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Post by hchoops on May 23, 2022 14:20:11 GMT -5
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 23, 2022 15:32:33 GMT -5
Did they receive any other offers besides HC?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 23, 2022 15:39:14 GMT -5
When I look at Jade Tse’s stats from HBU I think of Dee Goens….
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Post by longsuffering on May 23, 2022 15:59:03 GMT -5
When I look at Jade Tse's stats from Deerfield I feel good about him as a freshman recruit. Throw in three more years of experience and I feel very good.
He averaged over 22 points per game at Deerfield. Our highly regarded WBB point guard is arriving at age 17 or 18 having averaged in the mid single digits in scoring as a HS senior.
I know she's going to receive good coaching but doesn't have Jade's experience.
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Post by longsuffering on May 23, 2022 16:05:02 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on May 23, 2022 16:13:37 GMT -5
As I have written, he played off guard to Cole Anthony.
Also 7’ Moses Brown ( NBA) and Khalid Moore ( Ga Tech) )
He rarely got to shoot or touch the ball. Except when Anthony was out
Thus minimal stats
He went to Deerfield to play the point
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Post by hchoops on May 23, 2022 16:20:18 GMT -5
When I look at Jade Tse's stats from Deerfield I feel good about him as a freshman recruit. Throw in three more years of experience and I feel very good. He averaged over 22 points per game at Deerfield. Our highly regarded WBB point guard is arriving at age 17 or 18 having averaged in the mid single digits in scoring as a HS senior. I know she's going to receive good coaching but doesn't have Jade's experience. When a player has been out of prep school for 3 years, his prep stats mean far less than his two college seasons |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 23, 2022 16:26:44 GMT -5
When I look at Jade Tse's stats from Deerfield I feel good about him as a freshman recruit. Throw in three more years of experience and I feel very good. He averaged over 22 points per game at Deerfield. Our highly regarded WBB point guard is arriving at age 17 or 18 having averaged in the mid single digits in scoring as a HS senior. I know she's going to receive good coaching but doesn't have Jade's experience. How do you reconcile that optimism with his sub-optimal production at Houston Baptist? I should think his recent college seasons would be a better predictor of his future HC performances than his earlier high school or prep school record. Edit: Looks like I was typing at same time as hchoops |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 23, 2022 16:28:42 GMT -5
When I look at Jade Tse's stats from Deerfield I feel good about him as a freshman recruit. Throw in three more years of experience and I feel very good. He averaged over 22 points per game at Deerfield. Our highly regarded WBB point guard is arriving at age 17 or 18 having averaged in the mid single digits in scoring as a HS senior. I know she's going to receive good coaching but doesn't have Jade's experience. You should pay more attention to how he fared in a D1 conference in 2021-22 where he was a poor shooter and had more turnovers than assists, rather than a so-so prep school league in 2018-19. |
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Post by hchoops on May 23, 2022 16:33:30 GMT -5
He played in NYC A New Jersey site will have little |
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Post by bison137 on May 23, 2022 16:45:58 GMT -5
When I look at Jade Tse's stats from Deerfield I feel good about him as a freshman recruit. Throw in three more years of experience and I feel very good. He averaged over 22 points per game at Deerfield. Our highly regarded WBB point guard is arriving at age 17 or 18 having averaged in the mid single digits in scoring as a HS senior. I know she's going to receive good coaching but doesn't have Jade's experience. FWIW, I think it’s safe to say that Flanagan was a better high school player than was Tse -regardless of the scoring averages. One made first team all-state in Class 6A (largest class), while the other was an honorable mention in class A (third largest) of his own prep league. |
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 23, 2022 16:56:19 GMT -5
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Post by bringbackcaro on May 23, 2022 18:07:20 GMT -5
When I look at Jade Tse's stats from Deerfield I feel good about him as a freshman recruit. Throw in three more years of experience and I feel very good. He averaged over 22 points per game at Deerfield. Our highly regarded WBB point guard is arriving at age 17 or 18 having averaged in the mid single digits in scoring as a HS senior. I know she's going to receive good coaching but doesn't have Jade's experience. You should pay more attention to how he fared in a D1 conference in 2021-22 where he was a poor shooter and had more turnovers than assists, rather than a so-so prep school league in 2018-19. Out of curiosity, did you look at Houston Baptist/their coach’s KenPom history at all? A pretty dreadful, turnover-prone outfit virtually every year. |
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 23, 2022 18:11:43 GMT -5
Here is a link to a Houston Baptist Basketball game vs Texas A&M Corpus Christi.
You can view the game to get a picture of Jade running the point.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 23, 2022 18:25:03 GMT -5
You should pay more attention to how he fared in a D1 conference in 2021-22 where he was a poor shooter and had more turnovers than assists, rather than a so-so prep school league in 2018-19. Out of curiosity, did you look at Houston Baptist/their coach’s KenPom history at all? A pretty dreadful, turnover-prone outfit virtually every year. Nope, just saw 72 assists to 74 turnovers and called it a day. The shooting percentages are more alarming for me, though. If we were littered with shooters, I'd feel better about Tse, but putting another guy on the floor who can't shoot the ball isn't great. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 23, 2022 18:31:58 GMT -5
You should pay more attention to how he fared in a D1 conference in 2021-22 where he was a poor shooter and had more turnovers than assists, rather than a so-so prep school league in 2018-19. Out of curiosity, did you look at Houston Baptist/their coach’s KenPom history at all? A pretty dreadful, turnover-prone outfit virtually every year. Are you suggesting that he’ll be ready for Coach Nelson? |
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Post by dharry13 on May 23, 2022 18:45:01 GMT -5
To answer your question Sons of Vaval. No - neither guy had much if any interest from other schools based on Twitter posts.
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Post by longsuffering on May 23, 2022 18:45:01 GMT -5
Ouch 🙂. Luc could shoot but did he make any player better?
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Post by mm67 on May 23, 2022 19:01:59 GMT -5
Most assuredly the great coach, Jack Curran must be "rolling over" in his grave. "Sic Transit Gloria" Damn! |
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Post by sader1970 on May 23, 2022 19:44:41 GMT -5
So, ignore the stats, it's all the little things you just can't quite describe . . . . as Col. Potter used to say " HORSE HOCKEY!"  |
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Post by deep Purple on May 23, 2022 20:00:56 GMT -5
Ouch 🙂. Luc could shoot but did he make any player better? With 83 turnovers? |
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Post by longsuffering on May 23, 2022 20:27:48 GMT -5
Ouch 🙂. Luc could shoot but did he make any player better? With 83 turnovers? In Luc's first D-1 year he had 83 turnovers to 74 assists. Tse regressed last year and had two more turnovers than assists, but his first year in D-1 (2020-21) he had 79 assists to only 49 turnovers. Perhaps the players who could catch the ball graduated or transferred. It's hard to tell from afar what the internal circumstances are on a college basketball team these days. Despite the explosion of social media, players publicly airing grievances has become like touching the third rail of a subway system. With the portal, players are leaving colleges before graduation in record numbers but seldom is heard a discouraging word. It seems like coaches might say things like "he was in the system for three years but he didn't get it," but you don't hear players safely signed by their new school, saying things like "my former coach couldn't teach a fish how to swim." We have to hope our incoming transfers were the best available in the portal at their position that HC basketball could sign and the coaches have fully vetted the reasons they transferred. |
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Post by HC92 on May 23, 2022 20:38:37 GMT -5
I hope both guys are great for HC and help lead the revival of HC hoops. If the revival doesn’t start in earnest in 2022-23, both will be playing for a new coach in 2023-24. It is what it is.
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Post by bringbackcaro on May 23, 2022 20:40:04 GMT -5
To answer your question Sons of Vaval. No - neither guy had much if any interest from other schools based on Twitter posts. Fixing this sentence for you: Neither guy promoted interest from other schools on their personal twitter accounts, or used media members to promote interest. (Tse's tweets a protected/private)The idea that Holy Cross was the only school interested in both of these guys is laughable, even for the staunchest haters. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 23, 2022 20:54:16 GMT -5
To answer your question Sons of Vaval. No - neither guy had much if any interest from other schools based on Twitter posts. Fixing this sentence for you: Neither guy promoted interest from other schools on their personal twitter accounts, or used media members to promote interest. (Tse's tweets a protected/private)The idea that Holy Cross was the only school interested in both of these guys is laughable, even for the staunchest haters. Perhaps these gentlemen are more humble than others. That being said, there's no sugar coating the fact that we were one of the last dogs at the bowl this recruiting season. Definitely tough given the recent revolving door and Nelson's contract situation. I project that our 3 transfers roughly wind up being Dee Goens 2.0, Greg McCarthy 2.0 and hopefully Rob Champion 2.0. And hoping that they stay thru graduation and are part of the greatest turnaround in program history. |
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