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Post by timholycross on Nov 29, 2016 12:40:35 GMT -5
Trivia Quiz.
There are 3 events that posters mention frequently w/regard to cold conditons. Those events are as follows:
A. HC/Syracuse 1973 (SU 5 HC 3) B. HC/BC 1963 (HC 9 BC 0!) C. HC/Western Carolina 1983
Here are the historical weather conditions for those days for zip code 01610. Who can match them to the event?
1. High 61, Low 27. Wind Avg 20/Gusts to 31 (you gotta think that on this one the high was well before dawn and then a severe cold front moved in). 2. High 39 Low 26 Wind Avg 9/Gusts to 15 3. High 33 Low 21 Wind Avg 15/Gusts to 20
No fair looking them up! I'll answer in an hour or two.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 29, 2016 13:56:31 GMT -5
I was at the HC Syracuse game and the score and temperature did not add to two digits.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 29, 2016 15:21:25 GMT -5
1 is the BC game. My guess is that 27 was more or less the temp on November 30 at game time. My father had tickets for us and refused to go, which didn't make me very happy. At least the score warmed the hearts of HC followers! 2 is the Western Carolina game. Not as terrible for December 3 as it could have been. You'd think it might have been near the high at the start of the game and dropped off. 3 is the Syracuse game. That's pretty damn cold for November 10. Probably the first real cold day of the year, had to make it feel even worse for the fans, including me. Source: www.wunderground.com/history/
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 29, 2016 19:02:20 GMT -5
I think North Dakota State is a lot more then washed up FBS players. They have the great advantage of not having professional sports in their state and of being the team! They get a lot of players who are FBS level talents but just not Big Ten talent so they commit to NDSU. The state and the community love their team and you see it with the numbers they put up in attendance every year! That part of the country is a college sports first pro second mentality compared to New England where it's all about Pro Sports. UNHfan, you are exactly right. Not only does NDSU not have to compete with an FBS school in their state, the nearby state either don't have FBS or only have one school playing at that level. In Minnesota, you have the Gophers and then it's a steep drop down to D2/D3. In Wisconsin, it's the badgers and then a bunch of D3s. The NDSU Bison are to North Dakota what the Patriots are to New England -- just go on AnyGivenSaturday and you'll see that their posters make up about half the site's traffic. Only reason they are not FBS now is because they would represent a geographic outpost for either of the two conferences that they currently make sense for them to join (MAC and MWC). Their recent teams could probably beat anyone in the country outside the AP top 10 at home in the Fargo Dome. And like you pointed out, they've done it by running a program from the ground up without transfers en masse, a la Sam Houston, Jax State, Delaware, Towson and others have been known to do. FWIW, I still think you should have to sit out a year transferring from FBS to FCS since it's still Division I. Nope...You are eligible right away. Here is one from Penn State to Albany www.ualbanysports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=15800&ATCLID=210176531
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Post by timholycross on Nov 30, 2016 8:32:06 GMT -5
Notre Dame's backup qb is now a college "Free Agent"...wonder where he'll end up?
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Post by HC92 on Dec 3, 2016 17:34:55 GMT -5
UNH got destroyed by JMU today, 55-22. UNH went up 7-0 and then gave up 31 unanswered points to trail 31-7 at the half.
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Post by unhfan on Dec 3, 2016 22:26:34 GMT -5
UNH got destroyed by JMU today, 55-22. UNH went up 7-0 and then gave up 31 unanswered points to trail 31-7 at the half. Yes we did! We lost to a team with a legit shot at winning a national title. Sometimes you just have to tip your cap to the better team as Lehigh did to us last Sat. Looking forward to heading to Worcester next year when the Cats come to town. The good news this is a young team and they kept the playoff streak alive when many thought it would end this year.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 3, 2016 23:01:28 GMT -5
1 is the BC game. My guess is that 27 was more or less the temp on November 30 at game time. My father had tickets for us and refused to go, which didn't make me very happy. At least the score warmed the hearts of HC followers! 2 is the Western Carolina game. Not as terrible for December 3 as it could have been. You'd think it might have been near the high at the start of the game and dropped off. 3 is the Syracuse game. That's pretty damn cold for November 10. Probably the first real cold day of the year, had to make it feel even worse for the fans, including me. Source: www.wunderground.com/history/I was at the BC frigid game. You are correct that it was 27 or very close for most/all of the game and that wind was brutal. Was the second coldest game I was at.The coldest was the Giants-Packers championship game in the early 60s (62?). but you are correct that the game result made it worthwhile. Jon Morris will always have a special place in my football memories
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Post by hc87 on Dec 3, 2016 23:22:56 GMT -5
Villanova lost today as well to South Dakota St....no Northeast schools left in the FCS playoffs...it's now basically down to Directional State U vs 2nd Tier State U.....yawn.
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Post by sarasota on Dec 4, 2016 1:41:21 GMT -5
FCS playoffs.....such a marginal event
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Post by Chu Chu on Dec 4, 2016 13:33:44 GMT -5
I remember watching Villanova - Montana in a packed Grizzley Stadium in Missoula during an epic snow storm. Now THAT was a great playoff game!
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Post by hc87 on Dec 4, 2016 17:43:03 GMT -5
Outside of NDSU and Montana (maybe JMU), attendance at these playoffs games are terrible. From what I read on AGS, they were pretty poor for the most part yesterday too.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 4, 2016 19:11:17 GMT -5
The way these playoffs are set up, any respectable amount of visiting team fans is unusual (HC's contingent at Villanova was pretty good, iirc). Should be set up much more geographically.
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Post by JRGNYR on Dec 5, 2016 18:51:51 GMT -5
The FCS selection committee does pair teams in the first round based on geography as best they can with the added stipulation that teams from the same conference won't play each other in the first round (unless teams from the same conference didn't play each other during the regular season). But the point is once you get past the first round it's difficult to maintain geography, especially when you're seeding the top 8 teams.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 5, 2016 18:55:38 GMT -5
The FCS selection committee does pair teams in the first round based on geography as best they can with the added stipulation that teams from the same conference won't play each other in the first round (unless teams from the same conference didn't play each other during the regular season). But the point is once you get past the first round it's difficult to maintain geography, especially when you're seeding the top 8 teams. If the playoffs are two rounds with 4 teams in the semi-finals, why does the "seeding" of 5 through 8 matter? I was thinking of the FBS...sorry. As Emily Latella would say "Never mind."
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Post by JRGNYR on Dec 5, 2016 19:00:31 GMT -5
The FCS selection committee does pair teams in the first round based on geography as best they can with the added stipulation that teams from the same conference won't play each other in the first round (unless teams from the same conference didn't play each other during the regular season). But the point is once you get past the first round it's difficult to maintain geography, especially when you're seeding the top 8 teams. If the playoffs are two rounds with 4 teams in the semi-finals, why does the "seeding" of 5 through 8 matter? It's actually 5 rounds. 24 teams to 16 16 to 8 8 to 4 4 to 2 Then the championship.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 5, 2016 20:54:47 GMT -5
If the playoffs are two rounds with 4 teams in the semi-finals, why does the "seeding" of 5 through 8 matter? It's actually 5 rounds. 24 teams to 16 16 to 8 8 to 4 4 to 2 Then the championship. Insanity....
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Post by JRGNYR on Dec 6, 2016 8:24:42 GMT -5
It's actually 5 rounds. 24 teams to 16 16 to 8 8 to 4 4 to 2 Then the championship. Insanity.... ADNP is on the NCAA FCS committee.
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Post by bikeman on Dec 6, 2016 9:05:26 GMT -5
I think it would be pretty cool to see HC go deep in the playoffs.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 6, 2016 9:43:53 GMT -5
The way these playoffs are set up, any respectable amount of visiting team fans is unusual (HC's contingent at Villanova was pretty good, iirc). Should be set up much more geographically. It is set up geographically. In fact, too much so according to some. You now have rematches every year in the Round of 16. I know ihoop likes to talk about how much the playoffs are anti-climatic (not necessarily wrong there) and that they would not be a point of excitement for Holy Cross because we would be playing the likes of "Directional State University" or "2nd Tier Midwestern State University". In fact, should we make the playoffs again our first round opponent will be one of the following 90% of the time: 1) Villanova 2) UNH 3) Maine 4) Delaware 5) Albany 6) Stony Brook 7) **Whoever wins the NEC** And our Round of 16 opponent would very likely be one of the following: 1) One of the schools listed above 2) Richmond 3) William & Mary 4) JMU 5) Towson 6) SoCon opponent 7) PL Rematch
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Post by JRGNYR on Dec 7, 2016 8:28:58 GMT -5
The way these playoffs are set up, any respectable amount of visiting team fans is unusual (HC's contingent at Villanova was pretty good, iirc). Should be set up much more geographically. It is set up geographically. In fact, too much so according to some. You now have rematches every year in the Round of 16. I know ihoop likes to talk about how much the playoffs are anti-climatic (not necessarily wrong there) and that they would not be a point of excitement for Holy Cross because we would be playing the likes of "Directional State University" or "2nd Tier Midwestern State University". In fact, should we make the playoffs again our first round opponent will be one of the following 90% of the time: 1) Villanova 2) UNH 3) Maine 4) Delaware 5) Albany 6) Stony Brook 7) **Whoever wins the NEC** And our Round of 16 opponent would very likely be one of the following: 1) One of the schools listed above 2) Richmond 3) William & Mary 4) JMU 5) Towson 6) SoCon opponent 7) PL Rematch Please stop, you're making too much sense.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 7, 2016 8:54:31 GMT -5
You know, from my perspective, I would love for us to be in that playoff tournament and would somehow find a way to get past the boredom of having to play Villanova, UNH, etc. I went to our last playoff game against Villanova down at their place and found it to be a great experience, especially since I believe we played them closer than any other team in the tournament as they went on to a national championship. The only things that would have made it better would be if 1. we won and 2. we played at Fitton.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 7, 2016 8:55:53 GMT -5
I think it would be pretty cool to see HC go deep in the playoffs. Sadly, HC chose not to participate for all of the years when we were really good and would have had a realistic shot at winning it all.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 7, 2016 20:08:05 GMT -5
You know, from my perspective, I would love for us to be in that playoff tournament and would somehow find a way to get past the boredom of having to play Villanova, UNH, etc. I went to our last playoff game against Villanova down at their place and found it to be a great experience, especially since I believe we played them closer than any other team in the tournament as they went on to a national championship. The only things that would have made it better would be if 1. we won and 2. we played at Fitton. HC repped very well in the stands in Philly that day. When it comes to hosting a playoff game though, don't get your hopes up beyond an opening round game against the likes of Bryant or Sacred Heart. I just want to eventually be back there and don't care where the game is. I'm there!
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 7, 2016 20:11:11 GMT -5
I think it would be pretty cool to see HC go deep in the playoffs. Sadly, HC chose not to participate for all of the years when we were really good and would have had a realistic shot at winning it all. We would have been the favorite in at least 86 and 87, from what I've read/heard. Probably why ihoop hates the playoffs so much -- while a student/recent grad, he was denied the opportunity to see us run that tournament like NDSU does now. Though I'm sure he and many others in his class would have rather seen HC toss the '87 playoffs, had they been eligible, for ONE more crack at BC.
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