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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 29, 2016 15:46:41 GMT -5
We've had our issues at HC, but not quite as bad as the past two seasons at Lafayette (3-19). Football Scoop is the first to report: footballscoop.com/The-Scoop/My bet is that either Tim Cramsey or John Loose is at the top of the list. Would Kevin Higgins return to the PL? |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 29, 2016 15:51:25 GMT -5
BTW, this makes TG the longest tenured head coach in the PL (13 years).
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Post by hchoops on Nov 29, 2016 15:56:48 GMT -5
Would a top hire put Lafayette ahead of HC also ?
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Post by sarasota on Nov 29, 2016 21:50:39 GMT -5
Lafayette has a big advantage over HC in that they have an ancient nearby rival (Lehigh) that enjoys healthy interest and that demands the continued existence of fball at Lafayette.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 29, 2016 22:17:13 GMT -5
The fact that Tavani was fired is somewhat good news imo....it shows that PL schools won't accept poor results in football to some extent.
I don't want to wish ill-well on anyone but D1 sports are D1 sports...the head football coaches at these schools are hired to produce, above and beyond just "molding young men."
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Post by timholycross on Nov 30, 2016 8:08:21 GMT -5
I'll add to that my opinion that 13 years at most programs is long enough. Nothing personal.
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Post by hc811215 on Nov 30, 2016 8:53:23 GMT -5
We've had our issues at HC, but not quite as bad as the past two seasons at Lafayette (3-19). Football Scoop is the first to report: footballscoop.com/The-Scoop/My bet is that either Tim Cramsey or John Loose is at the top of the list. Would Kevin Higgins return to the PL? CTG goes 9-26 over 3 seasons ('12 -'14) and gets an extension. You really can't make this stuff up. We should be well into our rebuilding phase with a new coach going into his third season. |
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Post by ncaam on Nov 30, 2016 14:36:05 GMT -5
Lafayette has some of the best facilities for football in The Patriot League. They should be able to do better
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Post by hcgrad94 on Nov 30, 2016 14:39:08 GMT -5
Thanks 70.
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Post by sarasota on Nov 30, 2016 17:36:27 GMT -5
Just goes to show ya....bricks & mortar only go so far.....
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Post by timholycross on Nov 30, 2016 21:04:21 GMT -5
I can't say that I've paid all that much attention to Lafayette, but from what I've heard their PTB can give ours a run for their money in terms of not embracing sports. Kind of surprised that in terms of rebuilding Fisher Field and Kirby someone was able to get the job done.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 1, 2016 7:39:45 GMT -5
As for a run for the money, Lafayette in 2014-15 spent $700,000 more on football than did Holy Cross; most of the difference likely reflects having more players on scollies. Holy Cross spent $600,000 more than Lafayette on M/W hoops. As both schools award the same number of scollies, the most likely reason for most of the difference is coaches compensation.
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Post by sarasota on Dec 1, 2016 9:53:06 GMT -5
PP- The compensation for HC's mens head bball coach has historically been an outlier (on the up side) in the PL. Yes?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 1, 2016 11:46:05 GMT -5
PP- The compensation for HC's mens head bball coach has historically been an outlier (on the up side) in the PL. Yes? Yes. IIRC, CRW was making so much that they gave him a second hat, as an assistant AD, _____________________ For comparison, HC pays about (or slightly below) the median for FCS football, above the median for FCS hoops, and below the median (only 10 schools) for FCS ice hockey. Values below are for 2014-15. FCS median compensation (head coach)football 261000 hoops M/W 263000/169000 ice hockey M/W 256000/147000 Div I, no football median compensation (head coach)hoops M/W 379000/186000 ice hockey M/W 343000/198000 FBS median compensation (head coach)football 1045000 hoops M/W 1376000/419000 ice hockey 391000/169000 |
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Post by bison137 on Dec 1, 2016 12:18:34 GMT -5
Lafayette has some of the best facilities for football in The Patriot League. They should be able to do better Their facilities/stadium are the best in the PL. they definitely should do better. |
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Post by bison137 on Dec 1, 2016 12:20:08 GMT -5
PP- The compensation for HC's mens head bball coach has historically been an outlier (on the up side) in the PL. Yes? Yes, an outlier except for Ed DeChellis at Navy, who,has a very lucrative contract. |
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Post by sarasota on Dec 1, 2016 13:30:45 GMT -5
PP- You are definitely DATAMAN. thx
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 1, 2016 16:24:22 GMT -5
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Post by hc6774 on Dec 1, 2016 17:08:42 GMT -5
PP- The compensation for HC's mens head bball coach has historically been an outlier (on the up side) in the PL. Yes? Yes. IIRC, CRW was making so much that they gave him a second hat, as an assistant AD, _____________________ For comparison, HC pays about (or slightly below) the median for FCS football, above the median for FCS hoops, and below the median (only 10 schools) for FCS ice hockey. Values below are for 2014-15. FCS median compensation (head coach)football 261000 hoops M/W 263000/169000 ice hockey M/W 256000/147000 Div I, no football median compensation (head coach)hoops M/W 379000/186000 ice hockey M/W 343000/198000 FBS median compensation (head coach)football 1045000 hoops M/W 1376000/419000 ice hockey 391000/169000 Re CRW IIRC his first contract deferred some compensation and had golden handcuff provisions which were exercised at least once Re '14-'15 b ball coaches - how many head contracts were we obligated under? |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 1, 2016 17:31:41 GMT -5
Total expenses, men's basketball
2008-09 $1.55 Million
2009-10 $2.7M
2010-11 $1.7M
2011-12 $1.6M
2012-13 $1.8M
2013-14 $1.9M
2014-15 $2.6M
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 9, 2016 15:54:55 GMT -5
According to the Lafayette board, Mickey Fein may have the inside track as their next head coach. Fein is the current OC.
Would be a curious hire in my mind, hiring the guy who ran a very pedestrian offense for the last several seasons. Fein is from Barnstable, Mass (h/t to indianhoop) and a 1999 graduate of Maine.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 9, 2016 16:18:06 GMT -5
According to the Lafayette board, Mickey Fein may have the inside track as their next head coach. Fein is the current OC. Would be a curious hire in my mind, hiring the guy who ran a very pedestrian offense for the last several seasons. Fein is from Barnstable, Mass (h/t to indianhoop) and a 1999 graduate of Maine. Would be a curios choice for sure - but I think it's unlikely it wifi happen. It is a rumor that has apparently been heard by one poster. Source unknown. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 9, 2016 16:52:47 GMT -5
If the rumor is true, Fein strikes me as a small money hire. What might make the rumor credible is if Fein would be a de facto interim, and the 'real' next head coach at Lafayette awaits the recommendations of the special committee that is examining how to make Lafayette more competitive in the PL.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Dec 9, 2016 18:36:59 GMT -5
According to the Lafayette board, Mickey Fein may have the inside track as their next head coach. Fein is the current OC. Would be a curious hire in my mind, hiring the guy who ran a very pedestrian offense for the last several seasons. Fein is from Barnstable, Mass (h/t to indianhoop) and a 1999 graduate of Maine. Not to change the subject, but I have a question that IH/87 might know the answer to: maybe 15-20 years there was a hoops player named Fein who transferred from Stonehill (down in that area of SE Mass) to Georgia Tech. Wondering if this coach is a relative. |
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Post by hc87 on Dec 10, 2016 18:36:49 GMT -5
Yes, Shaun and Mickey are brothers.
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