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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 22, 2016 15:59:18 GMT -5
Referencing the WCU game, Fr. K said it was so cold that day that his celibacy vows "nearly ceased to become voluntary".
Let's also remember that game was also a national quarterfinal as only the top 8 in the country qualified for the I-AA playoffs back then. If we hosted an opening round game Thanksgiving weekend this day in age, we would be lucky to get 7,000. Our last playoff game @ Villanova, which was towards the last year of the 16-team field, brought in about 5,000 but the Holy Cross contingent was very strong.
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Post by bikeman on Nov 22, 2016 16:38:54 GMT -5
If we ever get a home playoff game again the crowd may not be huge, but it would be rowdy. I'd love for it to happen.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 23, 2016 18:54:44 GMT -5
If we ever get a home playoff game again the crowd may not be huge, but it would be rowdy. I'd love for it to happen. Give me ANY playoff game at this point. Whether it's in Worcester (unlikely), Durham NH, Richmond VA, Fargo ND or Cheney WA, I'll be there.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 24, 2016 10:56:12 GMT -5
If we ever get a home playoff game again the crowd may not be huge, but it would be rowdy. I'd love for it to happen. Give me ANY playoff game at this point. Whether it's in Worcester (unlikely), Durham NH, Richmond VA, Fargo ND or Cheney WA, I'll be there. I feel that way as well...and so, I imagine, does Fordham this year.
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Post by ncaam on Nov 26, 2016 18:07:32 GMT -5
How about the thrashing unh gave lehigh.
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Post by bigfan on Nov 26, 2016 18:54:29 GMT -5
The blow out of Lehigh just goes to show how bad the PL is. I know people will still think that the PL is the best place for HC. We need our basketball team to get into a better league, ask most fans and they would agree.
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Post by joe on Nov 26, 2016 19:30:26 GMT -5
We can't and shouldn't get out of the PL until we fully commit to football. Are we going to give more schollies? Be willing to give nonmedical redshirts? Will we pay coaches more? Will we bring our stadium up to date? If the answer just one of these questions is no, upgrading conferences will be a disaster.
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Post by ncaam on Nov 26, 2016 19:48:20 GMT -5
PL not ready for upper echelon of fcs, plain and simple
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Post by hcgrad94 on Nov 26, 2016 19:57:43 GMT -5
We can't and shouldn't get out of the PL until we fully commit to football. Are we going to give more schollies? Be willing to give nonmedical redshirts? Will we pay coaches more? Will we bring our stadium up to date? If the answer just one of these questions is no, upgrading conferences will be a disaster. We give the 60 max the PL allows.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Nov 26, 2016 19:58:00 GMT -5
PL not ready for upper echelon of fcs, plain and simple Colgate a year ago?
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Post by sarasota on Nov 26, 2016 19:59:44 GMT -5
attendance 2,240
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Post by realism on Nov 26, 2016 20:07:37 GMT -5
The blow out of Lehigh just goes to show how bad the PL is. I know people will still think that the PL is the best place for HC. We need our basketball team to get into a better league, ask most fans and they would agree. YOU'RE RIGHT !!!!!!! The PL is an embarrassing environment for HC athletics, such as it is. A move to a league other than the PL has seemed appropriate for some time. I thought the blowout of Lehigh ( only one of the teams that blew the doors off of HC this year ) is another statement of how inappropriate the PL is for HC and how much of a mismatch HC is for the PL. Time for HC to stop pretending it's something that it's not, and gradually work it's way up to this kind of competition. I think a move to the NEC, the Pioneer Football League or DIII is the appropriate move!
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Post by joe on Nov 26, 2016 20:12:53 GMT -5
We can't and shouldn't get out of the PL until we fully commit to football. Are we going to give more schollies? Be willing to give nonmedical redshirts? Will we pay coaches more? Will we bring our stadium up to date? If the answer just one of these questions is no, upgrading conferences will be a disaster. We give the 60 max the PL allows. Right. We give what the PL allows. So if we upgraded to a conference that allows 63 we would/should be committed to give 63.
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Post by unhfan on Nov 26, 2016 20:20:18 GMT -5
PL not ready for upper echelon of fcs, plain and simple Colgate a year ago? We didn't take Colgate seriously last year. Today UNH treated Lehigh seriously.
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Post by unhfan on Nov 26, 2016 20:27:17 GMT -5
It's a tough weekend to play. Most folks are traveling home from Thanksgiving. As the pairings just came out last weekend it's tough in a holiday week for people to make plans to come to the game especially if they're traveling a distance. The first round game has historically been the smallest crowd for UNH.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 26, 2016 20:51:19 GMT -5
It's a tough weekend to play. Most folks are traveling home from Thanksgiving. As the pairings just came out last weekend it's tough in a holiday week for people to make plans to come to the game especially if they're traveling a distance. The first round game has historically been the smallest crowd for UNH. First round doesn't draw well anywhere, outside of maybe Missoula and Fargo. I find the Thanksgiving excuse kind of lame given that most fans should at least have an idea, by mid-October, that their team might be in the playoffs. It's not THAT hard to plan ahead for what will be a regional trip for most fans. I think a lot of the poor attendance has to do with the "let's see how they do this week and catch the next one if they win" attitude and the fact that tickets are more expensive for NCAA games. I'm not sure but maybe there are less giveaways and freebies afforded local youth groups than in the regular season, which would drive the numbers down.
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Post by unhfan on Nov 26, 2016 21:04:42 GMT -5
It's a tough weekend to play. Most folks are traveling home from Thanksgiving. As the pairings just came out last weekend it's tough in a holiday week for people to make plans to come to the game especially if they're traveling a distance. The first round game has historically been the smallest crowd for UNH. First round doesn't draw well anywhere, outside of maybe Missoula and Fargo. I find the Thanksgiving excuse kind of lame given that most fans should at least have an idea, by mid-October, that their team might be in the playoffs. It's not THAT hard to plan ahead for what will be a regional trip for most fans. I think a lot of the poor attendance has to do with the "let's see how they do this week and catch the next one if they win" attitude and the fact that tickets are more expensive for NCAA games. I'm not sure but maybe there are less giveaways and freebies afforded local youth groups than in the regular season, which would drive the numbers down. Hmm making plans based on might be in the playoffs. I'm not buying it. How do you make plans when you don't know where you would be playing and who the possible opponents could be? Thanksgiving you can plan for the NCAA playoffs not so much. In terms of ticket prices the prices were the same they have been for every UNH home game this year. I paid the 55.00 for my 50 yd box seat that I pay over the course of the season.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 26, 2016 21:17:42 GMT -5
You know, since Lehigh lost 64-21 to the Wildcats, I am feeling pretty good that Holy Cross only lost by 11 to UNH earlier in the year and feeling even better knowing that Pujals had an outstanding game against them with 427 yards passing on 42 of 64 attempts and 3 TDs plus rushing for another. Does anyone doubt our record would have been significantly better had he not missed most of this year and happy that he will be returning next season?
Let's see how UNH does in their re-match with their league champs, James Madison, who they lost to by only 42-39.
I will be rooting for the Wildcats.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 26, 2016 21:58:51 GMT -5
I think the only result you probably flip-flop post-Pujals is the Bucknell game imo. Every other loss was fairly one-sided.
The FCS playoffs are a quandary imo....as I've posted before, they are a necessary evil (to not get recruited against by not participating I suppose) ...but it's lengthy, drawn-out affair with very little fan-fare and more often than not are dominated by small state public universities or 2nd tier state schools....nothing against these schools per se but we have very little in common with them. I really wouldn't miss them one iota if we didn't participate in them.
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Post by unhfan on Nov 26, 2016 22:09:54 GMT -5
I think the only result you probably flip-flop post-Pujals is the Bucknell game imo. Every other loss was fairly one-sided. The FCS playoffs are a quandary imo....as I've posted before, they are a necessary evil (to not get recruited against by not participating I suppose) ...but it's lengthy, drawn-out affair with very little fan-fare and more often than not are dominated by small state public universities or 2nd tier state schools....nothing against these schools per se but we have very little in common with them. I really wouldn't miss them one iota if we didn't participate in them. A chance to win a National Title which these teams wouldn't have at the FBS level.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 26, 2016 22:16:56 GMT -5
I think the only result you probably flip-flop post-Pujals is the Bucknell game imo. Every other loss was fairly one-sided. The FCS playoffs are a quandary imo....as I've posted before, they are a necessary evil (to not get recruited against by not participating I suppose) ...but it's lengthy, drawn-out affair with very little fan-fare and more often than not are dominated by small state public universities or 2nd tier state schools....nothing against these schools per se but we have very little in common with them. I really wouldn't miss them one iota if we didn't participate in them. A chance to win a National Title which these teams wouldn't have at the FBS level. Meh....no offense to UNH but I'm thinking 3, 4 games into the process where you play E. Washington, Sam Houston St, Illinois St et al in mid-December.....really? The FCS is a great level but the post-season is a mess....have to say, I (begrudingly) agree with the Ancient VIII in passing on this.
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Post by sarasota on Nov 26, 2016 22:34:38 GMT -5
Prior to this season, North Dakota State has won this Championship FIVE STRAIGHT TIMES. How many Americans know that? How many Americans care? How many Americans know there is a North Dakota State? How many Americans know there is a North Dakota? My god, is this what we're spending Millions on? Football has become the tail that wags the dog at HC. It's a thousand pound anchor on our bball program.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 26, 2016 22:59:53 GMT -5
I think football has its place at HC....play the type of schedules we'll be playing in the next few years (Ivies, local rivals like UNH, UConn, stretch games like BC, Syracuse and Navy, then vie for a league championship)...but then be done with the season. College football is a sport that just doesn't lend itself to a multiple-game playoff system...particularly at a school like HC for a variety of reasons.
A one-game bowl against the Ivy champ or some other one-game post-season makes much more sense.
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Post by sarasota on Nov 26, 2016 23:10:11 GMT -5
Out of 239 liberal arts colleges in the US, we are the 32nd highest ranked. Very few of the 31 higher ranked schools even have a football program and, if you exclude the military academies, only Colgate and Richmond spend Millions of dollars on football like HC does. We don't need to keep on spending Millions on fball. HC has plenty else to offer prospective students. We have to stop living in the past. It's preventing us from intelligently planning for the future. We can keep fball, but we have to stop spending Millions on it.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 26, 2016 23:19:10 GMT -5
Like it or not sota, college football is still basically the "front porch" of a school in a lot of people's eyes. It's also really the only sport at HC (and many other places) that lends itself a platform to build around for alumni/students/local community for a variety of events.
It's a tough call, I agree....GTown has basically "punted" (pun intended) on being competitive and not spending $$$ in football at the FCS-level but they also have Big East to fall back on.
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