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Post by timholycross on Jul 1, 2022 6:29:25 GMT -5
No one in that league has done particularly well in football the past few years save for perhaps Oregon. USC just hired a new coach, UCLA has been irrelevant in football for quite a while; Stanford rose up but has fallen back again.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 1, 2022 6:33:23 GMT -5
This could sound the death knell for the Big Dance, sooner or later, probably sooner. CBS has paid a ton of money through 2032 for the dance, and you can bet they aren't keen on closing the door to stories like St. Peter's that draw eyeballs.
This is about football, not hoops.
Yes, you're right. And probably the only way for the NCAA to continue to be a meaningful governing body would be for them to stop sponsoring the highest level of football (i.e, somewhere in the range of 50-60 schools); those schools that wish to sponsor a team would go off on their own.
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Post by matunuck on Jul 1, 2022 7:28:29 GMT -5
Big10 and SEC will end up with 20 plus teams each. ACC will take a big hit when Clemson et al move on. The exit fee won't be an impediment to doing so. We shall see.
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Post by matunuck on Jul 1, 2022 7:31:21 GMT -5
This could sound the death knell for the Big Dance, sooner or later, probably sooner. Agree with you. The Dance, as we have know it, is in trouble.
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Post by Tom on Jul 1, 2022 8:54:59 GMT -5
This season, Michigan will play 9 conference games. Purdue, Northwestern, Minnesota, and Wisconsin are not on the schedule. I'm not a fan of being in a conference where you don't play everyone. Two extra teams won't make this any better
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 1, 2022 9:37:08 GMT -5
Pretty sure a "divorce" is coming within the NCAA - Kit hinted that to me that's his opinion, but my term.
So much news about the power schools be it football or basketball is just plain ludicrous - or a natural transition, depending on your point of view. The "Last Amateurs?" Yeah, right. Those days are gone. How soon before high school/prep schools join the journey?
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Post by trimster on Jul 1, 2022 9:43:27 GMT -5
Since the precedent has been set for an Atlantic to Pacific Athletic Conference, the PL should go grab Cal and Stanford and maybe add Northwestern and Vandy while they are at it.
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Post by trimster on Jul 1, 2022 10:03:03 GMT -5
Since the precedent has been set for an Atlantic to Pacific Athletic Conference, the PL should go grab Cal and Stanford and maybe add Northwestern and Vandy while they are at it. Some posters on the Cal Board are pushing for a Cal/Stanford move to the Ivy League.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 1, 2022 10:04:34 GMT -5
This is all about gaining the LA media market. The upcoming B1G TV deal with Fox is sked to be about 100M per year, per school. Add in two of the most athletically prominent schools in the country from the #2 DMA in the country, and the deal will likely go to 125M+ million per year, per school.
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Post by trimster on Jul 1, 2022 10:13:14 GMT -5
This is all about gaining the LA media market. The upcoming B1G TV deal with Fox is sked to be about 100M per year, per school. Add in two of the most athletically prominent schools in the country from the #2 DMA in the country, and the deal will likely go to 125M+ million per year, per school. Money will ruin the NCAA as we know it.
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Post by Tom on Jul 1, 2022 11:37:52 GMT -5
This is all about gaining the LA media market. The upcoming B1G TV deal with Fox is sked to be about 100M per year, per school. Add in two of the most athletically prominent schools in the country from the #2 DMA in the country, and the deal will likely go to 125M+ million per year, per school. Money will ruin the NCAA as we know it. Some might say it already has
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Post by timholycross on Jul 1, 2022 12:54:16 GMT -5
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Post by Chu Chu on Jul 1, 2022 14:22:15 GMT -5
I am flabbergasted! There was not talk about this before hand that I heard. It flies in the face of a long history and storied relationships and rivalries. This is bad for the game, IMO. It saddens me.
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Post by trimster on Jul 1, 2022 14:50:55 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 1, 2022 15:03:30 GMT -5
Great column by Feinstein
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Post by Chu Chu on Jul 1, 2022 19:34:54 GMT -5
Well, that was the most frank and refreshing take i have read on the whole mess. Feinstein has still got it!
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Post by hcpride on Jul 2, 2022 5:59:36 GMT -5
ACC must be praying even more fervently than usual that Notre Dame heads their way as a full football member. If Notre Dame decides to go Big 10 football that’d be a gut punch to the ACC.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 2, 2022 6:50:50 GMT -5
I think we aren't the only ones disgusted. I didn't take notes and I hesitate to put words in his mouth or to try to interpret what he said but he said something to the effect there were 300+ non-power schools in the NCAA vs. 60 +/- big boys and I took his tone as the 300+ have pretty much had it with the 60. As I recall on Crossports the general feeling has been that the power conferences would look to split from the NCAA but we may discover it's the other way around. The bulk of the NCAA, the little guys, may say "see ya later" or simply agree to an amicable divorce.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 2, 2022 8:03:23 GMT -5
I think there has to be a "national governing body" to establish rules and conduct national championships. I don't see the NCAA jettisoning the power schools that control the organization. It's certainly possible that the Power 5 would break away, but I think it's more likely that the Power 5 would work within the NCAA to carve out even more special treatment for themselves. I don't see the little 300 schools breaking away on their own initiative.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 2, 2022 8:07:20 GMT -5
Any breakup with the NCAA will be initiated by some or most of the P5 (maybe not all). And it's possible it could be in football only.
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Post by mm67 on Jul 2, 2022 8:12:16 GMT -5
The Power 5 is a cash cow for the NCAA & its executive leaders.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 2, 2022 9:26:57 GMT -5
Imagine the possibility of an all-California Rose Bowl. Strange...
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Post by hcpride on Jul 2, 2022 9:46:42 GMT -5
Or a Notre Dame v USC Big 10 Championship Game (taken from an online article).
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 2, 2022 11:44:30 GMT -5
Since the precedent has been set for an Atlantic to Pacific Athletic Conference, the PL should go grab Cal and Stanford and maybe add Northwestern and Vandy while they are at it. Some posters on the Cal Board are pushing for a Cal/Stanford move to the Ivy League. Good luck getting invited.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 2, 2022 12:30:58 GMT -5
The Ivy League is the perfect college conference. I cannot imagine that any member would ever leave or that the conference would ever expand.
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