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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 8, 2022 12:38:56 GMT -5
IMO, a remarkable indictor of her reign is that her first prime minister (of 15) was Winston Churchill, who fought in the Boer War
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 8, 2022 13:11:17 GMT -5
She was an extraordinary woman to be sure and made few mistakes during her long reign. Charles will approach the job from a different angle than his mother did
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 8, 2022 13:25:43 GMT -5
She's still alive, right? She just met the new PM yesterday.
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Post by efg72 on Sept 8, 2022 13:33:20 GMT -5
I met her in 1960 when my family lived in England (Sculthorpe AFB), about a 30-minute drive from Sandringham Palace. She made an unexpected appearance that Sunday, and the staff/advance team quickly had all of the tourists/guests line up on the Palace side of the driveway. As she went through the line of about 60 people and arrived by our family, my seven-year-old sister told the Queen her jewelry was beautiful, and she would be happy to have a piece. The Queen, as I recall, was caught off guard but smiled and graciously offered she would if she could, but all of her jewelry belonged to the people. We laugh about that moment but always felt fortunate to be there that day and spend time attending a small country day school.
God Save the Queen!
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 8, 2022 13:39:53 GMT -5
She's still alive, right? She just met the new PM yesterday. She passed away this afternoon UK time
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 8, 2022 13:44:45 GMT -5
Just watching on TV now. What a life!
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 8, 2022 13:55:01 GMT -5
May God Bless her and welcome her. May God Save the King.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 8, 2022 14:00:15 GMT -5
IMO, a remarkable indictor of her reign is that her first prime minister (of 15) was Winston Churchill, who fought in the Boer War I'm hope I'm not going off on too much of a tangent on this, but I think it would be more accurate to say that Churchill was a war correspondent during the Boer War but prior to that did participate on one of the last cavalry charges of the British Army during the Battle of Omdurman in Sudan in 1898,
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Post by alum on Sept 8, 2022 14:10:20 GMT -5
IMO, a remarkable indictor of her reign is that her first prime minister (of 15) was Winston Churchill, who fought in the Boer War I'm hope I'm not going off on too much of a tangent on this, but I think it would be more accurate to say that Churchill was a war correspondent during the Boer War but prior to that did participate on one of the last cavalry charges of the British Army during the Battle of Omdurman in Sudan in 1898, That is the excellent attention to detail which makes Crossports such a great place to visit.
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Post by mm67 on Sept 8, 2022 16:39:28 GMT -5
Not a monarchist by any means but... I have no doubt Elizabeth will go down as one of the greatest monarchs in the thousand year history of the English monarchy. She viewed her role as one of service to her country. She embodied the monarchy in its noblest meaning and served as a unifying presence for her country through the many changes in government during her reign.As head of state she provided a steady presence in the lives of the British people. IMO she saved the monarchy. Her journey has ended and prayerfully her life will continue. I commend her for a job well done. May she rest in peace with her love Phillip in the embrace of a loving God. ------- From a staunch anti-monarchist proud republican (small "r") American.
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Post by efg72 on Sept 8, 2022 17:48:16 GMT -5
Regardless of the role she had as the head of a monarchy, Elizabeth far surpasses the low bar we are willing to accept from our alleged leaders--where service to country is rarely the priority
Love this country but we would be blessed to have a leader with her character--- and I am not a fan of monarchies or anything less than a true democratic republic which we haven't experienced in years
I guess it is about duty, dignity, integrity, respect, honor, and love of country, not of self She was a rock for the people
How many people truly would weep if any leader here passed away
Offline i will describe an O Club experience in Germany that is indelibly etched in my soul from November of 63
By the way she had the British play the National Anthem after 9/11
We cant get people to stand much less know the words!
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 8, 2022 17:56:05 GMT -5
I'm hope I'm not going off on too much of a tangent on this, but I think it would be more accurate to say that Churchill was a war correspondent during the Boer War but prior to that did participate on one of the last cavalry charges of the British Army during the Battle of Omdurman in Sudan in 1898, That is the excellent attention to detail which makes Crossports such a great place to visit. Not too much of a tangent, but the Sudan was a war too soon. winstonchurchill.org/the-life-of-churchill/life/man-of-action/the-boer-war/I confess that I had to look this up^^^ before switching from 'participated in' to 'fought'. For a fuller account, with photographs, see: www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Churchill-Armoured-Train-Incident/This account has one statement that needs to be explained. A 'truck' in the Empire in those days was a small-wheeled means of transport. Lorries arrived a few years later.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 8, 2022 19:08:19 GMT -5
I’ve read that when Louis XIV died it was a particular shock to the people of France in that almost no Frenchmen had a memory of France without him.
There must be something along those lines for the British people - especially for those who love the monarchy.
BTW, the British National Anthem title changes from God Save the Queen to God Save the King. Which has almost an unnatural ring to it.
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Post by Chu Chu on Sept 8, 2022 20:08:47 GMT -5
Politics in the United Kingdom has the advantage of the Monarch as the head of state, whilst the Prime Minister is the head of government. We struggle with one man (so far) being both.
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