 19th Century when Ivy League squads were filled out with ringers from local athletic clubs and make it so players don't have to be actual students of the college, just employees that play a sport.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Apr 26, 2022 9:36:56 GMT -5
The big time schools are realizing that the NCAA isn't needed. It's like county government. You have the local law (the mega Conferences) and you have the national law (the Federal government). Make your deals, earn your money, pay your taxes, and everyone will be happy. TV rights can be negotiated directly with networks. The SEC has their own. Others have broadcast/simulcast/redistribution rights with other networks... it's not hard when there is enough money involved. When the NCAA wanted to talk out of both sides of their mouths about the student athletes, grades, integrity-- and then profit handsomely off of it all-- while students failed, changed schools like socks, murdered, cheated, got drugged up, stole from taxpayers, etc., then the farce was up.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 26, 2022 10:29:35 GMT -5
“But it is going to come apart, the NCAA is on its last breath and I think college football as we know it is on its last breath, and it’s happening with unbelievable speed, supersonic speed that I could not have predicted.” Overreaction? Probably. But the point is that the sport is changing rapidly and before we know it we won’t recognize it. All of the transfer and NIL changes have been major benefits for the players. However, it’s unregulated. The NCAA would be wise to add a few provisions to keep the sport in-tact. Paul Finebaum is speaking to the SEC audience. Changes are definitely afoot for those teams. That said, it's not going away elsewhere. There will still be an Army-Navy Game, Harvard will still play Yale, and Holy Cross will still play at Fitton Field.
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Post by sader81 on Apr 26, 2022 11:16:16 GMT -5
It was too much money involved in the late 70s which led to the creation of 1-a and 1-aa in NCAA football. Now its mega money involved, some players getting paid a lot, others not at all. How can a foreign team lineman appreciate his team when there is such a disparity when the backs and receivers are getting cars. Free agency in pro baseball raised everyone's salary. The "rising tide raising all ships" won't work on the collegiate level. May take a few years, but college athletics is done as we know it.
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Post by Tom on Apr 26, 2022 11:51:05 GMT -5
When I think of name, image, and likeness, I think of guys getting compensated for Madden 2022 using their image. Even endorsements if a guy does a radio spot for Sneakerama.. Will the southern Florida Ford dealers chip in to have this guy be a spokesman? When I get an E-mail from the athletic department, there's usually a picture of someone on it. Is that what UMiami is paying 800K for?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 26, 2022 12:54:50 GMT -5
When I think of name, image, and likeness, I think of guys getting compensated for Madden 2022 using their image. Even endorsements if a guy does a radio spot for Sneakerama.. Will the southern Florida Ford dealers chip in to have this guy be a spokesman? When I get an E-mail from the athletic department, there's usually a picture of someone on it. Is that what UMiami is paying 800K for? Miami not paying him 800K, some app called LifeWallet is. New NCAA rules do allow schools to help FACILITATE NIL deals.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 26, 2022 14:00:39 GMT -5
Gee, I wonder if the booster groups in Tuscaloosa will let Nick Saban have a say in what players they fund........
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 26, 2022 14:24:55 GMT -5
One scoop of grits for no, two for yes.
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Post by Sertorius on Apr 27, 2022 5:50:48 GMT -5
I feel like players getting paid harms the integrity of the game. Isn't it a legitimate concern when other entities have players on the pay roll? I mean point shaving is a thing and payments to players could have too much leverage. Football is already a huge commitment and imagine having to play injured because of threats to take away perks/revenue. I just feel this is a pandora's box. I really loved football but it was rough too. Imagine how much more taxing hearing "do your job" or "you're fired" when it's actually the case. Also having players further removed from the student body is antithetical to what College Football is to me.
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Post by Bleed Purple on Apr 28, 2022 12:27:07 GMT -5
Imagine a scenario where the P5 leagues turn fully professional. Jettison the NCAA Eliminate all academic requirements for players Eliminate any limits on compensation Eliminate any limits on length of service In essence the P5 leagues become alternative professional leagues competing with the NFL and NBA for talent. U of Alabama then owns a franchise in the SEC. Imagine University of Texas acquiring Aaron Rogers or Duke acquiring Lebron James. Tom Brady returns to Michigan for his final year for a big payday. With deep pocketed alumni and lucrative TV contracts, could the P5 schools have the means to go "tet a tet" with the NFL and NBA for the best talent available.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 28, 2022 12:44:52 GMT -5
They would join the graveyard of other leagues that sought to challenge the NFL. Although why shouldn't Tom Brady get a Covid year to go back to Michigan when he's fifty. I'd watch.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 28, 2022 14:03:13 GMT -5
Imagine a scenario where the P5 leagues turn fully professional. Jettison the NCAA Eliminate all academic requirements for players Eliminate any limits on compensation Eliminate any limits on length of service In essence the P5 leagues become alternative professional leagues competing with the NFL and NBA for talent. U of Alabama then owns a franchise in the SEC. Imagine University of Texas acquiring Aaron Rogers or Duke acquiring Lebron James. Tom Brady returns to Michigan for his final year for a big payday. With deep pocketed alumni and lucrative TV contracts, could the P5 schools have the means to go "tet a tet" with the NFL and NBA for the best talent available. ...or let's say the "college" leagues ban anyone that plays in the "pro" leagues; but allows "college" kids to play as long as they want. Instead of Senior Night there will be retirement nights.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 28, 2022 14:08:32 GMT -5
I think there will still have to be some association with academics. I think there would be a lot of pushback if the P5 tried to turn the players into just employees. There's only so much room in the NFL for first year players; 95% of P5 players won't make the NFL.
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Post by Bleed Purple on Apr 28, 2022 15:14:16 GMT -5
Should the "Transfer Portal" be renamed the "Free Agency Portal"?
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 28, 2022 15:54:46 GMT -5
Should the "Transfer Portal" be renamed the "Free Agency Portal"? Yes. And scrap the term portal.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 28, 2022 16:19:11 GMT -5
...and allow "free agent" coaches to also sign on.
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Post by newadvisor on Apr 28, 2022 16:53:09 GMT -5
Should the "Transfer Portal" be renamed the "Free Agency Portal"? The TRANSFER PORTAL is no different than the Coaches Portal. For generations the adults in the NCAA business have had all the rights to do what they please, whenever it works in their favor. Do I believe the transfer portal works, not really. Less than 50% of the kids find a new home, but most of those kids won't be happy anywhere they go. The portal is needed though for some kids who got either over recruited or under recruited. The NCAA has made billions of dollars on the backs of these young men and women. Why should they not have the right to make a change, all of us have done it in business. The problem is the NIL money, it creates and uneven playing field like never seen before in amateur athletics. I know a d3 school in Iowa is paying big money for 3 star plus recruits. All it takes is 1 huge donor to offset the balance of recruiting at the lower levels. Does anybody on this board think NDSU isn't paying their players. The sad thing is the only way to get on the National scene and be consistent is to hop on the train. As an ex college athlete I wish I had the chance to garner a salary and play at a place I loved. I am excited for the kids to have these opportunities, but buckle up its gonna be the Wild West. Does anybody think Jackson state can get the #1 overall recruit in the country without NIL money even if Deion is the coach? The NIL will be the death to what we know is the NCAA. If the NFL gets 100 billion in ad money over the next 10 years. The SEC sure could get 5-10 billion over the same amount of time with their fan base. Just the humble opinion of an over the hill ex athlete.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 28, 2022 17:10:24 GMT -5
To me a huge issue with the portal is the players, on full scholarship, who enter the portal and do not find a scholarship offer at another school. It’s no one’s fault but their own, of course, but you have to feel sorry for them
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 28, 2022 17:32:04 GMT -5
Has Bubba found a home? I hope he's not left out when the music stops.
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Post by mm67 on Apr 28, 2022 19:10:29 GMT -5
Should the "Transfer Portal" be renamed the "Free Agency Portal"? The TRANSFER PORTAL is no different than the Coaches Portal. For generations the adults in the NCAA business have had all the rights to do what they please, whenever it works in their favor. Do I believe the transfer portal works, not really. Less than 50% of the kids find a new home, but most of those kids won't be happy anywhere they go. The portal is needed though for some kids who got either over recruited or under recruited. The NCAA has made billions of dollars on the backs of these young men and women. Why should they not have the right to make a change, all of us have done it in business. The problem is the NIL money, it creates and uneven playing field like never seen before in amateur athletics. I know a d3 school in Iowa is paying big money for 3 star plus recruits. All it takes is 1 huge donor to offset the balance of recruiting at the lower levels. Does anybody on this board think NDSU isn't paying their players. The sad thing is the only way to get on the National scene and be consistent is to hop on the train. As an ex college athlete I wish I had the chance to garner a salary and play at a place I loved. I am excited for the kids to have these opportunities, but buckle up its gonna be the Wild West. Does anybody think Jackson state can get the #1 overall recruit in the country without NIL money even if Deion is the coach? The NIL will be the death to what we know is the NCAA. If the NFL gets 100 billion in ad money over the next 10 years. The SEC sure could get 5-10 billion over the same amount of time with their fan base. Just the humble opinion of an over the hill ex athlete. Kudos. IMO you were right on target. Thank you. mm
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 28, 2022 21:34:06 GMT -5
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Post by newadvisor on Apr 28, 2022 21:45:06 GMT -5
WILD WEST!!!!!! How much money has Vegas made on the Final Four. I understand the kids position, but wrong way to do it. If he's good enough go play the G league and get paid. Miami basketball isn't Kentucky or Duke. Wait till a school like Stanford gets its boosters to throw down some cash. It'll be the Fab Five all over. The NCAA should give Reggie Bush back his Heisman
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Post by hc6774 on Apr 29, 2022 6:28:37 GMT -5
WILD WEST!!!!!! How much money has Vegas made on the Final Four. I understand the kids position, but wrong way to do it. If he's good enough go play the G league and get paid. Miami basketball isn't Kentucky or Duke. Wait till a school like Stanford gets its boosters to throw down some cash. It'll be the Fab Five all over. The NCAA should give Reggie Bush back his Heisman I think it is the NYC Downtown Athletic Club that does the Heisman,,, but I take your point
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Post by hc1998 on Apr 29, 2022 10:50:00 GMT -5
WILD WEST!!!!!! How much money has Vegas made on the Final Four. I understand the kids position, but wrong way to do it. If he's good enough go play the G league and get paid. Miami basketball isn't Kentucky or Duke. Wait till a school like Stanford gets its boosters to throw down some cash. It'll be the Fab Five all over. The NCAA should give Reggie Bush back his Heisman I think it is the NYC Downtown Athletic Club that does the Heisman,,, but I take your point The DAC closed in the wake of 9/11 and a subsequent bankruptcy...its now the Heisman Trophy Trust that gives it out
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