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Post by Wormtown Railers Fan on Jul 17, 2022 15:29:46 GMT -5
Good chance to see Cape Cod League Baseball in Worcester. The Bravehearts are not playing that night. www.polarpark.com/ccbl
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 17, 2022 16:07:27 GMT -5
The WooSox are really sticking it to the Bravehearts. I like the model of the city and each of the city's minor league and college teams supporting each other at every opportunity. Holy Cross has certainly done that by scheduling games at city owned Polar Park and DCU Center.
Is this game inconsequential to the Braveheart's survival in Worcester? Maybe but it strikes me as the city and WooSox dissing them.
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Post by Wormtown Railers Fan on Jul 17, 2022 16:17:32 GMT -5
The WooSox are really sticking it to the Bravehearts. I like the model of the city and each of the city's minor league and college teams supporting each other at every opportunity. Holy Cross has certainly done that by scheduling games at city owned Polar Park and DCU Center. Is this game inconsequential to the Braveheart's survival in Worcester? Maybe but it strikes me as the city and WooSox dissing them. They are not playing the same day.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 17, 2022 16:36:35 GMT -5
The WooSox are really sticking it to the Bravehearts. I like the model of the city and each of the city's minor league and college teams supporting each other at every opportunity. Holy Cross has certainly done that by scheduling games at city owned Polar Park and DCU Center. Is this game inconsequential to the Braveheart's survival in Worcester? Maybe but it strikes me as the city and WooSox dissing them. Bravehearts have had exhibition games for CCBL teams in Worcester before...
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 17, 2022 18:51:12 GMT -5
It's of course within the WooSox and city's rights to invite the CCBL to play at Polar, but I remember the city (Augustus? Petty?) giving assurances that Worcester was still fully supporting the Bravehearts when they committed the hubdred+ mil for Polar Park. So, to me inviting the Bravehearts to play at Polar, promoting it and sharing the revenue would be tangible evidence of that support.
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Post by gks on Jul 18, 2022 12:20:20 GMT -5
The Bravehearts are about three to four levels of college summer leagues below the Cape Cod league. This is the best of the best. What's the problem?
BTW...Creedons would never give up a home date and the concession money. That's their cash cow.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 18, 2022 13:29:16 GMT -5
I can't say it's a problem. I just like the model of Worcester's sports teams actively supporting each other when they can. Maybe the Creedons turned down an opportunity to move a game to Polar, that's a good point.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 20, 2022 20:38:32 GMT -5
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Post by Tom on Jul 21, 2022 14:22:12 GMT -5
I wonder if these Cape teams will get any money from these games. I assume they are not paying anything for the privilege and counting on the gate to cover the costs. There is a voluntary collection at Cape league games. No required fee to attend
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 21, 2022 19:44:23 GMT -5
I wonder if these Cape teams will get any money from these games. I assume they are not paying anything for the privilege and counting on the gate to cover the costs. There is a voluntary collection at Cape league games. No required fee to attend Expenses (transportation, meals, and overnite lodging-if needed) covered will be it.
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Post by rf1 on Jul 26, 2022 10:26:33 GMT -5
805 showed up to Polar Park for the Cape Cod League game between Bourne and Wareham. This attendance number ranked fourth for the five Cape Cod League games played on Monday. The Polar Park game was however the only one which charged admission ($10.00). Typical Cape Cod League games charge no admission. They generate their revenues via Pass-The-Hat drives, 50-50 raffles, concessions, and merchandise sales.
Boxscore link:
Cape Cod League Monday 07-25-2022 Game Attendance Numbers
Hyannis Harbor 1,124
Cotuit 1,109 Harwich 1,107 Worcester 805
Orleans 583
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 26, 2022 14:36:40 GMT -5
805 showed up to Polar Park for the Cape Cod League game between Bourne and Wareham. This attendance number ranked fourth for the five Cape Cod League games played on Monday. The Polar Park game was however the only one which charged admission ($10.00). Typical Cape Cod League games charge no admission. They generate their revenues via Pass-The-Hat drives, 50-50 raffles, concessions, and merchandise sales.
View AttachmentBoxscore link:
Cape Cod League Monday 07-25-2022 Game Attendance Numbers
Hyannis Harbor 1,124
Cotuit 1,109 Harwich 1,107 Worcester 805
Orleans 583
This is a warning sign for the Woo Sox and the City. Worcester doesn't support teams that well without sustained marketing. They will have to be creative with events and market the bleep out of them to keep paying customers coming to Polar Park.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 26, 2022 15:00:18 GMT -5
805 showed up to Polar Park for the Cape Cod League game between Bourne and Wareham. This attendance number ranked fourth for the five Cape Cod League games played on Monday. The Polar Park game was however the only one which charged admission ($10.00). Typical Cape Cod League games charge no admission. They generate their revenues via Pass-The-Hat drives, 50-50 raffles, concessions, and merchandise sales.
View AttachmentBoxscore link:
Cape Cod League Monday 07-25-2022 Game Attendance Numbers
Hyannis Harbor 1,124
Cotuit 1,109 Harwich 1,107 Worcester 805
Orleans 583
This is a warning sign for the Woo Sox and the City. Worcester doesn't support teams that well without sustained marketing. They will have to be creative with events and market the bleep out of them to keep paying customers coming to Polar Park. Not a good number at all...
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Post by Tom on Jul 27, 2022 7:53:14 GMT -5
If it weren't for Crossports, I wouldn't have known about the game at all.
I imagine it was cool for the players, but the target market was people who like the game of baseball and will watch a game no matter who is playing. Sports fans who go regularly get to know who the players are and follow them. Both the Woo Sox and the Bravehearts offer that to the fan. Bourne and Wareham don't. - at least not for a one off game 75 miles from their home base. I'm not sure what we can learn about how the Woo Sox will fare in the long term based on a single game attendance for a game half the city didn't know was happening
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Post by HC92 on Jul 27, 2022 20:43:14 GMT -5
This is a warning sign for the Woo Sox and the City. Worcester doesn't support teams that well without sustained marketing. They will have to be creative with events and market the bleep out of them to keep paying customers coming to Polar Park. Not a good number at all... Seriously. Get a life. No one (except rf1) gives a flip what a college baseball team from the Cape League drew on a random Monday night in Worcester. And it doesn’t reflect poorly on Worcester or HC so it really doesn’t help your favorite causes.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 27, 2022 22:42:10 GMT -5
Not a good number at all... Seriously. Get a life. No one (except rf1) gives a flip what a college baseball team from the Cape League drew on a random Monday night in Worcester. And it doesn’t reflect poorly on Worcester or HC so it really doesn’t help your favorite causes. I can't grab the Cape League numbers right now from their game in Hartford (Cape stats are down) but UConn vs Marist in April at Dunkin Donuts Park on a Tuesday night drew 1068. uconnhuskies.com/sports/baseball/stats/2022/marist-college/boxscore/21787
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 27, 2022 22:55:47 GMT -5
Not a good number at all... Seriously. Get a life. No one (except rf1) gives a flip what a college baseball team from the Cape League drew on a random Monday night in Worcester. And it doesn’t reflect poorly on Worcester or HC so it really doesn’t help your favorite causes. Yes, a late notice one-off Cape League game is insignificant. I was thinking of the two AHL teams, two minor league basketball teams, Can-Am league independent baseball, one or more Arena Football entities, minor league professional soccer (at Foley Stadium?) team that all ultimately didn't make it in Worcester, although some started out strong. The Railers, Bravehearts and Woo Sox are currently succeeding but they have to keep marketing, imo.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 27, 2022 23:44:04 GMT -5
Seriously. Get a life. No one (except rf1) gives a flip what a college baseball team from the Cape League drew on a random Monday night in Worcester. And it doesn’t reflect poorly on Worcester or HC so it really doesn’t help your favorite causes. Yes, a late notice one-off Cape League game is insignificant. I was thinking of the two AHL teams, two minor league basketball teams, Can-Am league independent baseball, one or more Arena Football entities, minor league professional soccer (at Foley Stadium?) team that all ultimately didn't make it in Worcester, although some started out strong. The Railers, Bravehearts and Woo Sox are currently succeeding but they have to keep marketing, imo. While 45 minutes away, Hartford got named the best double A ballpark for the fourth time since opening. www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/sports/dunkin-donuts-park-again-named-best-double-a-ballpark/2839185/Worcester didn't get out of the second round ballparkdigest.com/2022/07/26/your-winner-in-2022-triple-a-best-of-the-ballparks-vote-las-vegas-ballpark/
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 28, 2022 1:23:42 GMT -5
The metal shipping container facade doesn't score well, but it's a fine park.
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Post by alum on Jul 28, 2022 6:40:24 GMT -5
I think that Dunkin Donuts Park is a little nicer than the Polar Park but I hope everyone understands that these contests are more about how well the team does in getting people to vote. The Yard Goats emailed me every day about voting in this contest. The Woo Sox could do better. On a tangent, during a Sox game on the radio I heard a spot which must have been sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce or some such group suggesting that it people couldn't get to Fenway that they could see great baseball in Worcester with the Woo Sox at Polar Park or the Bravehearts at Fitton Field.
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Post by Tom on Jul 28, 2022 8:46:15 GMT -5
Seriously. Get a life. No one (except rf1) gives a flip what a college baseball team from the Cape League drew on a random Monday night in Worcester. And it doesn’t reflect poorly on Worcester or HC so it really doesn’t help your favorite causes. Yes, a late notice one-off Cape League game is insignificant. I was thinking of the two AHL teams, two minor league basketball teams, Can-Am league independent baseball, one or more Arena Football entities, minor league professional soccer (at Foley Stadium?) team that all ultimately didn't make it in Worcester, although some started out strong. The Railers, Bravehearts and Woo Sox are currently succeeding but they have to keep marketing, imo. You are correct the CBA Bay State Bombardiers failed in Worcester The Sharks did not fail. They left town when the west coast NHL teams decided they wanted their AHL teams closer to the parent club. They were probably jealous of the Bruins being able to call a guy up at 5:00 in the afternoon and have him available that night. That was not a function of lack of support. Manchester NH also lost their team at the same time when the Kings brought the Monarchs to the west coast. I think the Monarchs had a pretty good following The Ice Cats owner sold the team. I'm not sure if not finding a local buyer is the same as not making it in Worcester I don't know what the other minor league basketball team is On the other hand, I think it can be difficult for minor league teams when the major leagues are so physically close that many people commute daily to the major league city. The Providence Bruins are an exception to that generalization
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 28, 2022 10:34:39 GMT -5
Yes, a late notice one-off Cape League game is insignificant. I was thinking of the two AHL teams, two minor league basketball teams, Can-Am league independent baseball, one or more Arena Football entities, minor league professional soccer (at Foley Stadium?) team that all ultimately didn't make it in Worcester, although some started out strong. The Railers, Bravehearts and Woo Sox are currently succeeding but they have to keep marketing, imo. You are correct the CBA Bay State Bombardiers failed in Worcester The Sharks did not fail. They left town when the west coast NHL teams decided they wanted their AHL teams closer to the parent club. They were probably jealous of the Bruins being able to call a guy up at 5:00 in the afternoon and have him available that night. That was not a function of lack of support. Manchester NH also lost their team at the same time when the Kings brought the Monarchs to the west coast. I think the Monarchs had a pretty good following The Ice Cats owner sold the team. I'm not sure if not finding a local buyer is the same as not making it in Worcester I don't know what the other minor league basketball team is On the other hand, I think it can be difficult for minor league teams when the major leagues are so physically close that many people commute daily to the major league city. The Providence Bruins are an exception to that generalization The Baby Bruins prove Sader70's point that people in RI don't travel. The Worcester Counts, the World Basketball League entry who played one season in 1989 and then folded was the other pro basketball team. The chair throwing Dave Cowens coached Bay State Bombadiers were of course more memorable.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 28, 2022 12:02:39 GMT -5
I guess if I've got my timetable right, the Bombardiers were around in the mid 80s because Michael Adams of BC, Class of 84; was a player for them when I saw a game.
So it was 10 years after HC left the Aud. Boy, the place was dreadful by then.
Long live the LaCrosse Catbirds!
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Post by rf1 on Jul 28, 2022 12:57:58 GMT -5
Seriously. Get a life. No one (except rf1) gives a flip what a college baseball team from the Cape League drew on a random Monday night in Worcester. And it doesn’t reflect poorly on Worcester or HC so it really doesn’t help your favorite causes. I can't grab the Cape League numbers right now from their game in Hartford (Cape stats are down) but UConn vs Marist in April at Dunkin Donuts Park on a Tuesday night drew 1068. uconnhuskies.com/sports/baseball/stats/2022/marist-college/boxscore/21787The box score for the Cape Cod League game at Dunkin Donuts Park in Hartford listed the attendance at 3,300. This game was played at 11am on a weekday Wednesday and also unlike typical league games charged $10 for admission just as was done in Worcester.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 28, 2022 18:12:52 GMT -5
The box score for the Cape Cod League game at Dunkin Donuts Park in Hartford listed the attendance at 3,300. This game was played at 11am on a weekday Wednesday and also unlike typical league games charged $10 for admission just as was done in Worcester.
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Got to think they had a camp day to get a crowd that large at 11am on a Wednesday but a good crowd.
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