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Post by longsuffering on Aug 28, 2022 16:07:18 GMT -5
IIRC, Hogan had a renovation in 1997, so it is due for an extensive refresh and reconfiguration. When it first opened, in the fall of 1967, Hogan was a beehive of student activity, with a bowling alley, large cafeteria on the second floor facing the library, a golf putting and driving room, a TV room, private music listening booths, pool tables, table tennis, bookstore, pub, and individual rooms for student activity clubs such as the radio stations,(2) newspapers (2), band, music practice. as well as conference rooms. Over the last 50 the building has been repurposed, some for the good, some not so much regarding providing students with a central point for non athletic activities. As part of the new campus master plan, I would like to see Hogan to its original purpose as a center for community activity, and a good place to hang out. Maybe Sasaki will recommend that the redesigned Hogan, can once again return to its original purpose. I doubt Hogan will ever be a beehive again. the beehive has been dispersed. Consider that the Prior Center is specifically designed with a 'beehive' as its central core. The Jo now offers another place to gather, and recreate. And Luth is much more than a court and rink. And Fauci has a central court / gathering point. The newer residence halls are suites (apartments): e.g., each suite in Figge has two bedrooms with two beds; a bathroom with separate shower, toilet, and wash basin areas, a kitchen, and a large lounge with a dining area. I'll guess the square footage of a suite in Figge is 2.5-3x the square footage of two adjacent rooms in the four original Easy St. dorms. The Figge-style suite arrangement is apparently what will be followed in the rebuild of the Easy St. dorms. Which means significantly fewer beds, and which means either adding a floor or two to each, or building more new residence halls than what's going in on City View. .I have no idea what can be done to Loyola or Wheeler from a reconfiguration standpoint, and I think it likely freshmen will continue to be housed in the traditional dorm. Mixed feelings about the increased space per student. I have no mixed feelings about college loan forgiveness, I think that is nutty. But for HC, I don't know if sustainability requires these features which increase the cost of attendance or will price HC out of competitiveness by putting pressure on financial aid resources needed to compete for the better applicants. Do students choose between paying for a Kimball meal plan and buying and cooking their own food in their kitchen or is the kitchen just a supplement to Kimball for late night pizza and chocolate chip cookies? |
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 28, 2022 17:51:27 GMT -5
The Suite Life is a statement by higher education that college isn't too expensive, it's underpriced and the costs need to go up to provide decent housing. I guess.
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Post by matunuck on Aug 28, 2022 21:42:58 GMT -5
Any idea if exterior renovations of the Easy Street dorms — and boy do they need a huge facelift — are part of the plan?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 28, 2022 22:36:01 GMT -5
HC competes for students with other colleges and campus residential life factors (dorms , dining services, recreational opportunities, etc) are key elements of building the HC brand. If we have lousy dorms it will affect apps and yield. That's no great insight on my part but certainly something to keep in mind
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Post by newfieguy74 on Aug 29, 2022 6:05:20 GMT -5
My experience in looking at colleges with my four children is that most colleges have pretty pedestrian dorms (yes, I know there are exceptions), and tend to spend money more on dining halls, athletics facilities, and student centers. A number of the dorms I looked at were sub-pedestrian. Maybe students expect more now, I'm not sure.
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Post by timholycross on Aug 29, 2022 7:57:54 GMT -5
Campuses with surrounding open land have seen explosions of private apartment complexes that rent to students.
Where my daughter went to school well over 50% of the students don't live on campus. Half of that 50% are freshmen, the only class required to either be at home or in a dorm.
The price tag for the apartments was pretty comparable and the accommodations were a lot better (God help them keeping those properties up w/all the abuse they are taking, security deposit notwithstanding). The only drawback is having to take a shuttle bus or drive 1-3 miles to campus.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 29, 2022 8:00:20 GMT -5
I think I may have already shared that during reunion weekend back a couple of months ago, I asked to stay on Healy II where I roomed junior and senior year and closest to Hogan. We didn't sleep there, just to change clothes and to have a base of operation. Let me just say that Healy looks like it hasn't been touched since 1970.  I don't think they've even put a new coat of paint on. Served our purpose but I wouldn't want to stay there if I was a current student. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 29, 2022 8:24:15 GMT -5
Any idea if exterior renovations of the Easy Street dorms — and boy do they need a huge facelift — are part of the plan? IIRC, the renovation budget for each of the four East Street dorms was $20-25 million. That was several years ago. Those four dorms were built in the 1950s-early 1960s, If one considers that a renovated dorm should serve 50-60 years into the future before another renewal, and one wants these dorms to be energy efficient, that could mean removing the exterior brick to install insulation and waterproofing. |
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Post by HC92 on Aug 29, 2022 10:24:43 GMT -5
All of the Easy Street dorms and Wheeler look exactly the same today as they did when everyone here was a student with the minor exception of some modest updating of common rooms on the ground floor. I half expected to see “rgs” carved into one of the desks in my son’s room because they were the same ones we had when I was a student and probably long before that.
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Post by mm67 on Aug 29, 2022 10:58:13 GMT -5
Many are laying out good reasons for a massive capital building campaign - Hogan, Dorms & academic buildings. HC has a beautiful campus.
IMHO the older buildings are distinctive & beautiful. However those buildings dating from the '50's & 60's have uninspiring exteriors and interiors, too.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Aug 29, 2022 11:13:52 GMT -5
I love the idea of PVR building out a more professional team, but these titles are already getting out of control. "Associate Vice President for Intercollegiate Athletics, Athletics Director" "Vice President for Enrollment Management" (Nice job with the 900+ Freshman class!)
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 29, 2022 12:34:03 GMT -5
The College has maybe 50% more students than it did "in my day". I'll bet we have now 500% more administrators.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 29, 2022 13:24:12 GMT -5
The College has maybe 50% more students than it did "in my day". I'll bet we have now 500% more administrators. No assistant ADs unless it was to bump up the MBB head coach salary. Instead of elongation the AD title, PVR could just send out an email stating the AD is "cabinet level" along with the VPs. Kit shouldn't get distracted with any VP duties, he has a herculean task just in his department. |
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Post by timholycross on Aug 29, 2022 13:27:22 GMT -5
All of the Easy Street dorms and Wheeler look exactly the same today as they did when everyone here was a student with the minor exception of some modest updating of common rooms on the ground floor. I half expected to see “rgs” carved into one of the desks in my son’s room because they were the same ones we had when I was a student and probably long before that. Wonder if my room sophomore year is still painted royal blue (courtesy of a trip to Spag's).  |
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 29, 2022 13:29:44 GMT -5
All of the Easy Street dorms and Wheeler look exactly the same today as they did when everyone here was a student with the minor exception of some modest updating of common rooms on the ground floor. I half expected to see “rgs” carved into one of the desks in my son’s room because they were the same ones we had when I was a student and probably long before that. Wonder if my room sophomore year is still painted royal blue (courtesy of a trip to Spag's). Spags sold Benjamin Moore paint. That stuff lasted. |
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 29, 2022 14:15:53 GMT -5
I stayed in Healy for our reunion this year. The water fountains were better and the bathrooms were marginally better than back in the day. Everything else looked like it did back in the 1960s (even the chipped floor tiles). The mattresses were like they were concrete. Hard mattress = OK. "Petrified" mattress, or stone, not good at all. (PS: I never carved initials into a desk ...I figured if anyone would get fined, for vandalism, it would be me!  ) |
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Post by Tom on Aug 29, 2022 14:19:48 GMT -5
In case any one else was wondering if our new Vice President was any relation to the Horwitz brothers, it's a different spelling. No such luck
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Post by newfieguy74 on Aug 29, 2022 14:28:49 GMT -5
I love the idea of PVR building out a more professional team, but these titles are already getting out of control. "Associate Vice President for Intercollegiate Athletics, Athletics Director" "Vice President for Enrollment Management" (Nice job with the 900+ Freshman class!)
I think Crossports should have titles too. I'd like to be Vice-President Emeritus in Charge of Periphrasis and Circumlocution. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 29, 2022 15:33:54 GMT -5
You’ve got my vote
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Post by mm67 on Aug 29, 2022 15:48:11 GMT -5
I plead guilty to writing Cooz '50 and Heinsohn '56 on Dinand Library lamp shades. Wacky kid & adult. One of my classmates was enthralled by the
Cousy inscription. I kept quiet. HA!!!!
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 29, 2022 15:55:57 GMT -5
Admitting to these acts of vandalism must lift a great weight off your shoulders after 50+ years. I admire your willingness to come clean on this
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Post by mm67 on Aug 29, 2022 16:01:19 GMT -5
Sleepless nights, no doubt. Love it. Thank you for your kindness.
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