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Post by sader1970 on May 13, 2022 9:36:16 GMT -5
bbc, since he did not respond to my email guesses "khughes" and "chughes," joke or not, it is good to see a public email address that someone will respond to (presumably) since he didn't respond to either of the other two.
Would I be wrong in assuming that you are not as big of supporter of Kit as Brett? Thought you'd be a big fan that Kit didn't come in a terminate Brett. Another new AD might have come in and made his mark by canning the high profile sport coach who had a woeful record.
As for me, I'm an agnostic on Kit at this point.
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Post by trimster on May 13, 2022 10:11:17 GMT -5
One bit of news from the webinar. Kit said that 50 PL men's basketball players had entered the portal. And about 2,000 Div I basketball players, (which is an average of 5.7 per school). Paraphrasing greatly, this turnover has de-stabilized men's basketball, and the NCAA is going to do something about it this summer. As for NIL, rules and guidelines, 'guardrails' he called them, are coming as well. I suspect that he was speaking for his fellow ADs, when he said, and I'm paraphrasing, that the worst fears are being realized. FWIW, I just counted 24 PL men's transfers in Verbal Commits. Looks like half are grad transfers. I think HC led with 5, 4 of whom are undergrads.
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Post by bringbackcaro on May 13, 2022 10:11:37 GMT -5
bbc, since he did not respond to my email guesses "khughes" and "chughes," joke or not, it is good to see a public email address that someone will respond to (presumably) since he didn't respond to either of the other two. Would I be wrong in assuming that you are not as big of supporter of Kit as Brett? Thought you'd be a big fan that Kit didn't come in a terminate Brett. Another new AD might have come in and made his mark by canning the high profile sport coach who had a woeful record. As for me, I'm an agnostic on Kit at this point. 1) Re: underlined sentence, I am a supporter of giving Brett a reasonable chance to succeed, and not continuing our endless cycle of hiring and firing coaches every coupe years. This year is HCBN's chance to succeed, and he should be judged accordingly. Just because I haven't completely written him off and jumped on the pig pile around here does not mean I am a huge fan of him or anything like that (hell, I said I was ready to move on and bring in Tom Crean when it looked like there might be another mass exodus this offseason). 2) Very few ADs would have had the guts to come in and fire HCBN from Kit's position 2-3 months into the job, and without having a chance to do any type of due diligence on what they could bring in as a replacement. As an AD, you are then immediately tying your success to that of the new coach. Based on HC's recent track record in coaching searches, that would not be a good place to be as an AD. Better off waiting a year and if things still aren't better, you'll be able to make a change then and will be no worse for the wear. 3) In general, I have grown very sour on this new AD profile of young guys who have never accomplished anything and have no ties to Holy Cross. The last two jokesters got to HC and to their next job because of their networking abilities rather than because of actually producing results. I hope Kit doesn't fall into that same bucket, but I have to say I am disappointed in what I read about last night's presentation and the fact that he's already wasting HC's time on meaningless, self-important NCAA committees. HC AD's priorities should be: 1) MBB & Football 2) All other HC sports 3) Campus relations 4) Fundraising 5) Community Relations When those things are in order, then you can go dink around on NCAA committees.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 13, 2022 12:47:34 GMT -5
Will you be as patient with AD Hughes as you have been with Coach Nelson?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 13, 2022 13:02:14 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 13, 2022 13:13:04 GMT -5
athleticdirector@holycross.edu sounds like a monitored mailbox, monitored by one of Kit's assistants. The address is too generic, and does not distinguish between the incumbent and his/her predecessors.
I would suggest emailing Cara Abraham.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 13, 2022 13:19:56 GMT -5
One bit of news from the webinar. Kit said that 50 PL men's basketball players had entered the portal. And about 2,000 Div I basketball players, (which is an average of 5.7 per school). Paraphrasing greatly, this turnover has de-stabilized men's basketball, and the NCAA is going to do something about it this summer. As for NIL, rules and guidelines, 'guardrails' he called them, are coming as well. I suspect that he was speaking for his fellow ADs, when he said, and I'm paraphrasing, that the worst fears are being realized. FWIW, I just counted 24 PL men's transfers in Verbal Commits. Looks like half are grad transfers. I think HC led with 5, 4 of whom are undergrads. Kit was quickly tossing out numbers, he clearly was/is keeping track. There was a number of 5,000 or so, 2,000 being Div I. X number had entered the portal as of April 1, an additional Y by the end of April. He then compared the number in the portal with the roster count for all Div I hoops. This was all off the top of his head. He clearly intended to leave the impression that HC was not an outlier.
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Post by longsuffering on May 13, 2022 13:50:56 GMT -5
Enter the portal at your own risk from HC. You really leave much of the value of Holy Cross on the table if you leave midstream. It's not like our little college is a cookie cutter North/West/South/East State U. in a state with multiple 10,000+ student regional State Universities.
For better or worse, Holy Cross is one of a kind.
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Post by Tom on May 13, 2022 14:04:35 GMT -5
athleticdirector@holycross.edu sounds like a monitored mailbox, monitored by one of Kit's assistants. The address is too generic, and does not distinguish between the incumbent and his/her predecessors. I would suggest emailing Cara Abraham. With our 3rd AD in the last 3 years, maybe it's easier to leave it at athleticdirector than keep changing addresses every time HC changes AD's
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Post by longsuffering on May 13, 2022 14:38:16 GMT -5
Let's say alumnus John O'Smith becomes wealthy, endows the AD position and retires to Hawaii. He'd be schlepping to Worcester once a year for the press conference introducing the new John and Mary O'Smith '60 Family Athletic Director. And his children after him.
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Post by sader1970 on May 17, 2022 16:55:30 GMT -5
While I have yet to see the replay of the full interview with Kit, he sent out about a 10 minute supplemental video to cover some of the questions he didn't get to. Here's a link: www.givecampus.com/schools/CollegeoftheHolyCross/videos/pc-insider-webinar-kit-hughes-bonus-footageLast question was kudos to the 90-wide program but the 2nd question addressed the basketball program and apparently he's heard from the alums and fans about the men's basketball program. Short on specifics but judge for yourselves" Edit: Here's the link to the full interview:
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 17, 2022 17:48:55 GMT -5
Regarding men’s basketball, his answer begins at the word “Keenly”…didn’t really hear much before that.
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Post by sader1970 on May 19, 2022 6:59:52 GMT -5
Anyone else disappointed or surprised at Kit's comments about basketball?
I'm a little tired hearing how the staff is excited and confident (my take, not their specific words) as we've heard that for 3 years now. Kit's made the decision to keep Nelson at least one more year, so I guess he really can't say anything other than what he said. My hope is that behind closed doors he's quietly told Nelson "This is it buddy. Last bite of the apple. If you have similar results as the last 3 years, you're gone the day after the season ends."
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 19, 2022 8:18:05 GMT -5
Anyone else disappointed or surprised at Kit's comments about basketball? I'm a little tired hearing how the staff is excited and confident (my take, not their specific words) as we've heard that for 3 years now. Kit's made the decision to keep Nelson at least one more year, so I guess he really can't say anything other than what he said. My hope is that behind closed doors he's quietly told Nelson "This is it buddy. Last bite of the apple. If you have similar results as the last 3 years, you're gone the day after the season ends." An impossible question to answer and topic to touch. I think ADKH was very calculated with his words and actually didn't do a terrible job. If he says that the future is very bright and he's excited about Nelson leading the program, then we know he's being disingenuous. If he publicly crushes Nelson saying the results are unacceptable and a change in leadership is needed, then the question becomes: "Why didn't you fire him?" Watch the video again. You can hear a change in tone when he mentions how "Keenly" aware he is about how important basketball is at HC. Reading the tea leaves, it's pretty clear to me he's saying that anything worse than a .500 record and Nelson will be shown the door. The one part that did irk me on his answer with regard to men's basketball was ADKH referencing "consistent support" -- has Nelson not been receiving this? Compared to the other nine PL schools, I'd argue HC is in the top three (maybe top two alongside Bucknell) as it relates to support.
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Post by gks on May 19, 2022 8:19:35 GMT -5
Anyone else disappointed or surprised at Kit's comments about basketball? I'm a little tired hearing how the staff is excited and confident (my take, not their specific words) as we've heard that for 3 years now. Kit's made the decision to keep Nelson at least one more year, so I guess he really can't say anything other than what he said. My hope is that behind closed doors he's quietly told Nelson "This is it buddy. Last bite of the apple. If you have similar results as the last 3 years, you're gone the day after the season ends." An impossible question to answer and topic to touch. I think ADKH was very calculated with his words and actually didn't do a terrible job. If he says that the future is very bright and he's excited about Nelson leading the program, then we know he's being disingenuous. If he publicly crushes Nelson saying the results are unacceptable and a change in leadership is needed, then the question becomes: "Why didn't you fire him?" Watch the video again. You can hear a change in tone when he mentions how "Keenly" aware he is about how important basketball is at HC. Reading the tea leaves, it's pretty clear to me he's saying that anything worse than a .500 record and Nelson will be shown the door. The one part that did irk me on his answer with regard to men's basketball was ADKH referencing "consistent support" -- has Nelson not been receiving this? Compared to the other nine PL schools, I'd argue HC is in the top three (maybe top two alongside Bucknell) as it relates to support. Support is a vague word. Monetarily I would agree the support is there. Facilities it's there. Maybe he's referring to support from somewhere else. I don't know....just speculating.
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Post by sader1970 on May 19, 2022 8:30:05 GMT -5
Yes, that's why he said what he said. Having kept Nelson, he had no choice but to try to make a silk purse from a sow's ear. But it turns my stomach hearing the B.S. about the coaching staff is "enthusiastic" about the future. That's subjective on Kit's part and self-serving on Nelson's part. Wonder what R.J. Evans really thinks?
Perhaps if he just started at your "keenly" and skipped the stuff before it. Nice that Kit "gets" it about the frustration of the alums/fans/students(?) and maybe the players who stayed.
BTW, he chose to answer this question rather than my more specific one which essentially asked WHEN will we see improvement.
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