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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 17, 2022 8:50:33 GMT -5
Dr. Eli David is an Israeli computer scientist, he is not a physician nor does he have a background in public health. He is an anti-vaxxer, and before creating a meme about Fauci, he picked on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada. Whether he is a member of an ultra-orthodox Jewish sect whose members resist any vaccination, e.g., a recent measles outbreak in Brooklyn with Israeli roots, I know not. ------------------------ The efficacy of the mRNA vaccines at preventing symptomatic infection is about 95 percent, with efficacy diminishing over time. Hence boosters. 95 percent is not 100 percent, and there is no vaccine that is 100 percent effective against infection by an infectious agent, e.g., the smallpox vaccine is only 95 percent effective; one dose of the measles vaccine is 93 percent effective. No responsible public health official, and that includes Fauci, would ever claim 100 percent efficacy for any vaccine. --------------- At Holy Cross, there were about 320 cases (staff and students) prior to the start of the fall semester August 2021, and about 1,500 cases since the end of August. Obviously, a high percentage of a campus population that was fully vaccinated and boostered and tested positive. And from the data, it seems that a high percentage of those who were infected were asymptomatic. Four staff tested positive between June 10 and June 16. No student positives. How many students would 100% negative encompass between June 10 and 16? Between June 3 and June 16, HC performed 650 tests, with 12 positives. None of the positives were students. There are students on campus helping with reunions, summer internships, the football team, etc. About 20-25 students met with Fauci. I assume these particular students were tested before meeting with Fauci. Given that only staff who would be accessing campus, and potentially in contact with campus visitors would be tested, I will guess that at least half the tests were of students.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 17, 2022 8:53:02 GMT -5
Dr. Eli David is an Israeli computer scientist, he is not a physician nor does he have a background in public health. He is an anti-vaxxer, and before creating a meme about Fauci, he picked on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada. Whether he is a member of an ultra-orthodox Jewish sect whose members resist any vaccination, e.g., a recent measles outbreak in Brooklyn with Israeli roots, I know not. Did he doctor Dr. F's words?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 17, 2022 9:03:46 GMT -5
Dr. Eli David is an Israeli computer scientist, he is not a physician nor does he have a background in public health. He is an anti-vaxxer, and before creating a meme about Fauci, he picked on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada. Whether he is a member of an ultra-orthodox Jewish sect whose members resist any vaccination, e.g., a recent measles outbreak in Brooklyn with Israeli roots, I know not. Did he doctor Dr. F's words? The tweet distorted Fauci's voice and mouth, and was so short that there was no associated context. I can't find the MSNBC interview, but this link is a Factcheck of a Fauci claim on CNN about not getting infected, similar to the supposed claim in the MSNBC clip. www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/mar/08/instagram-posts/misleading-video-suggests-dr-anthony-fauci-said-va/
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 9:09:00 GMT -5
SOV. I hope you you weren't part of the Fauci protest outside the college.But then again
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 17, 2022 9:30:23 GMT -5
Scroll to 3:26. (Although, there are some juicy nuggets before that are worth listening to, as well... "When you're vaccinated the chances of transmitting it to someone else is exceedingly low." This is just not true.) Don't believe MSNBC distorted anything here. So much of what Fauci shares here has proven to be very wrong. Almost like he is a shill for pharmaceutical companies.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 17, 2022 11:27:57 GMT -5
Scroll to 3:26. (Although, there are some juicy nuggets before that are worth listening to, as well... "When you're vaccinated the chances of transmitting it to someone else is exceedingly low." This is just not true.) Don't believe MSNBC distorted anything here. So much of what Fauci shares here has proven to be very wrong. Almost like he is a shill for pharmaceutical companies. First, thank you for the link. Second, the interview was in March 2021, which antedates the rise of the variants. The variants have become increasingly infectious, particularly compared to the original 'wild' variant. Delta was twice as infectious as the original variant. Omicron's, early variants, were 2-4x more infectious than Delta. Omicron BA-2 is 1.4x more transmissible than BA-1. BA-4 and BA-5 are ten percent more transmissible than BA-2, and can partially evade immunity from vaccination or previous infection. ' BA-4 and BA-5 are pre-dominant in Massachusetts at this time. Third, there is a need to distinguish between exposure resulting in infection, and exposure resulting in a breakthrough infection. Fauci back then was discussing that vaccination greatly reduced the risk of a breakthrough infection (symptomatic infection). That was true then, and is true today depending on how fully vaccinated and boostered one is. As a general rule, if you have a breakthrough infection, you are more contagious. However, because an Omicron infection generates a 1,000 or more copies of the virus than a Delta infection, an asymptomatic individual infected with an Omicron subvariant is much more contagious than an individual infected with Delta. (The 'good' news about Omicron is that a COVID infection caused by Omicron is typically much less severe than an infection caused by Delta.) Would Fauci say today what he said back then about contagion? Probably not. But to be fully accurate back then would have required an accurate prediction of the evolution of the virus into what it is today. In January or February of 2021, IIRC, Fauci thought that death count from COVID in the United States would be 60,000 or so. He was off by a factor of 20. And he clearly failed to anticipate the resistance to vaccination among a significant segment of the U.S. population. In October and November 2021, deaths among those infected with COVID and fully vaccinated and boostered, and those infected with COVID and fully vaccinated but not boostered, were two percent and eight percent of the death rate for the unvaccinated. Perhaps Dr. David is an Israeli who secretly supports the Democratic party. There is a demonstrated correlation between COVID death rates in counties that voted heavily for Trump and counties that voted heavily for Biden. No need to guess which is significantly higher.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 17, 2022 11:52:14 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 17, 2022 14:37:31 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 17, 2022 15:00:43 GMT -5
From the T&G:
I was in the crowd towards the back and was captured in the video the College took. My wife and I and a classmate and his wife were wearing masks for that event but did not wear masks during the very crowded Saturday Mass in the Mary chapel. We have not yet been contacted by anyone at Holy Cross and are awaiting results of our PCR tests. Pretty sure if we got Covid over the weekend, it was from the Mass, not the Fauci dedication. Fingers crossed, no Covid.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 17, 2022 19:54:43 GMT -5
🤞
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 17, 2022 20:04:49 GMT -5
I believe the college sent an email announcement to those reunion attendees where a member of their reunion class has tested positive. For privacy reasons, I believe the College does not identify the positive cases by name, although obviously everyone knows Fauci is one. I suspect there are email lists available to those organizing reunion activities for the individual classes that can be used to communicate more specifically to alert those who may have been in proximate contact with an infected person; e.g., sitting at the same banquet table during a meal.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 17, 2022 20:39:39 GMT -5
That's assuming the person(s) who tests positive bothers to inform the College.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 17, 2022 21:30:28 GMT -5
Pleased to report that my PCR test and my wife's came back negative. I may make up a bumper sticker "I survived Reunion 2022!"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 21:38:12 GMT -5
Just a reminder you could test + for 14 days after being exposed to a + person.My wife had covid & I needed to test 3 days after she was + then every 3 days tilll day 14. of course every Dr. gives you a different time line
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 17, 2022 21:49:46 GMT -5
Yeah. And I might get hit by a truck tomorrow too.
P.S. I know you mean well. It's my carry over humor from New York. I can't help it.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 18, 2022 7:28:05 GMT -5
Certainly not a surprise vaxxed and boostered folks (including Fauci) frequently catch Covid. Often more than once or twice. The word ‘breakthrough’ is perhaps not the best way to describe this routine occurrence: COVID-19 boosters are designed to pump up the immune system as protection from the initial shots wanes, but federal data released Friday shows a surprising trend: For months, people with booster shots have been more likely than non-boosted vaccinated people to get infected with the coronavirus…CDC data from this spring show those vaccinated and boosted were twice as likely to get COVID as those vaccinated but not boosted. www.newsday.com/news/health/coronavirus/infections-after-booster-shots-vlg5ygsg
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Post by mm67 on Jun 18, 2022 9:01:37 GMT -5
Pride, A word of advice.: With all respect I realize you have been on a crusade since the early days when in effect you erroneously stated Covid19 and the Flu were comparable in terms of infection rates and severity of disease. And, your crusade continues despite conclusive proof that your conclusions have been erroneous. Your latest post leads one to believe that boosters increase the risk of getting covid, This comment is patently misleading and in and of itself false. The author quotes an epidemiologist who states that there is no suggestion or data that the booster increases your risk of getting covid. In the article the CDC is quoted as stating "boosters offer higher protection against infection, hospitalization and death." Other authorities hold similar opinions. Admittedly it appears booster protection wanes over time but the author stated increases in infection are clearly due to changes in behavior. Boosters give some a false sense of security and thus they may go out & about w/o wearing masks. Quite simply booster shots do not lead to higher rates of infection. However, your current post does not reflect these conclusions. In fact boosters in of themselves do not increase the likelihood of infection. As the CDC stated boosters offer higher protection. Why would you mislead and spread misinformation? Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion. However, you have a responsibility to be honest and tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Peace. PS NYS Dep't of Health reported that Nassau & Suffolk currently have the highest rates of infection in NYS(including the more densely populated NYC.).
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 18, 2022 12:09:11 GMT -5
Certainly not a surprise vaxxed and boostered folks (including Fauci) frequently catch Covid. Often more than once or twice. The word ‘breakthrough’ is perhaps not the best way to describe this routine occurrence: COVID-19 boosters are designed to pump up the immune system as protection from the initial shots wanes, but federal data released Friday shows a surprising trend: For months, people with booster shots have been more likely than non-boosted vaccinated people to get infected with the coronavirus…CDC data from this spring show those vaccinated and boosted were twice as likely to get COVID as those vaccinated but not boosted. www.newsday.com/news/health/coronavirus/infections-after-booster-shots-vlg5ygsgSo it’s a big money grab for big pharma? Ya don’t say.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 18, 2022 12:28:53 GMT -5
The CDC data is from 18 jurisdictions, not further identified but most of the 30+ jurisdictions reporting some data are states, with a few cities, counties.
The data is for adults ages 50+, per 100,000.
The incidence rate increased sharply between 3/29 and 5/15 Unvaccinated 122 > 614 Primary vaccination 23 > 127 Primary + one booster 35 > 201 Primary + two boosters 27 > 161
The jump appears to coincide with the arrival of Omicron. Before drawing any inferences or conclusions, one ought to look at the prevalence of Omicron in the reporting jurisdictions, as well as the testing rate, and whether home tests are included or not. And for example, if I am tested at a community clinic, that testing center does not ask for my vaccination status, so it can't report a correlation between vaccination status and the test result. If I am tested at a hospital which has a record of my vaccination status, then that record would show a correlation between vaccination status and test result.
Data for COVID deaths is more standardized and much less subject to interpretation.
Death rates from COVID per 100,000 for adults ages 50+ in the same 18 jurisdictions, for the period March 27-April 30, 2022 Unvaccinated 2.14 Primary vaccination only 0.40 Primary + one booster 0.29 Primary + two boosters 0.03
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Post by hcpride on Jun 18, 2022 12:55:30 GMT -5
Covid vaccines for the kiddies! “The Pfizer vaccine was authorized by the FDA for children ages 6 months to 4 years, while the Moderna vaccine was authorized for children ages 6 months to 5 years. “ www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna34173Parents can do their own risk/reward calculation unless/until we start with the mandates for the tykes.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 18, 2022 17:36:27 GMT -5
Governor DeSantis already did the calculation for Florida parents. The Florida Health Dept. is recommending against the tiny needle for tiny tots.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 29, 2022 18:59:26 GMT -5
Saw on the news today Dr. Fauci is currently experiencing ‘rebound Covid’. He originally tested positive on/about June 15. After testing positive for COVID-19 earlier this month, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Tuesday that he has joined a growing group of people experiencing a Paxlovid rebound, following treatment with Pfizer's antiviral.
Fauci, 81, said that when he first tested positive two weeks ago, he had very minimal symptoms. However, when he began to feel worse, "given [his] age," he was prescribed Paxlovid.
Other than fatigue and a bit of congestion, Fauci reported that he felt "really quite well," and after his five-day course of Paxlovid, he tested negative with a rapid test.
However, after testing negative for three consecutive days, Fauci said he decided to take one more test out of precaution and subsequently found himself positive again on the fourth day…
However, after his COVID-19 recurrence, Fauci was prescribed another course of Paxlovid, he said. As of Tuesday, he is on his fourth day of a five-day course.
"I am on my fourth day of a five-day course of my second course of Paxlovid. And fortunately, I feel reasonably good. I mean, I'm not complete[ly] without symptoms, but I certainly don't feel acutely ill," Fauci said... abcnews.go.com/amp/US/fauci-taking-2nd-paxlovid-experiencing-rebound-antiviral-treatment/story?id=85922417
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Post by mm67 on Jun 29, 2022 19:41:30 GMT -5
Pray for him and all others with Covid and everyone on this distinguished board. Let us pray...
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 30, 2022 12:38:04 GMT -5
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Post by Chu Chu on Jun 30, 2022 12:57:39 GMT -5
Great article. I rally sorry for him that he was unable to be there for is daughter.
I am just recovering from my own COVID-19 infection. I was traveling in Northern Europe for 2 1/2 weeks, and Mrs Ch Chu and I wore masks on the plane, on the train and indoors in public areas. On the way back, we flew out of Stockholm Arlanda Airport, and I think we got infected when we had lunch there. The airport was a madhouse of thousands of people from all over the world standing in 3 1/2 hour lines and often missing flights. My symptoms started exactly 3 days later, and rapidly worsened overnight and I tested positive on the 4th day, after initially testing negative that night.
I would like to put a plug in for Paxlovid. It is the real deal. I was feeling pretty lousy with chills, fever, deep cough, congestion, headache, and muscle aches. Within three doses I was remarkably improved, and symptom free at the end of 5 days. I tested negative on day 6, which was really great, since we have family coming for the 4th. I'll wait to see if I get any rebound. My sister-in-laws were sick recently, did not use Paxlovid, and had 4 really bad weeks. I hope that none of you get ill, but if you do, remember to get this medicine!
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