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Post by HC92 on Nov 1, 2022 13:48:03 GMT -5
In wondering who might be available to come back next year, I made myself a list of the 4th and 5th years seniors. It may not be perfect so any suggested corrections are welcome.
5th Years (16):
Christos Argys
Terrell Prince
John Smith
Liam Anderson
Derek Ng
Peter Oliver
Walter Reynolds
Liam Doran
Nick Olsofska
Jake Reichwein
Jack McCauley
Anthony Leo
Grady Smith
Spencer Gilliam
Lemuel Marucot
Dan Kuznetsov
4th Years (22):
Ayir Asante
Devin Haskins
Jared Kreimer
Jordan Forrest
Griffin Wiegel
Tyler Purdy
Jonathan Young
Jacob Dobbs
Kam Molton
Hugh Kelly
Hunter Burns
Adam Guillemette
Ben Blessing
James Schnell
CJ Hanson
Pat McMurtrie
Dalton Daddona
Jack Coulson
Dom Thomas
Sean Morris
Thomas Kiessling
Patrick Haughney
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Post by dharry13 on Nov 1, 2022 14:16:52 GMT -5
I agree with the above HC92. Of the 22 4th years I personally expect 8 to 10 to return. I'm not going to get into who is coming back but there a few factors that go into those decisions. What players do you want to give money to; what players do you want back on your roster - knowing you have younger guys who need PT or who are flat out better; position need, etc.
I don't think 16 are coming back like this year. I do very much expect about 8; maybe 10.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 1, 2022 16:15:38 GMT -5
Doran has not played due to injury. NCAA-wise, I believe he can play another year somewhere.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 1, 2022 21:00:03 GMT -5
Thinking and hearing as many as 11
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 1, 2022 21:09:19 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 1, 2022 21:57:53 GMT -5
Doran has not played due to injury. NCAA-wise, I believe he can play another year somewhere. Keyword is "somewhere." Once HC players are eligible to receive their sheepskin in May they have another possible option. I can't fault those players. HC won't pay for a year of graduate school and if you are a recruited football player you might even have easier access to a grad program you want. I can see the pull of staying at HC for one extra semester to play championship football also. |
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Post by HC92 on Nov 2, 2022 9:24:54 GMT -5
Marked those 4th year seniors who appeared on the Fordham two deep (plus anyone who started week 1 and is now injured) with an asterisk to give folks a sense of who might be on the list to bring back. One star is first string. Two star is second string. Some not starred are obviously key pieces for us.
Ayir Asante*
Devin Haskins*
Jared Kreimer* (punt returner)
Jordan Forrest
Griffin Wiegel
Tyler Purdy* (kick returner)
Jonathan Young
Jacob Dobbs* (started week one)
Kam Molton**
Hugh Kelly
Hunter Burns* (started week one)
Adam Guillemette** (backup long snapper)
Ben Blessing
James Schnell
CJ Hanson*
Pat McMurtrie* (started week one)
Dalton Daddona**
Jack Coulson
Dom Thomas**
Sean Morris*
Thomas Kiessling
Patrick Haughney*
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 12, 2022 12:00:32 GMT -5
Just thought I would give this thread a little bump.
Anyone have updates? We obviously have some big shoes to fill but having guys back like Haskins and Dobbs could really help settle the D next year.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 12, 2022 12:09:06 GMT -5
Doran has not played due to injury. NCAA-wise, I believe he can play another year somewhere. If Doran dropped the fall 2022 semester, would he not be eligible to return in fall of 2023? He would matriculate the spring of 2023, and his eighth semester would be fall of 2023. Has he been seen on the sidelines? |
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Post by breezy on Dec 12, 2022 12:16:37 GMT -5
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 12, 2022 13:08:55 GMT -5
Doran has not played due to injury. NCAA-wise, I believe he can play another year somewhere. If Doran dropped the fall 2022 semester, would he not be eligible to return in fall of 2023? He would matriculate the spring of 2023, and his eighth semester would be fall of 2023. Has he been seen on the sidelines? Unfortunately, Liam has a health issue and is done playing. |
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 12, 2022 13:13:43 GMT -5
I am sorry to hear that. I wish him good health in the future.
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Post by alum on Dec 12, 2022 13:29:18 GMT -5
An excellent career and an outstanding Crusader. He has been a leader on campus. I hope he is able to find a good fit for his talents while getting an advanced degree. |
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Post by hchoops on Dec 12, 2022 13:54:34 GMT -5
That did not take long
Hope he does not have any/many folllowers
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Post by hcpride on Dec 12, 2022 14:02:48 GMT -5
A Covid 5th-year is still eligible (as applicable) for a retroactive redshirt elsewhere so perhaps we have a few 5th years who have not finished their college careers.
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 12, 2022 14:26:50 GMT -5
A Covid 5th-year is still eligible (as applicable) for a retroactive redshirt elsewhere so perhaps we have a few 5th years who have not finished their college careers. I think you are spot on. Some players have a 6th year of eligibility “in the bank” so to speak due to a prior redshirt year. A fellow poster pointed out to me that no one can play in the PL for a 6th year, even if they wanted to. This, their only option is to look elsewhere for that 6th year. |
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Post by hc4life on Dec 12, 2022 14:30:26 GMT -5
That is correct. Unfortunately playing a 6th year at HC is not an option. A few others may follow same path.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 12, 2022 14:45:29 GMT -5
John Brekke was the first post Covid player to use his 6th year at another program (Miami OH). Seniors that chose to graduate from HC and use their Covid years (5th years) elsewhere and could have technically returned to HC are Brian Foley (Duke), Jack Bolwer (Richmond) and Joe Lang (PWO at FSU)
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Post by joutsHC77 on Dec 12, 2022 14:54:53 GMT -5
We don't want to be like the IW QB who was in his 7th year! If someone gets a 5th year due to medical reasons, use it but remember, "We're not in the entertainment business!" LOL!
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Post by hcpride on Dec 12, 2022 15:20:36 GMT -5
A Covid 5th-year is still eligible (as applicable) for a retroactive redshirt elsewhere so perhaps we have a few 5th years who have not finished their college careers. I think you are spot on. Some players have a 6th year of eligibility “in the bank” so to speak due to a prior redshirt year. A fellow poster pointed out to me that no one can play in the PL for a 6th year, even if they wanted to. This, their only option is to look elsewhere for that 6th year. Walter Reynolds is one example. And the first in the portal for us this year. (Frosh year he didn't get in any games.) |
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 12, 2022 15:25:03 GMT -5
I honestly believe HC will start using a 5th year more often. They see the power in it. Medical redshirt of some sort for Frosh and ask them to do a 9th semester with a double major. I have no inside knowledge but I view this as a viable option for the future and one I believe the coaches will start to use. I’m 100% in favor. Hurts no one.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 12, 2022 15:30:08 GMT -5
I honestly believe HC will start using a 5th year more often. They see the power in it. Medical redshirt of some sort for Frosh and ask them to do a 9th semester with a double major. I have no inside knowledge but I view this as a viable option for the future and one I believe the coaches will start to use. I’m 100% in favor. Hurts no one. Peter Pujols and many others have utilized the medical redshirt (PL-permitted). Differentiates us from the Ivies (who permit no redshirts at all). I see us moving to the non-medical redshirt once the Covid 5th-year kids depart. |
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 12, 2022 15:32:33 GMT -5
hcpride...I sincerely hope you are correct in that!
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Post by hcpride on Dec 12, 2022 17:32:58 GMT -5
Marked those 4th year seniors who appeared on the Fordham two deep (plus anyone who started week 1 and is now injured) with an asterisk to give folks a sense of who might be on the list to bring back. One star is first string. Two star is second string. Some not starred are obviously key pieces for us. Ayir Asante* Devin Haskins* Jared Kreimer* (punt returner) Jordan Forrest Griffin Wiegel Tyler Purdy* (kick returner) Jonathan Young Jacob Dobbs* (started week one) Kam Molton** Hugh Kelly Hunter Burns* (started week one) Adam Guillemette** (backup long snapper) Ben Blessing James Schnell CJ Hanson* Pat McMurtrie* (started week one) Dalton Daddona** Jack Coulson Dom Thomas** Sean Morris* Thomas Kiessling Patrick Haughney* Gotta bring back a good bunch of 5th years to compete (again) for the FCS national championship. Obviously. If we want to ratchet down our goal quite a bit (compete for PL Champs or Ram-Crusader Cup or Bucknell-HC Polar Park Champs or something along those lines) we can do without the 5th-years. |
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Post by efg72 on Dec 12, 2022 18:22:02 GMT -5
Most decisions on 5thyears are made, but some unknown based on early signings
Glory days ahead
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