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Post by hchoops on Jul 20, 2022 16:42:08 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 20, 2022 17:05:52 GMT -5
Two out of ten mention attending a public HS. Our hockey players and their families invest significantly in their hockey careers.
Time to win.
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 20, 2022 18:06:00 GMT -5
22-23 roster shows 17 returning players so some of these frosh will have to contribute quickly, especially one of the goalies since soph Gale is the only one with experience
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 20, 2022 18:17:48 GMT -5
Two out of ten mention attending a public HS. Our hockey players and their families invest significantly in their hockey careers. Time to win. Um...that is pretty much all of college hockey. HC is no different.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 20, 2022 19:24:08 GMT -5
Two out of ten mention attending a public HS. Our hockey players and their families invest significantly in their hockey careers. Time to win. Um...that is pretty much all of college hockey. HC is no different. You work in the industry and this is the status quo. Looking at it from the outside, I marvel that this sport like many is becoming mostly reserved for families who can afford all the extras, not necessarily the best athletes who work the hardest in high school and community leagues. There's something American about playing sports financed and manned by local tax dollars (schools) and community volunteers (Little league, Pop Warner. CYO, Anerican Legion, etc.) where you can go as far as your talent and effort takes you despite your family economic status. But I don't doubt college hockey players work their butts off in prep school and juniors.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 20, 2022 19:30:34 GMT -5
Um...that is pretty much all of college hockey. HC is no different. You work in the industry and this is the status quo. Looking at it from the outside, I marvel that this sport like many is becoming mostly reserved for families who can afford all the extras, not necessarily the best athletes who work the hardest in high school and community leagues. There's something American about playing sports financed and manned by local tax dollars (schools) and community volunteers (Little league, Pop Warner. CYO, Anerican Legion, etc.) where you can go as far as your talent and effort takes you despite your family economic status. But I don't doubt college hockey players work their butts off in prep school and juniors. You won't see college coaches at Legion games ever anymore. No-one worth anything plays in it anymore. I had a Tennessee baseball t-shirt and had to cover a legion game once and everyone was like a coach is here. Um no, I just have a Tennessee shirt.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 20, 2022 19:33:55 GMT -5
You work in the industry and this is the status quo. Looking at it from the outside, I marvel that this sport like many is becoming mostly reserved for families who can afford all the extras, not necessarily the best athletes who work the hardest in high school and community leagues. There's something American about playing sports financed and manned by local tax dollars (schools) and community volunteers (Little league, Pop Warner. CYO, Anerican Legion, etc.) where you can go as far as your talent and effort takes you despite your family economic status. But I don't doubt college hockey players work their butts off in prep school and juniors. You won't see college coaches at Legion games ever anymore. No-one worth anything plays in it anymore. I had a Tennessee baseball t-shirt and had to cover a legion game once and everyone was like a coach is here. Um no, I just have a Tennessee shirt. It's your athletic build, square jaw and cat like grace that fools people.
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Post by alum on Jul 21, 2022 7:03:57 GMT -5
You work in the industry and this is the status quo. Looking at it from the outside, I marvel that this sport like many is becoming mostly reserved for families who can afford all the extras, not necessarily the best athletes who work the hardest in high school and community leagues. There's something American about playing sports financed and manned by local tax dollars (schools) and community volunteers (Little league, Pop Warner. CYO, Anerican Legion, etc.) where you can go as far as your talent and effort takes you despite your family economic status. But I don't doubt college hockey players work their butts off in prep school and juniors. You won't see college coaches at Legion games ever anymore. No-one worth anything plays in it anymore. I had a Tennessee baseball t-shirt and had to cover a legion game once and everyone was like a coach is here. Um no, I just have a Tennessee shirt. I don't care that the D1 prospects need to go to showcases and AAU tournaments to be seen in baseball, but the insanity of club baseball for kids who are never going to play in college or at best in D3 spending $3000 to be on the team and another $2000-$5000 per year in travel, hotels, etc. drives me batty. Legion, after a 20 game high school season, ought to be enough for most of these familes. You get 25-35 games over a 7 or 8 week span all within driving distance of home. (Maybe they travel to an outside tournament but it is not necessary.) The cost is typically less than $500 and the baseball is of decent quality. An umpire I was chatting with at a 9U tournament last night told me that in CT they are down to around 40 Senior Legion teams, probably half as many as ten years ago. Oh, and Babe Ruth and Senior Little League are in even worse shape in most areas. EDIT: Yes, I know that this is a hockey thread. Hockey, unfortunately, is a lost cause when it comes to keeping it affordable.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 21, 2022 9:52:52 GMT -5
You won't see college coaches at Legion games ever anymore. No-one worth anything plays in it anymore. I had a Tennessee baseball t-shirt and had to cover a legion game once and everyone was like a coach is here. Um no, I just have a Tennessee shirt. I don't care that the D1 prospects need to go to showcases and AAU tournaments to be seen in baseball, but the insanity of club baseball for kids who are never going to play in college or at best in D3 spending $3000 to be on the team and another $2000-$5000 per year in travel, hotels, etc. drives me batty. Legion, after a 20 game high school season, ought to be enough for most of these familes. You get 25-35 games over a 7 or 8 week span all within driving distance of home. (Maybe they travel to an outside tournament but it is not necessary.) The cost is typically less than $500 and the baseball is of decent quality. An umpire I was chatting with at a 9U tournament last night told me that in CT they are down to around 40 Senior Legion teams, probably half as many as ten years ago. Oh, and Babe Ruth and Senior Little League are in even worse shape in most areas. EDIT: Yes, I know that this is a hockey thread. Hockey, unfortunately, is a lost cause when it comes to keeping it affordable. You aren't going to see me disagreeing with you. I am right now shooting a girls lacrosse camp which is 700 dollars for two days in front of college coaches.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 21, 2022 10:00:16 GMT -5
You have to think of that as “an investment,” not an expense. 😂
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Post by hchoops on Jul 21, 2022 10:44:24 GMT -5
But not a solid investment as there are not many lax schollies, male or female. My former HS, a Long Island lax power, had an All America whose best offer was Tufts, as non schollie.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 21, 2022 13:30:37 GMT -5
But not a solid investment as there are not many lax schollies, male or female. My former HS, a Long Island lax power, had an All America whose best offer was Tufts, as non schollie. Since this is a high academic camp, most of them aren't getting scholarships with Ivy, NESCAC, and two ACC schools (not named BC)
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Post by beachbound on Jul 21, 2022 22:20:00 GMT -5
But not a solid investment as there are not many lax schollies, male or female. My former HS, a Long Island lax power, had an All America whose best offer was Tufts, as non schollie. Since this is a high academic camp, most of them aren't getting scholarships with Ivy, NESCAC, and two ACC schools (not named BC) Lacrosse Masters in Newport?
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 22, 2022 10:01:41 GMT -5
Since this is a high academic camp, most of them aren't getting scholarships with Ivy, NESCAC, and two ACC schools (not named BC) Lacrosse Masters in Newport? Maybe 😜
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Post by beachbound on Jul 22, 2022 23:01:10 GMT -5
Lacrosse Masters in Newport? Maybe 😜 Hopefully you get that gig next summer, as my daughter will probably participate in that camp. Will invite some of regulars here and we can get a group photo 😉😉😉
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 23, 2022 10:15:56 GMT -5
Hopefully you get that gig next summer, as my daughter will probably participate in that camp. Will invite some of regulars here and we can get a group photo 😉😉😉 Worked for them the last two summers....as long as they pay.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 23, 2022 10:25:22 GMT -5
Tell us that you do at least some pro bono work, please.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 23, 2022 10:39:16 GMT -5
He comments for free on Crossports. Isn't that enough?
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Post by hchoops on Jul 23, 2022 10:43:29 GMT -5
Tell us that you do at least some pro bono work, please. Only when U2 is in the area
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 23, 2022 11:09:18 GMT -5
😂👍
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 24, 2022 7:57:46 GMT -5
Tell us that you do at least some pro bono work, please. You do your job for free?
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 24, 2022 8:08:51 GMT -5
Retired. The type of work I did was not something others wanted for free and I was not an independent contractor so no available pro bono opportunities.
That said, I have done lots and lots of volunteer work for my community, my College wherever I’ve lived. That might qualify as pro bono not being paid for any of it.
It’s something we learn at Holy Cross.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 24, 2022 8:32:53 GMT -5
Retired. The type of work I did was not something others wanted for free and I was not an independent contractor so no available pro bono opportunities. That said, I have done lots and lots of volunteer work for my community, my College wherever I’ve lived. That might qualify as pro bono not being paid for any of it. It’s something we learn at Holy Cross. Well, my company doesn't work for free.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 24, 2022 9:31:24 GMT -5
In that case, you are clearly not a "man for others."
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