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Post by cmo on Nov 18, 2016 12:57:28 GMT -5
The Story of Holy Cross great Gordie Lockbaum
Special preview screening in Seelos Theater on Monday, Nov 28 at 7pm
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Post by hchoops on Nov 18, 2016 22:45:09 GMT -5
Let's hope there is a good turnout. Do you know when it is on tv ?
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Nov 18, 2016 22:52:38 GMT -5
This is a joke right? There is an actual 30for30 coming out on Gordie?
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Post by HC92 on Nov 19, 2016 7:48:00 GMT -5
This is a joke right? There is an actual 30for30 coming out on Gordie? Why would this be a joke? It's a story about a guy from a small Catholic school in Massachusetts who twice finished in the top 5 in the Heisman voting. It was a story that got a lot of play then and will be interesting to college football fans 40 and older. The younger kids might not relate but it's certainly a coup for HC.
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Post by joe on Nov 19, 2016 8:00:57 GMT -5
This is an amazing thing.
This falls into the category of "the little things" that help rebuild the HC football brand.
One has to hope there is a master plan working in the background and that the people on top of the hill know better than those of us at the bottom.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 19, 2016 8:15:56 GMT -5
They have shorts (example, "The Deal" about the proposed trade that would have brought ARod to the Sox in 2004); and the longer features (like the BC betting scandal one and the one on Bo Jackson)... which type is it?
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Post by hcgrad94 on Nov 19, 2016 8:20:06 GMT -5
Short. 12 minutes.
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Post by Xmassader on Nov 19, 2016 8:23:06 GMT -5
Just watched the one on the BC betting scandal again. I recommend it to all, particularly to posters too young to have seen or remember what HC hoops at the Hart Center was like from '75-'80.
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Post by Tom on Nov 19, 2016 9:04:39 GMT -5
This sounds real. . . .
There was a time when a football player was asked to play both offense and defense, when a running back might switch over to linebacker, or a safety might transform into a wideout. That was the way it was before unlimited substitution was introduced in the ‘60s. It was also a double standard that was revived 20 years later for one very special player. His name was Gordie Lockbaum, and when his coaches at Division 1-AA Holy Cross saw how talented he was, they decided to turn back the clock. In this 30 for 30 Short, produced and directed by Erin Leyden, Lockbaum and witnesses look back on the heady days when he might play in 143 of the Crusaders’ 170 plays, attracted national attention, and became a finalist for the Heisman Trophy—twice, in 1986 and 1987
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Post by hc6774 on Nov 19, 2016 9:19:40 GMT -5
A memory I have of Gordie was a play at Fitton against ?; a pass down the middle to a wide open HC receiver had him cruising to the end zone with the D back coming up from behind fast; Gordie was on the side line and although out of the play, he sped up; the D back stripped the receiver just before they tumbled across the goal line and the ball lay on the one yrd line... Gordie arrived and scooped it up and into the end zone
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Post by hchoops on Nov 19, 2016 9:38:45 GMT -5
I had the opportunity to speak with Gordie during the Dartmouth game. What a gentleman ! He was as sincerely interested in what I had to say as I was in his thoughts.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Nov 19, 2016 10:03:52 GMT -5
This is a joke right? There is an actual 30for30 coming out on Gordie? Why would this be a joke? It's a story about a guy from a small Catholic school in Massachusetts who twice finished in the top 5 in the Heisman voting. It was a story that got a lot of play then and will be interesting to college football fans 40 and older. The younger kids might not relate but it's certainly a coup for HC. It wasn't mentioned that it was a "short" by cmo. My reference of it being a joke was of amazement if it was going to be a full length episode, a-la "Playing for the Mob" where HC got run by playing a prominent role.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 19, 2016 10:18:11 GMT -5
It just shows once again how far we've fallen in a relatively short period. Our basketball and football teams went from having the "Freshmen of the Year," "All-American," being ranked nationally in the late 1970s etc etc...having one of the best 1-AA programs in the country, a 2-time Heisman finalist etc etc.....to the woe-be-gone status both programs are today.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Nov 19, 2016 10:26:18 GMT -5
It just shows once again how far we've fallen in a relatively short period. Our basketball and football teams went from having the "Freshmen of the Year," "All-American," being ranked nationally in the late 1970s etc etc...having one of the best 1-AA programs in the country, a 2-time Heisman finalist etc etc.....to the woe-be-gone status both programs are today. 87-may I suggest a quiet, reflective, relaxing, and stress-freeing walk down at Horseneck Beach today. The soothing waves will do you a world of good...
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Post by hc87 on Nov 19, 2016 10:44:21 GMT -5
It just shows once again how far we've fallen in a relatively short period. Our basketball and football teams went from having the "Freshmen of the Year," "All-American," being ranked nationally in the late 1970s etc etc...having one of the best 1-AA programs in the country, a 2-time Heisman finalist etc etc.....to the woe-be-gone status both programs are today. 87-may I suggest a quiet, reflective, relaxing, and stress-freeing walk down at Horseneck Beach today. The soothing waves will do you a world of good... I prefer Bahhhney's Joy beach in Dahhhhkmith.....point taken though
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Post by JRGNYR on Nov 19, 2016 10:59:37 GMT -5
It just shows once again how far we've fallen in a relatively short period. Our basketball and football teams went from having the "Freshmen of the Year," "All-American," being ranked nationally in the late 1970s etc etc...having one of the best 1-AA programs in the country, a 2-time Heisman finalist etc etc.....to the woe-be-gone status both programs are today. We're getting to the point where it's been 30 and 40 years, and college athletics have changed significantly since then. At some point there has to be a level of acceptance that some of those times aren't going to return.
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Post by purplenurple on Nov 19, 2016 12:23:05 GMT -5
HOLY CROSS CLUB OF GREATER BOSTON Join us for a special Monthly Luncheon Series on Tuesday, November 29 The Holy Cross Club of Greater Boston invites all regional alumni, spouses, parents and friends to a special November Luncheon Speaker Series featuring Gordie Lockbaum '88, Heisman Trophy candidate from 1986 and 1987. Join us for a special preview screening of "The Throwback," a new 30 for 30 Short from ESPN, which tells the story of Lockbaum's football career at Holy Cross and his double bid for the Heisman Trophy. The screening will be followed by a Q&A with Lockbaum and Gregg Burke '80, the Holy Cross Sports Information Director who led Lockbaum's campaign.
Mike Philbrick '96, Senior Editor for ESPN, will facilitate the discussion. Tuesday, November 29, 2016 12:15 - 1:30 p.m. (early reception begins at 11:45 a.m.)
Downtown Harvard Club One Federal Street | Boston, MA
$25.00 per person (includes buffet lunch)
Validated parking is available for $20.00
Space is limited -- first come, first served. We are anticipating a large turnout.
CLICK HERE for more information & to register by noontime on Nov. 28 >>
Questions? Contact the Alumni Relations Office at either: alumni@holycross.edu | 508-793-2418
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Post by hchoops on Nov 19, 2016 13:25:13 GMT -5
Well done, HC club of Boston
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Post by matunuck on Nov 19, 2016 15:12:55 GMT -5
Sorry but to blame the precipitous downfall of HC athletics in general on outside forces beyond our control is nonsense.
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Post by JRGNYR on Nov 19, 2016 18:57:50 GMT -5
Sorry but to blame the precipitous downfall of HC athletics in general on outside forces beyond our control is nonsense. Re-read what I said and you'll see that's not at all what I said.
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Post by gks on Nov 19, 2016 19:13:36 GMT -5
The interviews for this were actually done a couple of years ago. Been on the shelf since. Glad to see it's finally coming out.
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Post by sarasota on Nov 19, 2016 22:26:08 GMT -5
"outside forces" have had an enormous impact on HC's sports programs. On so many levels....the number and aggressiveness of schools determined to compete with us for talent has expanded greatly, some potential competitors have been willing to throw tons of money at their sports programs, the pressure of Title IX cannot be overemphasized, the value of Liberal Arts has been challenged, etc. In fact, the effect of outside forces far outweighs internal factors at HC. For example, the cost of entry to the Big Time in bball (Big East) was something we wisely rejected. It would have been a disaster for us to attempt to compete in the Big East. It could have changed the character of the school--for the worse.
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Post by JRGNYR on Nov 21, 2016 8:00:22 GMT -5
"outside forces" have had an enormous impact on HC's sports programs. On so many levels....the number and aggressiveness of schools determined to compete with us for talent has expanded greatly, some potential competitors have been willing to throw tons of money at their sports programs, the pressure of Title IX cannot be overemphasized, the value of Liberal Arts has been challenged, etc. In fact, the effect of outside forces far outweighs internal factors at HC. For example, the cost of entry to the Big Time in bball (Big East) was something we wisely rejected. It would have been a disaster for us to attempt to compete in the Big East. It could have changed the character of the school--for the worse. 'Sota, we find some common ground here. I've rhetorically asked on a number of occasions, when the Big East invitation is brought up ad nauseum, if people would be OK with the unavoidable change in the character of the school that would've been necessary to remain competitive as the league took off. I don't recall anybody answering in the affirmative. I've hypothesized that football would've been eliminated by necessity. The school would not have been able to sustain itself as a purely undergraduate liberal arts institution with a sub-3,000 enrollment with over 50% women, so some changes would've been required - larger enrollment, expansion of curriculum, the addition of graduate programs are all possible outcomes. We all value the rigorous educations we received there, but the nature of the College would've had to change. There's no doubt that the Big East would've helped raise the profile of the College in some way (especially if there'd been athletic success), but the other consequences to the institution are rarely discussed.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 21, 2016 9:19:28 GMT -5
I was hoping this thread, at least, would stay about Gordie.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Nov 21, 2016 13:54:42 GMT -5
"outside forces" have had an enormous impact on HC's sports programs. On so many levels....the number and aggressiveness of schools determined to compete with us for talent has expanded greatly, some potential competitors have been willing to throw tons of money at their sports programs, the pressure of Title IX cannot be overemphasized, the value of Liberal Arts has been challenged, etc. In fact, the effect of outside forces far outweighs internal factors at HC. For example, the cost of entry to the Big Time in bball (Big East) was something we wisely rejected. It would have been a disaster for us to attempt to compete in the Big East. It could have changed the character of the school--for the worse. I actually agree with this statement.
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