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Post by hchoops on Jan 24, 2023 19:46:59 GMT -5
I still want to know what triggered the defensive changes were and why did it take so long to try it. Being forced to play without anyone taller than 6’6. Perhaps, but the players over 6’6” were not playing very much anyway. |
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Post by DiMarz on Jan 24, 2023 20:00:13 GMT -5
Perhaps Nelson was just playing a vanilla m22m, trying to get some basics he wanted in the D. Saving the real D for the PL games..Gives league teams less time to prepare for HC...or Nelson and the staff decided the D they were playing wasn't going to be affective with all the injuries to the bigs..They had to find a way to limit opponent bigs, and ball pressure is one very good way to do that...They are also changing up where double teams come from on the post players..Something Coach Willard always did when RJ was playing for him..
Whatever the reason, it is working
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Post by efg72 on Jan 24, 2023 20:04:57 GMT -5
But this is 4 years later
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 24, 2023 20:16:57 GMT -5
Perhaps Nelson was just playing a vanilla m22m, trying to get some basics he wanted in the D. Saving the real D for the PL games..Gives league teams less time to prepare for HC...or Nelson and the staff decided the D they were playing wasn't going to be affective with all the injuries to the bigs..They had to find a way to limit opponent bigs, and ball pressure is one very good way to do that...They are also changing up where double teams come from on the post players..Something Coach Willard always did when RJ was playing for him.. Whatever the reason, it is working Are you really suggesting in a season where Nelson’s job is on the line, he was knowingly trotting out a defense he knew wouldn’t be as successful as the “real D” in the non-conference? |
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Post by DiMarz on Jan 24, 2023 21:02:03 GMT -5
Perhaps Nelson was just playing a vanilla m22m, trying to get some basics he wanted in the D. Saving the real D for the PL games..Gives league teams less time to prepare for HC...or Nelson and the staff decided the D they were playing wasn't going to be affective with all the injuries to the bigs..They had to find a way to limit opponent bigs, and ball pressure is one very good way to do that...They are also changing up where double teams come from on the post players..Something Coach Willard always did when RJ was playing for him.. Whatever the reason, it is working No, the team lost Rabs, Louth, and Lewis, most of the bigs before the beginning of the league schedule.. That may have caused a change.. Every coach, well almost every coach, saves different things for their league schedule.. Scouting is so detailed now, one needs extra arrows in the quiver. Defense, BLOOB's. offensive sets.. That is how to be successful, be prepared to do something special... If you are at a game, notice how the coaching staff is telling their players what the other team will do...what to watch for on BLOOB's..Do something different, make your opponent think, not react! |
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Post by hchoops on Jan 24, 2023 21:14:47 GMT -5
I sat behind the bench at the Fordham tourney.
The assistants were doing the same things.
None of Rabs, Louth and Lewis were playing very much in the OOC games.
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Post by DiMarz on Jan 25, 2023 10:02:47 GMT -5
I sat behind the bench at the Fordham tourney. The assistants were doing the same things. None of Rabs, Louth and Lewis were playing very much in the OOC games. Yes, that is what they do! In the 70’s and 80’s there was little scouting done. An assistant or 2 might see a “local” opponent, or a coach might phoned friends, that was about the extent. Today, every team gets dvd’s of the opponents games, and usually 2 assistants breakdown the “films”. Each team knows what their opponent will do. This is why it is important to have something “new” in your bag to use. Offense or defense, make the other guys adapt on the fly. This is a big reason Coach Willard was so good at defending. His D changed nightly, depending on what the opposition was running..Every night the D looked different. That was the big reason UConn Coach Calhoun wouldn’t play HC. He and staff couldn’t predict how HC would defend… |
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 25, 2023 11:12:05 GMT -5
And, if he lost to lowly Holy Cross, he would be obligated to commit hara kiri.  |
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Post by Tom on Feb 1, 2023 12:40:52 GMT -5
I happened to catch a Nugent game. Random thoughts from a casual observer
This being prep school and not college, he was basically the biggest kid on his team and played center
I was most impressed with his passing. When taking the ball down low if things got too congested he consistently made an accurate pass to the open guy outside. As the big on the team he got a decent amount of defensive rebounds and he was hitting the guard racing down the court with the long outlet pass
I think he took more 3's and 2's. A lot of time down low resulted in a kick out rather than a shot, but the other guys were doing some doubling when he had the ball low. He hit about six 3's. In all fairness, I don't think any would have been a college 3. The high school line is a little shorter and he was never far behind it
On D he had what I call the swivel head He was constantly looking back and forth between the ball and his man (man to man D) so that he would never lose track of either
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Post by hchoops on Feb 1, 2023 13:19:37 GMT -5
Thanks, Tom
How was the competition ?
About how tall would you guess ?
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Post by Tom on Feb 1, 2023 14:32:42 GMT -5
Not very good. 30 point blow out with a little less than 10 minutes to go when Nugent and all the starters (except the PG) called it a day
Advertised 6'6" might be a stretch. Without bringing a tape measure with me I'd guess an inch or so shorter
Although I really liked his passing, some of his passes that were totally on the mark could get deflected by college defenders. But I guess that's why high school studs play like freshmen when they get to the next level
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Post by hchoops on Feb 1, 2023 15:30:21 GMT -5
Thanks, Tom
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Post by hchoops on Mar 5, 2023 22:47:09 GMT -5
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Post by hc17 on Mar 29, 2023 16:26:11 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Mar 30, 2023 6:49:29 GMT -5
Dude does not miss.
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Post by Tom on Mar 30, 2023 7:29:49 GMT -5
At least not in the edited video of his highlights  |
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Post by timholycross on Mar 30, 2023 7:51:20 GMT -5
Not that it necessarily precludes him not coming to HC, but did he sign a NLI?
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 30, 2023 7:55:33 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 30, 2023 9:11:49 GMT -5
If a guy signed up to play for HC under Nelson, it’s hard to imagine he’d bolt now. Especially a guy like Nugent who plays AAU for one of DP’s former players.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 30, 2023 9:19:44 GMT -5
Hopefully same logic for Batch
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Post by HCFC45 on Mar 30, 2023 11:15:49 GMT -5
Trust me, Batch isn't leaving!!!
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Post by hchoops on Apr 11, 2023 17:43:01 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on May 21, 2023 21:24:36 GMT -5
Joe is #33 in New England in the NERR final ranking
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Post by trimster on May 22, 2023 7:10:38 GMT -5
Joe is #33 in New England in the NERR final ranking The initial ranking didn’t include newcomers, (post grads and transfers into NEPSAC schools) in September. Final ranking does. |
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Post by WorcesterGray on May 22, 2023 8:14:35 GMT -5
Nugent's final ranking is more relevant (and impressive).
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