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Post by hcpride on Nov 26, 2022 15:48:51 GMT -5
Not a great look for Fairfield. Just read. NYT reporter seems to have a novel theory in regards to Pell grant percentages and new athletic facilities. Not sure what his specific cutoffs/quotas are in either regard but certainly there are opportunities to paint many institutions in an unfavorable light (for those who buy the theory).
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 26, 2022 20:11:11 GMT -5
Reporters with an agenda will always find support for their narratives
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 26, 2022 21:17:37 GMT -5
I favor low income students receiving assistance to attend college. But I don't think attending any particular college is an entitlement. Private colleges can get caught in a death spiral: Mt. Ida, Pine Manor, Boston Conservatory of Music, Becker, Green Mountain College, Atlantic Union College, St. Joseph's of Rutland, Vermont, etc.
A college should be able to prioritize it's own fiscal health and sustainability as it sees fit. And bright students who qualify for Pell Grants should follow the incentives to the colleges that value them.
If colleges have a big enough endowment they should meet the financial need of every admitted student.
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 27, 2022 2:37:15 GMT -5
I favor low income students receiving assistance to attend college. But I don't think attending any particular college is an entitlement. Private colleges can get caught in a death spiral: Mt. Ida, Pine Manor, Boston Conservatory of Music, Becker, Green Mountain College, Atlantic Union College, St. Joseph's of Rutland, Vermont, etc. A college should be able to prioritize it's own fiscal health and sustainability as it sees fit. And bright students who qualify for Pell Grants should follow the incentives to the colleges that value them. If colleges have a big enough endowment they should meet the financial need of every admitted student. Fairfield entire enrollment is about 4,400. Let's say 1600 freshmen are there this fall, that would be 112 students with Pell grants. How many of those are athletes would be my next question?
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 27, 2022 11:12:06 GMT -5
1600 freshmen leaves 2800 sophomores, juniors and seniors. They need to hire a retention manager. I'm not following whether more or less Pell grant recipients who play a sport would be good or bad.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 27, 2022 11:21:37 GMT -5
OK, from the most recent Fairfield Magazine (fall, 2022), article entitled "Incoming Class of 2026 Yields Record-Breaking Enrollment," they had 1,340 first year students. Nothing bad about retention any more than Holy Cross' record breaking 904 first year students impacting retention.
They had an also-record breaking 13,358 applicants with an average high school GPA of 3.74 from 24 states plus D.C. and P.R. and 10 countries.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 27, 2022 13:14:34 GMT -5
OK, from the most recent Fairfield Magazine (fall, 2022), article entitled " Incoming Class of 2026 Yields Record-Breaking Enrollment," they had 1,340 first year students. Nothing bad about retention any more than Holy Cross' record breaking 904 first year students impacting retention. They had an also-record breaking 13,358 applicants with an average high school GPA of 3.74 from 24 states plus D.C. and P.R. and 10 countries. Faith restored in Fairfield as a fine institution.
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 28, 2022 11:42:03 GMT -5
1600 freshmen leaves 2800 sophomores, juniors and seniors. They need to hire a retention manager. I'm not following whether more or less Pell grant recipients who play a sport would be good or bad. Are the ones actually getting Pell Grants at Fairfield athletes? Are they not reaching out that much to the general student population?
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Post by alum on Nov 28, 2022 16:01:02 GMT -5
I favor low income students receiving assistance to attend college. But I don't think attending any particular college is an entitlement. Private colleges can get caught in a death spiral: Mt. Ida, Pine Manor, Boston Conservatory of Music, Becker, Green Mountain College, Atlantic Union College, St. Joseph's of Rutland, Vermont, etc. A college should be able to prioritize it's own fiscal health and sustainability as it sees fit. And bright students who qualify for Pell Grants should follow the incentives to the colleges that value them. If colleges have a big enough endowment they should meet the financial need of every admitted student. The death spiral referenced here is of concern. Discounting tuition can end up causing disaster, but even if it does not, it can leave insufficient funds for need based aid to offer students, even with the benefit of a Pell Grant. Without a critical mass of students who are less financially advantaged, poorer students will not enroll or transfer after they do. My wife worked at a NESCAC in fundraising. They had a retreat where some students came and spoke about what financial aid had done for them. They were appreciative of the generosity of the donors and the work of the advancement staff but some noted that they felt out of place. They pointed to clothes, and in particular the "shirts with the whales on them" and Canada Goose coats. If a student looks around and sees that no one even dresses like him or her, a state school might seem like a better place. I have no idea if the Fairfield thing is a statistical fluke or something more and certainly am not prepared to condemn them, especially given their efforts with the creation of a community college. On the other hand, they had a chance to try to push this story in any number of directions and seem to have passed on the chance.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 5, 2022 13:30:37 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 5, 2022 13:40:07 GMT -5
Having a connection to Fairfield, I loved this story.
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Post by mm67 on Dec 5, 2022 19:43:32 GMT -5
Agree totally about the beauty of having an on camps basketball facility. My hope is HC continues to play its home games at its true home, on campus.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 5, 2022 22:03:46 GMT -5
Agree totally about the beauty of having an on camps basketball facility. My hope is HC continues to play its home games at its true home, on campus. Boston Garden called looking to get us back. But the phone number they had from the 1940s was when Worcester was still in the 617 area code so they never made a connection. Seriously, the Hart is perfectly sized and located for HC basketball and hockey right now and HC's other on campus facilities are also. If you want entertainment in a brand new on-campus venue, the Prior Center is for you.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 5, 2022 22:30:37 GMT -5
I've been in it and don't think you can fit a basketball court in the Hive. But maybe I'm miscalculating.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 6, 2022 10:11:34 GMT -5
I just wish they made the Hart into something a little better, not necessarily larger; in fact, probably smaller. Maybe they will someday, but other than on a temporary basis, have no interest in the arena* a few exits down on 290.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 6, 2022 12:48:30 GMT -5
I just wish they made the Hart into something a little better, not necessarily larger; in fact, probably smaller. Maybe they will someday, but other than on a temporary basis, have no interest in the arena* a few exits down on 290. You mean the Big East/Hockey East sized Barn? That's where you put the once in a decade UMass or BC home game IF both teams are winning and drawing well leading up to the game.
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 19, 2023 12:06:40 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 19, 2023 22:20:59 GMT -5
I am there in the next two weeks twice...
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 29, 2023 19:34:52 GMT -5
My review on the new Fairfield arena is that it is the best mid major facility in the Northeast. Good sightlines, nice concourses, modern, and all around great place to watch a game.
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 8, 2023 10:47:41 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Mar 8, 2023 12:39:21 GMT -5
OK, from the most recent Fairfield Magazine (fall, 2022), article entitled " Incoming Class of 2026 Yields Record-Breaking Enrollment," they had 1,340 first year students. Nothing bad about retention any more than Holy Cross' record breaking 904 first year students impacting retention. They had an also-record breaking 13,358 applicants with an average high school GPA of 3.74 from 24 states plus D.C. and P.R. and 10 countries. Interesting that Fairfield provides GPA and geography stats for applicants rather than enrollees. And a 3.74 GPA ain’t what it used to be with most top students closer to a 5.0 than a 4.0 based on weighting.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 8, 2023 19:01:05 GMT -5
Colleges choose whichever stats or interpretations support their narratives, of course
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