|
Post by thecrossisback on May 19, 2022 21:30:16 GMT -5
If only lose 1 game to Buffalo. We still should get a top 8 seed. 10-1
|
|
|
Post by nycrusader2010 on May 19, 2022 21:54:14 GMT -5
Its too early for this kind of talk.
|
|
|
Post by hcpride on May 20, 2022 4:33:43 GMT -5
If only lose 1 game to Buffalo. We still should get a top 8 seed. 10-1 Could be. Depends on strength of schedule. Last year, at 9-2, we did not. Given Merrimack’s eventual poor rank (103 Massey) I’m not sure how much a win over them would have helped our cause regarding a seed. Just as the wins over Colgate, Lafayette, Lehigh, Georgetown, and Bucknell (5 other very poorly ranked teams) didn’t move the needle much in that regard.
|
|
|
Post by hc6774 on May 20, 2022 7:35:15 GMT -5
The talk of seeding is premature,,, I think it should begin the week before the Bryant game
|
|
|
Post by hcpride on May 20, 2022 8:02:56 GMT -5
The talk of seeding is premature,,, I think it should begin the week before the Bryant game From the May 4, 2022 article (the topic of the thread): Holy Cross plays two potential conference title winners out of its conference in Harvard and Bryant, which could have the Crusaders in a position to earn a seed come playoff time. That definitely would qualify as a breakout season.
|
|
|
Post by HC92 on May 20, 2022 8:17:26 GMT -5
If we don’t come focused every week and/or have some key injuries, we could certainly wind up in the 7-4 range. Don’t think that will happen but we need the team more focused on the game each week and not looking ahead to playoffs, seeding, etc. Leave the look-ahead stuff on Crossports.
|
|
|
Post by hchoops on May 20, 2022 10:11:36 GMT -5
I believe the team will certainly be focused only on the immediate game ahead. That is all that matters. As for Crossporters, who knows ?
|
|
|
Post by longsuffering on May 20, 2022 10:19:30 GMT -5
We will talk only of the Merrimack game until September.🙂
|
|
|
Post by nycrusader2010 on May 21, 2022 22:23:45 GMT -5
Was that a PL rule or just an HC decision ? The Duffner teams from 86-91 were held back from the playoffs by the PL postseason ban. But if the HC historian in me is correct, even prior to joining the league, we turned down the playoffs on at least 1 occasion during the Carter years because the NCAAs would've conflicted with the BC game Thanksgiving weekend. When we went to the playoffs in '83, losing to Western Carolina, it was only an 8-team field so I think we were able to do both and playoff game was in December.
|
|
|
Post by hcpride on May 22, 2022 8:00:56 GMT -5
Was that a PL rule or just an HC decision ? The Duffner teams from 86-91 were held back from the playoffs by the PL postseason ban. But if the HC historian in me is correct, even prior to joining the league, we turned down the playoffs on at least 1 occasion during the Carter years because the NCAAs would've conflicted with the BC game Thanksgiving weekend. When we went to the playoffs in '83, losing to Western Carolina, it was only an 8-team field so I think we were able to do both and playoff game was in December. 1. '82, '83' and '84 the playoff field was 12 teams. 2. We were very good in each of those Carter years (in fact we hit top 5 in the polls at certain points in each of those years). 3. In '82 (#13 final regular season ranking) and '83 (#3 final regular season ranking) our final game (BC) did not conflict with the I-AA playoffs. We were not invited in '82. 4. In '84 (spent 4 weeks at #2 but plummeted to a #15 final regular season ranking) our final scheduled game (BC) precluded participation in the playoffs. (I don't know if we told the committee not to consider us based on this scheduling conflict and/or we were on the wrong side of the bubble in any case due to two very tough late-season losses.)
|
|
|
Post by hc87 on May 22, 2022 14:11:56 GMT -5
I'm pretty certain it was decided (by whom: admin., coaches/players etc I'm unsure) that going into the '84 season to play BC in lieu of the FCS playoffs.
The '84 BC game was played on 12/1 at Fitton....a little ovah a week after Dougie's "Miracle in Miami." Flutie was helicoptered out of HC to the DAC for the Heisman ceremony after the game ended.
|
|
|
Post by hchoops on May 22, 2022 14:39:35 GMT -5
I was there, along with 20,000+ of my close friends. Wonderful atmosphere.
|
|
|
Post by football44 on May 22, 2022 14:58:19 GMT -5
I was there, along with 20,000+ of my close friends. Wonderful atmosphere. On the sideline with my buddy Jack Scott. (RIP). Loved the man and his beautiful wife.
|
|
|
Post by football44 on May 22, 2022 14:58:36 GMT -5
I was there, along with 20,000+ of my close friends. Wonderful atmosphere. On the sideline with my buddy Jack Scott. (RIP). Loved the man and his beautiful wife.
|
|
|
Post by thecrossisback on May 22, 2022 16:42:03 GMT -5
I'm pretty certain it was decided (by whom: admin., coaches/players etc I'm unsure) that going into the '84 season to play BC in lieu of the FCS playoffs. The '84 BC game was played on 12/1 at Fitton....a little ovah a week after Dougie's "Miracle in Miami." Flutie was helicoptered out of HC to the DAC for the Heisman ceremony after the game ended. Some footage of that game is on youtube. Skip to 7:56
|
|
|
Post by hchoops on May 22, 2022 17:22:02 GMT -5
I was there, along with 20,000+ of my close friends. Wonderful atmosphere. On the sideline with my buddy Jack Scott. (RIP). Loved the man and his beautiful wife. In 1963-64 Jack was so kind to me, (and many others ) as a freshman team lowly member when the head trainer left something to be desired in the warmth category.
|
|
|
Post by longsuffering on May 22, 2022 17:31:21 GMT -5
More empty seats in the Cotton Bowl than at Fitton Field.
|
|
|
Post by hcpride on May 22, 2022 19:14:13 GMT -5
I'm pretty certain it was decided (by whom: admin., coaches/players etc I'm unsure) that going into the '84 season to play BC in lieu of the FCS playoffs. The '84 BC game was played on 12/1 at Fitton....a little ovah a week after Dougie's "Miracle in Miami." Flutie was helicoptered out of HC to the DAC for the Heisman ceremony after the game ended. No doubt. It may be irrelevant but I am not sure we would have been invited in any case given our end-of-season ranking. Despite the presence of some all time great Crusaders (Muldoon, B. McGovern, Fenerty to name just 3) and an otherwise talented 1-AA squad, we were obviously overmatched v the 1-A and 8th ranked BC Eagles. As BC had already beaten nationally ranked squads such as Alabama and Miami that year, the final margin (45-10) was absolutely no surprise. (Nor was the previous year’s 47-7 drubbing).
|
|
|
Post by longsuffering on May 22, 2022 19:38:37 GMT -5
The 1983 BC game at Alumni Stadium must have been on ABC as I remember HC students holding a big "ABC" sign for the network cameras that said:
Ain't we Bowl Conteders, too?
There was still some confusion about the recent separation of D-1 into two subdivisions.
|
|
|
Post by timholycross on May 22, 2022 23:05:29 GMT -5
Pretty sure HC opted out of the playoffs in 1984 even if they finished in the top 4 and would have gotten a bye (therefore not conflicting with the BC game on 12/1). As it turned out, losing two in a row after winning their first 7 (heartbreakers to BU and UNH) would have eliminated the 'Saders anyway. I looked up Western Carolina's schedule the year before to see if they played a game before facing HC. They did. Also, whoever created the WC football website had no idea which Holy Cross the Catamounts played way back when. catamountsports.com/sports/football/schedule/1983
|
|
|
Post by hc87 on May 23, 2022 11:11:48 GMT -5
The 1983 BC game at Alumni Stadium must have been on ABC as I remember HC students holding a big "ABC" sign for the network cameras that said: Ain't we Bowl Conteders, too? There was still some confusion about the recent separation of D-1 into two subdivisions. The '83 BC game was played in Foxboro actually (forget what iteration for the name of the stadium was then....might have been Sullivan Stadium).....for some reason I remember the '83 BC game being originally scheduled to be played at Harvard Stadium. BC played a fair amount of "home" games in the Flutie-era in Foxboro. I think the Harvard idea was scrapped when both schools realized a biggah venue was needed to accomodate the fans for two teams having very good seasons.
|
|
|
Post by hc87 on May 23, 2022 11:18:02 GMT -5
I'm pretty certain it was decided (by whom: admin., coaches/players etc I'm unsure) that going into the '84 season to play BC in lieu of the FCS playoffs. The '84 BC game was played on 12/1 at Fitton....a little ovah a week after Dougie's "Miracle in Miami." Flutie was helicoptered out of HC to the DAC for the Heisman ceremony after the game ended. No doubt. It may be irrelevant but I am not sure we would have been invited in any case given our end-of-season ranking. Despite the presence of some all time great Crusaders (Muldoon, B. McGovern, Fenerty to name just 3) and an otherwise talented 1-AA squad, we were obviously overmatched v the 1-A and 8th ranked BC Eagles. As BC had already beaten nationally ranked squads such as Alabama and Miami that year, the final margin (45-10) was absolutely no surprise. (Nor was the previous year’s 47-7 drubbing). While true....both games were decent games at halftime...it was 17-10 BC at Fitton, can still see Mike Dooley sacking Flutie to end the half. I think it was 10-0 at Foxboro in '83 and we were stuffed inside BC's ten once during the half. Obviously, their depth prevailed in the 2nd halves of both years. Unfortunately, as good as we were then, those were 2 of the bettah BC teams of the 20th C.
|
|
|
Post by longsuffering on May 23, 2022 12:25:06 GMT -5
The 1983 BC game at Alumni Stadium must have been on ABC as I remember HC students holding a big "ABC" sign for the network cameras that said: Ain't we Bowl Conteders, too? There was still some confusion about the recent separation of D-1 into two subdivisions. The '83 BC game was played in Foxboro actually (forget what iteration for the name of the stadium was then....might have been Sullivan Stadium).....for some reason I remember the '83 BC game being originally scheduled to be played at Harvard Stadium. BC played a fair amount of "home" games in the Flutie-era in Foxboro. I think the Harvard idea was scrapped when both schools realized a biggah venue was needed to accomodate the fans for two teams having very good seasons. Perhaps it was the '81 game. Was that at BC, on ABC and was D-1AA in existence in that year and did HC have a good record at the end of the year? All four would have to be true to validate my aging memory.
|
|
|
Post by hc87 on May 23, 2022 12:56:29 GMT -5
The '81 game was at Fitton and was our last season as 1-A/FBS, we went 6-5 and would not have been in the bowl conversation then.....'82 game was at Alumni and may have been on ABC (forget)....BC went to the Tangerine Bowl that year I believe. Not sure if we were eligible for the 1-AA playoffs that (our 1st season in 1-AA)...although good that year, no 1-AA school was getting a bowl bid then. Probably just some HC kids being HC kids.
|
|
|
Post by longsuffering on May 23, 2022 13:27:20 GMT -5
The first season of 1-AA was underwhelming as nothing seemed to change with the Holy Cross schedule.
|
|