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Post by hc6774 on May 23, 2022 14:05:09 GMT -5
The 1983 BC game at Alumni Stadium must have been on ABC as I remember HC students holding a big "ABC" sign for the network cameras that said: Ain't we Bowl Conteders, too? There was still some confusion about the recent separation of D-1 into two subdivisions. The '83 BC game was played in Foxboro actually (forget what iteration for the name of the stadium was then....might have been Sullivan Stadium).....for some reason I remember the '83 BC game being originally scheduled to be played at Harvard Stadium. BC played a fair amount of "home" games in the Flutie-era in Foxboro. I think the Harvard idea was scrapped when both schools realized a biggah venue was needed to accomodate the fans for two teams having very good seasons. IIRC the Sullivan Stadium game was due to the aftermath of a snowstorm that Fitton Field couldn't handle. Harvard Stadium may have been considered as well. |
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Post by timholycross on May 23, 2022 14:06:54 GMT -5
The 1983 BC game at Alumni Stadium must have been on ABC as I remember HC students holding a big "ABC" sign for the network cameras that said: Ain't we Bowl Conteders, too? There was still some confusion about the recent separation of D-1 into two subdivisions. The '83 BC game was played in Foxboro actually (forget what iteration for the name of the stadium was then....might have been Sullivan Stadium).....for some reason I remember the '83 BC game being originally scheduled to be played at Harvard Stadium. BC played a fair amount of "home" games in the Flutie-era in Foxboro. I think the Harvard idea was scrapped when both schools realized a biggah venue was needed to accomodate the fans for two teams having very good seasons. The network (ABC?) decided to carry the game and moved it to the evening....therefore it got moved from Harvard (no lights at the time). Then they moved it back to an afternoon start and didn't switch it back. I think the attendance at Foxboro was around Harvard's capacity; a nice crowd at Schaefer but a full house would have been nicer. Just my opinion and the Foxboro turf at the time was like playing on a parking lot. |
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Post by timholycross on May 23, 2022 14:09:02 GMT -5
The '83 BC game was played in Foxboro actually (forget what iteration for the name of the stadium was then....might have been Sullivan Stadium).....for some reason I remember the '83 BC game being originally scheduled to be played at Harvard Stadium. BC played a fair amount of "home" games in the Flutie-era in Foxboro. I think the Harvard idea was scrapped when both schools realized a biggah venue was needed to accomodate the fans for two teams having very good seasons. IIRC the Sullivan Stadium game was due to the aftermath of a snowstorm that Fitton Field couldn't handle. Harvard Stadium may have been considered as well. There were 2 Foxboro BC/HC games. The one in 1971 was due to snow; one of those storms where the snow line ended abruptly about 20 miles east of The Woo. |
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Post by timholycross on May 23, 2022 14:11:10 GMT -5
The first season of 1-AA was underwhelming as nothing seemed to change with the Holy Cross schedule. 82 I believe was the first 1AA season and a loss to Harvard cost the Saders a playoff berth. The BC game was win or go home, and clearly we weren't up to the challenge. Flutie threw a td bomb on their first play from scrimmage. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 23, 2022 14:23:17 GMT -5
As I recall the 1971 game, I was back home in
Portland for Thanksgiving break. My friend Larry’s father, an alum, had tickets and got a call from the athletic department telling him the game had been moved to Foxboro, so four of us drove down to Foxboro for the game
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Post by hcpride on May 23, 2022 14:49:56 GMT -5
The first season of 1-AA was underwhelming as nothing seemed to change with the Holy Cross schedule. Agreed, our last couple of 1-A years ('80 and '81) and our first couple of 1-AA years ('82 and '83) featured VERY similar opponents. Personally, I would have ditched the BC game once we were 1-AA. Instead of having it linger for five more (unfortunate and one-sided, IMHO) games. |
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Post by longsuffering on May 23, 2022 15:46:52 GMT -5
The first season of 1-AA was underwhelming as nothing seemed to change with the Holy Cross schedule. Agreed, our last couple of 1-A years ('80 and '81) and our first couple of 1-AA years ('82 and '83) featured VERY similar opponents. Personally, I would have ditched the BC game once we were 1-AA. Instead of having it linger for five more (unfortunate and one-sided, IMHO) games. But glad we got to see Flutie on the afternoon of his Heisman win and also those games must have been good revenue providers for the Athletic Dept. For my parents who passed away in '86 and '91, Doug Flutie was their Tom Brady and Big Papi all rolled into one. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 24, 2022 11:31:37 GMT -5
Sluka gets BC as a senior. We'll be graduating a ton of defensive studs at end of this coming season, however.
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Post by hc87 on May 24, 2022 12:01:05 GMT -5
Sluka gets BC as a senior. We'll be graduating a ton of defensive studs at end of this coming season, however. Yeah, the timing of our playing or not playing BC since the '80s has been sub-optimal....not playing in '87, not playing this year etc. Not saying we would have won in either of these years (though I'll wondah about '87 until my deathbed lol) just that we would have been pretty competitive against BC those years imo. |
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Post by hc87 on May 24, 2022 12:12:54 GMT -5
The first season of 1-AA was underwhelming as nothing seemed to change with the Holy Cross schedule. Agreed, our last couple of 1-A years ('80 and '81) and our first couple of 1-AA years ('82 and '83) featured VERY similar opponents. Personally, I would have ditched the BC game once we were 1-AA. Instead of having it linger for five more (unfortunate and one-sided, IMHO) games. The BC game basically became one-sided starting in the late 1960s (and yes, I know '77 and '78 and a few close games from 1967-1981). BC basically "went" FBS in the 1970s playing the likes of Texas, Florida St etc. whereas we remained 1-A in name only, gradually dropping the likes of Syracuse, Temple, Rutgers as the decade wore on. We were basically playing a "1-AA" schedule from the mid-1970s on. Ironically, we became bettah for awhile after dropping from 1-A to 1-AA largely due to the improvements in coaching/investment etc. in the program starting under Rick Carter. Those improvements however ended when we finally stopped giving scholarships after the 1991 season. |
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Post by sader1970 on May 24, 2022 12:54:59 GMT -5
Thought this was supposed to be a forward looking thread instead of rehashing the BC rivalry and where our two roads diverged. Good discussion but perhaps better in a separate thread.
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Post by mm67 on May 24, 2022 13:53:19 GMT -5
Sometimes the truth hurts.
A rivalry implies competitive games. By the time the series ended, HC was no longer truly a rival of BC. In fact, the game was far more important to us than it was to BC. A BC good friend marveled at the competitive spirit of the fans of decidedly overmatched HC team. And, his observation was not negative in any way.
Agree, the discussion would perhaps be better on a separate thread.
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Post by longsuffering on May 24, 2022 13:58:02 GMT -5
Sometimes the truth hurts. A rivalry implies competitive games. By the time the series ended, HC was no longer truly a rival of BC. In fact, the game was far more important to us than it was to BC. A BC good friend marveled at the competitive spirit of the fans of decidedly overmatched HC team. And, his observation was not negative in any way. Agree, the discussion would perhaps be better on a separate thread. Which program is currently on a more upward trajectory? |
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Post by hcpride on May 25, 2022 3:55:53 GMT -5
Sluka gets BC as a senior. We'll be graduating a ton of defensive studs at end of this coming season, however. Since we played 3 QBs and BC played 3 QBs in the 66-14 debacle, I’m guessing quite a few QBs get into the game. Including Sluka (if he’s available). |
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Post by hcpride on May 25, 2022 4:10:11 GMT -5
Sometimes the truth hurts. A rivalry implies competitive games. By the time the series ended, HC was no longer truly a rival of BC. In fact, the game was far more important to us than it was to BC. A BC good friend marveled at the competitive spirit of the fans of decidedly overmatched HC team. And, his observation was not negative in any way. Agree, the discussion would perhaps be better on a separate thread. Which program is currently on a more upward trajectory? Inasmuch as BC may very well be underdogs in several games (including Florida State, Clemson, and Notre Dame) this year and we may be favored in ALL of our (FCS) games this year you may be on to something there. 😀 |
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