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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 12, 2022 19:25:28 GMT -5
“Bunion burner” is that some sort of podiatry implement?
Likely an annoying autocorrect for “Bunsen burner”?
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 12, 2022 19:31:05 GMT -5
And when auto-correct does that "We are not amused."  |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 12, 2022 22:03:09 GMT -5
It is kinda funny that our significant overlap schools are NOT our competitors in USN&WR rankings AND the two we are tied with in the USN&WR rankings are about as far removed as humanly possible from application overlaps. In fact, we’re not a significant application overlap with any of the schools in our national liberal arts college category…Pitzer and Scripps just drive that point home wonderfully. Sooooooo, one might suggest the national liberal arts college rankings are irrelevant as far as prospective Holy Cross applicants and their parents are concerned.(Beyond a generic notion that higher ranked is a good thing.) So, I take two messages from this: 1. There are still Catholic kids who want to go to a Catholic college. I wonder if they attend Catholic high schools and, whether they do or not, if they are cultural Catholics as opposed to weekly church going ones. 2. There are non Catholic kids who want to go to New England small liberal arts colleges. We need to attract them. Interestingly, I wonder if some do not associate us with the NESCACs and their ilk because we are Catholic and because we are D1?I don't think the DI thing matters. I think it's more the Catholic identity that separates our applicant pool from the NESCAC liberal arts colleges. They are all very secular and for most part in rural areas while Holy Cross is in a mid-size city. Colgate is also DI but has much more overlap with the likes of Williams, Amherst and Middlebury. |
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Post by HC92 on Sept 12, 2022 22:19:04 GMT -5
The NESCAC schools are also known for being uber liberal. There’s actually a huge lane for us to drive in if we’re willing to stake out the open ground as a school that values academic freedom and attempts to recruit faculty that represent the broad range of views in our country rather than the small sliver that college professors typically represent these days.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 13, 2022 6:13:49 GMT -5
Amen. brother!!
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 13, 2022 8:44:27 GMT -5
OK, Phreek, we know Queen Elizabeth II has passed on but what's with you now using 3rd person references to yourself? The "royal we" next? Have you forgotten so soon my discourses on lineage? Once of noble blood, always of noble blood. --Even though the peerage describes my particular line as having fallen into obscurity. That was a consequence of joining 'Silken Thomas' (Thomas Fitzgerald, the 10th Earl of Kildare) rebellion against the Crown. The folly of following a hot-headed, 24-year-old Irishman who allowed relatively petty grievances stand in the way of grand ambition. But the family, writ large, lives on --in the Game of Thrones, for example, and I expect will ascend to power at the conclusion of House of the Dragon, (Henry II, and the Plantagenets.) |
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Post by newfieguy74 on Sept 13, 2022 9:10:44 GMT -5
In '62 during a safety lecture in chem lab, Br. Clancy burned himself on a hot glass rod and set his hair on fire with a bunsen burner (both accidentally). A memorable class.  In 1966 in Biology Lab at St. John's Prep we were dissecting frogs. After making the incision we were to take a glass pipette, put it in the frog's mouth, and gently blow into it to watch the lungs expand. One classmate inhaled instead and swallowed the frog's lung. Quite a moment. |
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 13, 2022 9:14:05 GMT -5
Yeech!  |
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Post by alum on Sept 13, 2022 9:34:17 GMT -5
Attached is the Admissions office travel schedule. It seems pretty extensive. admissions.holycross.edu/portal/travelI found an old thread where we discussed this. crossports.freeforums.net/thread/3010/admissions-hs-visits In it, I noted that in two years the visits to CT had increased from 21 in 2016 to 66 in 2018. There are 58 Connecticut visits this year. It does look to me like there are more visits in more areas of the country than before, but I don't have the prior lists to confirm that. I hope the admissions reps (mostly young people) that we send out are engaging and able to sell the product. I haven't been to any high school admissions meetings since I was in high school but I have been on a lot of college tours. I saw my kids (and others) get turned off by lousy tour guides. I recall touring HC fifteen years ago with my oldest. The guide was knowledgable, but not very engaging. A parent remarked that Kimball reminded her of the dining hall in Harry Potter. The kids on that tour were the first generation Harry Potter fans. The guide said that she didn't know because she didn't read books like that. She had certainly seen commercials for the movies and could have anwered the question but chose not to do so which was unfortunate. |
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Post by HC92 on Sept 13, 2022 10:08:43 GMT -5
One suggestion for tour guides is to pair two people with different interests, background, etc. Our two guides last year were pretty similar to each other and involved in a lot of the same clubs, etc on campus. They were nice enough but the things they were interested in didn’t really resonate with my son. If I wasn’t an alum and that was his only exposure to HC, I don’t think he’d currently be a member of the freshman class.
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 13, 2022 10:29:46 GMT -5
That is a very important point ! I think you should drop an email to the Admissions office with this critique - myself and my daughter had a similar experience 4 yrs ago with a guide who did not speak loud enough for all to hear - anyway, in our case she was admitted but decided to go to Fordham. In taking many college tours I came away with the impression that HC could do better
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 13, 2022 11:28:52 GMT -5
Yeah, but then he'd miss the quad room experience! |
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Post by HC92 on Sept 13, 2022 11:41:39 GMT -5
Yeah, but then he'd miss the quad room experience! True. He’s having a great experience so far so we have no regrets. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 13, 2022 12:12:29 GMT -5
Alas, no visits to Louisville from what I saw on the schedule
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 13, 2022 12:24:04 GMT -5
That is a very important point ! I think you should drop an email to the Admissions office with this critique - myself and my daughter had a similar experience 4 yrs ago with a guide who did not speak loud enough for all to hear - anyway, in our case she was admitted but decided to go to Fordham. In taking many college tours I came away with the impression that HC could do betterUnfortunately there has been an issue for over 25 years regarding the Admissions office. I provided my view point several times, My voice fell upon ears that refused to listen in their arrogance. Hope the new admission staff is taking steps to repair the relationships that were severed or damaged. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 13, 2022 12:57:30 GMT -5
Only one school in Virginia. Was never many, but never just one.
New is the number of visits to Southeast Asia, South Korea.
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Post by mm67 on Sept 13, 2022 13:14:33 GMT -5
Visited many college fairs over the years. There were many colleges attending these fairs. Most years the big Unis and Colgate w/ manyof our PL brethren were represented. Most years HC was not to be found. Also, I noticed the college reps were young, attractive, enthusiastic, smiling with great personalties & communication skills - truly people persons. And, HC?
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 13, 2022 13:56:34 GMT -5
HC, in the past, with Jim Halpin as the Admissions Director, built a strong Alumni network to augment the admissions staff at college fairs. Unfortunately over the last twenty years, the Alumni Network was discontinued. This was an important corp of support, particularly in showing the strong allegiance that the college maintained post graduation.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 13, 2022 14:08:18 GMT -5
HC, in the past, with Jim Halpin as the Admissions Director, built a strong Alumni network to augment the admissions staff at college fairs. Unfortunately over the last twenty years, the Alumni Network was discontinued. This was an important corp of support, particularly in showing the strong allegiance that the college maintained post graduation. I represented HC at a big college fair here in Louisville for maybe a half dozen years and I know I generated incremental applications. I ran into one student some years later who told me that she had chosen to attend HC specifically because of her interaction with me at the fair. I'll bet there were others--perhaps not due to my charm and salesmanship but simply to showing up. |
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 13, 2022 14:13:41 GMT -5
While living in Ohio, went to a HUGE college fair in the Columbus Civic Center. There seemed to be hundreds of schools represented. Holy Cross was represented by Rick Carter's son. I had a nice conversation with him but I really don't recall many students coming to his table.
Also from memory, placement was probably important and as I recall, the HC table was buried in the middle of the floor and I had to search specifically. Not sure how location was determined but as they say is real estate: "location, location, location." Suspect it was not based on first come, first served and likely the locals running it thought OSU should get prime property there.
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Post by purplenurple on Sept 13, 2022 15:09:08 GMT -5
Our top 4 application overlap schools (alphabetically): BC 31 (National University Category) Fordham 72 ((National University Category) Notre Dame 18 (National University Category) Providence College 1 (Regional University North Region) We were T-33 (with Pitzer and Scripps.) National Liberal Arts Colleges Category. BC is 36 along with the University of Rochester. Let's not give the Heights any undue credit. |
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Post by HC92 on Sept 13, 2022 16:53:58 GMT -5
Looked up our progression in the last 4 US News rankings:
2019: tied for 33-35 with Bucknell and Pitzer
2020: tied for 27-31 with Bryan Mater, Colorado College, Kenyon and Soka
2021: tied for 36-39 with Oberlin, Pitzer and Skidmore
2022: tied for 33-35 with Pitzer and Scripps
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Post by purplenurple on Sept 14, 2022 9:26:16 GMT -5
It is indeed a numbers game. If I recall, President Rougeau said they were shooting for consistently being ranked within the top 25 for liberal arts colleges. I think that is an achievable and sufficiently ambitious goal which I hope we can accomplish without sacrificing what makes HC unique while making us more relevant admissions wise on a national scale.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 14, 2022 12:35:47 GMT -5
It is indeed a numbers game. If I recall, President Rougeau said they were shooting for consistently being ranked within the top 25 for liberal arts colleges. I think that is an achievable and sufficiently ambitious goal which I hope we can accomplish without sacrificing what makes HC unique while making us more relevant admissions wise on a national scale. Vince said 'to #25', getting higher than #25 would require a big jump in the endowment $ per student. Berea, ranked just above HC, is tuition-free, Think that doesn't make Breea a school in great demand? |
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 14, 2022 13:09:02 GMT -5
Phreek, we either went to different Vince speeches or we heard differently. My recollection is that he said he wanted Holy Cross to once again "be in the top 25" ranking not that 25 was as high as his goal went.
In either case, let's get to #25 and "worry" about a higher ranking after that.
P.S. I never heard of Berea or Breea, either spelling, and, really, Pitzer and Scripps? The snappy comeback, I'm sure is, "Holy Cross? Who ever heard of them?"
Pitzer?
Scripps enrollment is 1,082.
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