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Post by timholycross on Oct 11, 2022 12:32:43 GMT -5
Can the buildings/land be somehow acquired/used/developed by The College? Seriously. It's right there.
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Post by gks on Oct 11, 2022 13:01:01 GMT -5
The land and building have to be worth a fortune. Especially with that location.
Then again that pesky flood plain......amazing Rotman's stayed in business as long as they did.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Oct 11, 2022 13:09:26 GMT -5
I haven't been in Rotman's for a while but I wonder if it's a tear down. BTW, one of the first cases I had as a lawyer was against Arline Rotman, who went on to become a Probate and Family Court judge. She was a formidable lawyer at a time when there weren't that many female lawyers.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 11, 2022 16:23:02 GMT -5
That is a big piece of property. On Google maps, it stretches between 30 Brussels St., and 98 Brussels St. The legal street address is 725 Southbridge. The land area is nearly 13 acres. Two owners are shown, one with an address in Bedford NY; the other with an address in Palm Beach Gardens FL.
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Post by mm67 on Oct 11, 2022 16:39:01 GMT -5
For years I would look at the Rotman building. Fantasy: HC would buy it, use it to build a High Tech Center featuring a first class Engineering program and other tech programs. As was commented a while back, engineering is not feasible at HC for a variety of reasons. However the location of the property makes it prime real estate for HC. However what would HC do with it?
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Post by alum on Oct 11, 2022 17:37:53 GMT -5
I’m not sure what the layout is, but how about put an indoor track and tennis facility in there?
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Post by newfieguy74 on Oct 11, 2022 19:32:58 GMT -5
For years I would look at the Rotman building. Fantasy: HC would buy it, use it to build a High Tech Center featuring a first class Engineering program and other tech programs. As was commented a while back, engineering is not feasible at HC for a variety of reasons. However the location of the property makes it prime real estate for HC. However what would HC do with it? College of the Holy Cross School of Medicine. |
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Oct 11, 2022 21:00:58 GMT -5
I haven't been in Rotman's for a while but I wonder if it's a tear down. BTW, one of the first cases I had as a lawyer was against Arline Rotman, who went on to become a Probate and Family Court judge. She was a formidable lawyer at a time when there weren't that many female lawyers. An interesting case involving Judge Arlene Rotman is Hamilton v. Arnold, 135 F. Supp. 2d 99, (2001). |
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Post by Crucis#1 on Oct 11, 2022 22:14:27 GMT -5
I’m not sure what the layout is, but how about put an indoor track and tennis facility in there? How about a Consortium of the Worcester Colleges as well as the City of Worcester Public Schools, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, develop the Indoor Track and Athletic Complex, similar to the Reggie Lewis Center in Boston. That would spread the cost among several entities, and be a catalyst to the development of the Southbridge Street corridor to downtown Worcester. Easy access off 290 for visitors throughout New England. www.rcc.mass.edu/reggie-lewis/index.htmlen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Lewis_Track_and_Athletic_Center |
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Post by bfoley82 on Oct 12, 2022 6:52:08 GMT -5
I’m not sure what the layout is, but how about put an indoor track and tennis facility in there? How about a Consortium of the Worcester Colleges as well as the City of Worcester Public Schools, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, develop the Indoor Track and Athletic Complex, similar to the Reggie Lewis Center in Boston. That would spread the cost among several entities, and be a catalyst to the development of the Southbridge Street corridor to downtown Worcester. Easy access off 290 for visitors throughout New England. www.rcc.mass.edu/reggie-lewis/index.htmlen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Lewis_Track_and_Athletic_CenterReggie Lewis is losing a ton of meets this school year to the brand new New Balance facility. I know America East and NE-10 have both made the switch over to there and likely many others. |
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Post by alum on Oct 12, 2022 6:57:20 GMT -5
How about a Consortium of the Worcester Colleges as well as the City of Worcester Public Schools, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, develop the Indoor Track and Athletic Complex, similar to the Reggie Lewis Center in Boston. That would spread the cost among several entities, and be a catalyst to the development of the Southbridge Street corridor to downtown Worcester. Easy access off 290 for visitors throughout New England. www.rcc.mass.edu/reggie-lewis/index.htmlen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Lewis_Track_and_Athletic_CenterReggie Lewis is losing a ton of meets this school year to the brand new New Balance facility. I know America East and NE-10 have both made the switch over to there and likely many others. Reggie Lewis is, primarily, a high school track venue. I am sure it will continue to serve well in that role. |
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 12, 2022 8:35:48 GMT -5
Back to the topic at hand. Embarrassing to admit, I never set foot in their door. My excuse was when I was a student, I had no need of furniture. Here's from the T&G (lots of pictures that I can't copy):
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Post by rf1 on Oct 12, 2022 10:03:48 GMT -5
Rotmans' joins the history list of former Worcester area businesses - Spag's, The Fair, White's, Denholm's, Al Bum's, House of Doherty, Ziff-Paperworld, Shack's, Northwork's, El Morocco, Worcester Center Galleria, Greendale Mall, Higgin's Armory Museum, Weintraub's Deli, Iandoli's, Argento's Market, Widoff's Bakery, Thomm McCann's (HQ), Jolly Giant, Crown Bakery, Fairway Beef, Webster House, Chopsticks, Moynihan's Pub, Tammany Hall, Maurice the Pants Man, Sir Morgan's Cove, Maxwell-Silverman's Toolhouse, Plum's, Meola's Diary Milk,...
It is sad when local businesses that were were unique to an area close and are no more. These closures are not just business related as they are a loss of local character and identity.
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Post by bfoley82 on Oct 12, 2022 10:20:30 GMT -5
Reggie Lewis is losing a ton of meets this school year to the brand new New Balance facility. I know America East and NE-10 have both made the switch over to there and likely many others. Reggie Lewis is, primarily, a high school track venue. I am sure it will continue to serve well in that role. They lost the D-3 Track and Field National Championships after hosting it once because it was such a disaster with logistics. |
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Post by Chu Chu on Oct 12, 2022 11:01:21 GMT -5
Taking this large property off the public tax roles would not be popular.
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Post by Wormtown Railers Fan on Oct 12, 2022 11:39:03 GMT -5
Seeing the trend in Worcester this property will be converted to housing. There is new housing popping up all over the city.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Oct 12, 2022 11:42:43 GMT -5
Rotmans' joins the history list of former Worcester area businesses - Spag's, The Fair, White's, Denholm's, Al Bum's, House of Doherty, Ziff-Paperworld, Shack's, Northwork's, El Morocco, Worcester Center Galleria, Greendale Mall, Higgin's Armory Museum, Weintraub's Deli, Iandoli's, Argento's Market, Widoff's Bakery, Thomm McCann's (HQ), Jolly Giant, Crown Bakery, Fairway Beef, Webster House, Chopsticks, Moynihan's Pub, Tammany Hall, Maurice the Pants Man, Sir Morgan's Cove, Maxwell-Silverman's Toolhouse, Plum's, Meola's Diary Milk,... It is sad when local businesses that were were unique to an area close and are no more. These closures are not just business related as they are a loss of local character and identity. Mac's Diner, Barnard's, Easton's (where I found out that JFK was killed, on my 17th birthday, no less), Toupin's, The Flamingo, Nick's, The Comic Strip, Highland House, Lederman's, and on and on. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 12, 2022 12:48:41 GMT -5
Rotmans' joins the history list of former Worcester area businesses - Spag's, The Fair, White's, Denholm's, Al Bum's, House of Doherty, Ziff-Paperworld, Shack's, Northwork's, El Morocco, Worcester Center Galleria, Greendale Mall, Higgin's Armory Museum, Weintraub's Deli, Iandoli's, Argento's Market, Widoff's Bakery, Thomm McCann's (HQ), Jolly Giant, Crown Bakery, Fairway Beef, Webster House, Chopsticks, Moynihan's Pub, Tammany Hall, Maurice the Pants Man, Sir Morgan's Cove, Maxwell-Silverman's Toolhouse, Plum's, Meola's Diary Milk,... It is sad when local businesses that were were unique to an area close and are no more. These closures are not just business related as they are a loss of local character and identity. Mac's Diner, Barnard's, Easton's (where I found out that JFK was killed, on my 17th birthday, no less), Toupin's, The Flamingo, Nick's, The Comic Strip, Highland House, Lederman's, and on and on. Leading to the homogenization of America. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 12, 2022 17:22:04 GMT -5
 property border in yello  property detail, border in yellow  aerial view of 'pond' area at far southwest part of the property  Appian Way. Stillwater pond to the southwest  Brussels St looking east from Appian way  Brussels st looking east  Brussels st midpoint  Brussels st looking west and southwest  Looking west/southwest from Southbridge st  Main entrance -------------------------- South facades of the old mill buildings proceeding west from College Sq. to Appian Way. The channel for the Middle River appears to have built at the time of the Interstate.     ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, there is enough land for an indoor track. And for a large parking lot for Fitton Field and Hanover Park. None of the buildings look salvageable for a new adaptive use. One likely could build new residential at the west end of Brussels St., and Appian Way. The elevations may be high enough to be out of the floodplain. No building in the area of Stillwater Pond. Perhaps HC, WPI, and HC's developer, Madison Properties / Kendig Properties might undertake a joint development with the city of Worcester. |
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 12, 2022 19:00:38 GMT -5
Always amazed at how Phreek can post these huge pictures on Crossports and I can only get those dinky little ones on . . . . . and struggle to do that!
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 13, 2022 3:13:00 GMT -5
How does he get them to be right side up?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 13, 2022 6:57:57 GMT -5
Phreek uses a third party site, --of which there are several, e.g., flickr, photobucket, imgur-- and uploads images stored on his computer to the third party site. The third party site stores the image creates a unique file name for the image. Then the unique image file name is pasted on Crossports, and voila, the image is retrieved from the third party site for all the world to see.
One needs to use the BBC Code feature when uploading the file name. This approach is not recommended for sharing photos of family and friends.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Oct 13, 2022 6:58:07 GMT -5
 If someone can find the funds for Big Dig Part 2 they could submerge Rt. 290 and have a green space on the surface for HC students to walk to and from the new HC buildings on the Rotman's site.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 13, 2022 7:30:12 GMT -5
That NSA/CIA/Seal Team 6 past really comes in handy, doesn't it?  Thanks for the explanation/instructions. I'll stick with my small, upside down few photos. P.S. sader1970 still loves the 3rd person posts. Like the Royal "We."  |
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Post by bfoley82 on Oct 13, 2022 8:56:38 GMT -5
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If someone can find the funds for Big Dig Part 2 they could submerge Rt. 290 and have a green space on the surface for HC students to walk to and from the new HC buildings on the Rotman's site.
