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Post by bison137 on Oct 7, 2022 13:50:04 GMT -5
The games against Carleton, which Carleton, Carleton College, Northfield MN or Carleton University, Ottawa Ontario? I would assume it is the Ottawa one which is a very good program. Yes, definitely the one from Canada. In the past they have often been very good. This year it doesn’t appear they are at that level but they have already played Florida State and Oregon, among others. A few years ago they beat Mississippi and Cincinnati back to back. They also have fairly recent wins over Providence, Vanderbilt twice, Alabama, etc. .
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Post by Tom on Oct 7, 2022 13:57:43 GMT -5
Even if it were a regular season game against Brown, it would be "closed" to you Why? Brown is a client of mine Just me taking a cheap, unsolicited shot at NAD. A few years ago, Dave and two other fans were chastised by Brown fans for actively cheering for HC in their building
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 7, 2022 14:08:51 GMT -5
One of the most enjoyable games. Believe there is a photo of NAD on the bulletin board of Pizzatola for Brown security to keep out. My wife was an employee at Brown at the time. She may have been the difference of NAD not being ejected. Believe it was the 2004 game which we won 84-71. For those with better memories, wasn't this the game Keith Simmons hit for like 30 points?
I think what chapped off the Brown co-eds was we probably had more Crusader fans than they had and definitely louder. NAD might have vigorously debated a couple of questionable calls with the refs.
Edit: Just looked it up. Memory still not bad: Simmons 11/14 FGs, 6/6 3 Pt FGs. 2/2/ FTs, 30 point, 5 rebs, 2 assists and 2 steals.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 7, 2022 14:16:58 GMT -5
I thought this game was during the FHCSK era? We beat Brown in OT that year for one of his three OOC wins.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Oct 7, 2022 15:02:35 GMT -5
You are correct, SoV.....I believe that was numero uno win for FCSK; I think an overtime affair. I always thought that was one of Dick Regan's finest hours as AD, the way he quickly came to our defense, and pretty much told those girls to take a hike!
sader1970 - it's funny you mention that Simmons 30 point game, as I was at that one as well.....and wouldn't you know, some older guys gave me some crap that game as well!
Gotta love the Pizz!
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Post by purplehaze on Oct 7, 2022 15:38:12 GMT -5
I heard from a reliable source that Hartford still is short many games as they play an independent schedule while transitioning to D.3 - Kit should have scheduled them as a D.1 game instead of the D.3 games. Things are crazy in Hartford as Gallagher is still listed at the head coach even though he just sued the school for misinformation directed his way that the D.3 rumors were wrong while he turned down other opportunities
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Oct 7, 2022 16:14:48 GMT -5
^
Coach does the scheduling in BB, not the AD.
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Post by res on Oct 7, 2022 16:21:14 GMT -5
I have an idea: how about regular season games against UMass and Brown, and scrimmages against Dean and Colby Sawyer? I know you're just making a point, NAD, but you can play Dean and Colby Sawyer in the regular season and you can play them in exhibitions, but closed scrimmages are limited to D1 only.
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Post by bison137 on Oct 7, 2022 17:21:03 GMT -5
I have an idea: how about regular season games against UMass and Brown, and scrimmages against Dean and Colby Sawyer? I know you're just making a point, NAD, but you can play Dean and Colby Sawyer in the regular season and you can play them in exhibitions, but closed scrimmages are limited to D1 only. While no one ever plays a closed scrimmage against a D2/D3 team, I don’t think there’s anything in the NCAA rules to prohibit it.
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Post by DiMarz on Oct 7, 2022 21:03:53 GMT -5
Jeff Goodman reporting tonight that UMass will play a scrimmage at Holy Cross on October 30.. Posted on the UMass message board tonight..
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Post by hchoops on Oct 7, 2022 21:12:16 GMT -5
Foley beat you to it on Page 27.
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Post by timholycross on Oct 8, 2022 10:31:36 GMT -5
NAD's situation reminds me of the late, great John Meegan who 20+ years after it happened, would not set foot in Rose Hill Gym as he thought they'd kick him out.
John got on the bad side of a ref who ordered him banished. Some priest who had previously been at HC saved him from ejection; but John felt afterwards he was persona non grata there.
I used to say to him, "John, there's no way they'd recognize you now; and the chances the same people run the place are pretty slim as well!" Didn't matter to him.
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Post by HC92 on Oct 8, 2022 10:44:57 GMT -5
I’m recalling a situation in the late 80s where there was some sort of fracas involving the mascots. I think the offensive and violent Crusader ripped the head off the Ram to reveal the young woman inside. Then a Fordham fan came to the Ewe’s defense. Am I remembering this correctly?
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Oct 8, 2022 11:32:41 GMT -5
I’m recalling a situation in the late 80s where there was some sort of fracas involving the mascots. I think the offensive and violent Crusader ripped the head off the Ram to reveal the young woman inside. Then a Fordham fan came to the Ewe’s defense. Am I remembering this correctly? That's exactly how I remember it.
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Post by trimster on Oct 12, 2022 7:15:49 GMT -5
Jeff Goodman reporting tonight that UMass will play a scrimmage at Holy Cross on October 30.. Posted on the UMass message board tonight.. After looking at the PL Secret Scrimmage schedule, I’d say we have the best one in the league so we have that going for us.
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Post by DiMarz on Oct 12, 2022 20:36:23 GMT -5
Jeff Goodman reporting tonight that UMass will play a scrimmage at Holy Cross on October 30.. Posted on the UMass message board tonight.. After looking at the PL Secret Scrimmage schedule, I’d say we have the best one in the league so we have that going for us. As a former HS coach, it is always good to have some tough scrimmages to see what you have as far as toughness and hard workers out there, and a few easy ones to get everybody on the court against a different team. Plus to see what every player can add to the team on both ends of the court. So our scrimmages and OOC schedule does that....Remember, HC isn't going to get a bid to the dance unless they win the PL....The wins in the OOC are nice, but at the end of the season, they really don't mean much. If the program can build itself up, then they may mean more...
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Post by efg72 on Oct 12, 2022 21:01:22 GMT -5
So far we haven’t learned much
But there always is hope that this year it will change
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Post by hchoops on Oct 12, 2022 21:06:54 GMT -5
After looking at the PL Secret Scrimmage schedule, I’d say we have the best one in the league so we have that going for us. As a former HS coach, it is always good to have some tough scrimmages to see what you have as far as toughness and hard workers out there, and a few easy ones to get everybody on the court against a different team. Plus to see what every player can add to the team on both ends of the court. So our scrimmages and OOC schedule does that....Remember, HC isn't going to get a bid to the dance unless they win the PL....The wins in the OOC are nice, but at the end of the season, they really don't mean much. If the program can build itself up, then they may mean more... Fine, but were your easy contests very much lower than you in class, league, athleticism, skill level, etc ?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 13, 2022 12:01:07 GMT -5
After looking at the PL Secret Scrimmage schedule, I’d say we have the best one in the league so we have that going for us. As a former HS coach, it is always good to have some tough scrimmages to see what you have as far as toughness and hard workers out there, and a few easy ones to get everybody on the court against a different team. Plus to see what every player can add to the team on both ends of the court. So our scrimmages and OOC schedule does that....Remember, HC isn't going to get a bid to the dance unless they win the PL....The wins in the OOC are nice, but at the end of the season, they really don't mean much. If the program can build itself up, then they may mean more... I'm in the minority that I don't think this year's schedule is that bad. A lot of local games, a tourney in metro NY and a bunch that could be winnable if we're even a slightly below average PL team. I'd probably have stuck with just one sub-DI game as opposed to two...but that's been discussed adnauseum already.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 13, 2022 12:05:57 GMT -5
I agree ny, of course any schedule can look good before the games are played.
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Post by DiMarz on Oct 13, 2022 15:30:33 GMT -5
As a former HS coach, it is always good to have some tough scrimmages to see what you have as far as toughness and hard workers out there, and a few easy ones to get everybody on the court against a different team. Plus to see what every player can add to the team on both ends of the court. So our scrimmages and OOC schedule does that....Remember, HC isn't going to get a bid to the dance unless they win the PL....The wins in the OOC are nice, but at the end of the season, they really don't mean much. If the program can build itself up, then they may mean more... Fine, but were your easy contests very much lower than you in class, league, athleticism, skill level, etc ? Yes, that is what I wanted! Build some self confidence. Get the winning feeling. Get everybody some positive playing time, it does a lot of good mentally! If one plays a lot of unwinable games, the players get discouraged, and don’t have a good self image. Very hard to shake that!
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Post by hchoops on Oct 13, 2022 16:05:49 GMT -5
There is a huge difference between unwinnable and the 2 low D3 teams we are playing. There are many low D1 and D2 teams we could have played that we would have been heavily favored in, Those two games are no good for either team, the schools and certainly the fans,
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Post by DiMarz on Oct 13, 2022 20:24:08 GMT -5
There is a huge difference between unwinnable and the 2 low D3 teams we are playing. There are many low D1 and D2 teams we could have played that we would have been heavily favored in, Those two games are no good for either team, the schools and certainly the fans, It's not easy to find a dance partner! Ask Coach Willard.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 13, 2022 20:30:06 GMT -5
There is a huge difference between unwinnable and the 2 low D3 teams we are playing. There are many low D1 and D2 teams we could have played that we would have been heavily favored in, Those two games are no good for either team, the schools and certainly the fans, It's not easy to find a dance partner! Ask Coach Willard. Potential opponents feared losing to us then.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 13, 2022 20:48:35 GMT -5
It's not easy to find a dance partner! Ask Coach Willard. Potential opponents feared losing to us then. My 4 years at HC were the first 4 years since forever that we didn't play BC in Men's Basketball. And 07-08 was the infamous year that UCONN decided last minute they didn't want to be in our Preseason NIT bracket, begging tourney organizers to send us to Oklahoma. And then Willard pulled out, forcing the NIT to bring in a D2 team to fill that spot.
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