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Post by hchoops on Nov 22, 2022 18:45:34 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Nov 22, 2022 18:58:40 GMT -5
He has been the perfect gift to the rebuild and beyond effort
If he opted for two more years, Pessansky should move to hoops in addition to football. Go back and watch his HS. film for hoops, he might change the current roster in basketball imho
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Post by hcpride on Nov 22, 2022 19:36:08 GMT -5
He, like Dobbs, immediately showed he was a Patriot League mismatch (in a good way) from the very moment he showed up on campus.
Precisely the sort of talent we need to get that National Championship.
Congrats to Matt (and his coaches).
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Nov 22, 2022 22:15:37 GMT -5
For those who may not realize, this is a very huge deal for Sluka.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 22, 2022 22:38:47 GMT -5
Yeah, DeMorat's also one.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 22, 2022 23:03:48 GMT -5
/\ And his favorite receiver.
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Post by hc1998 on Nov 22, 2022 23:45:12 GMT -5
While a loyal and passionate HC supporter, I admit many of my posts here are an attempt to wipe the purple tint off of the glasses many of my fellow posters are looking through....but looking at this list, I have to think Sluka should finish no worse than third, which is an amazing accomplishment. Unfortunately, to the dismay of many here I would put DeMorat ahead of him, and likely Scott too (his numbers certainly warrant it, haven't watched enough tape or assessed quality of competition). No matter where he finishes, congratulations to Sluka on a phenomenal season, and recognizing this can't be done alone...congrats to the entire team and staff, something to be incredibly proud of.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 23, 2022 0:01:58 GMT -5
Huge accomplishment for Matt and something for the whole program to be proud of. Based on stats alone, DeMorat has more passing yards than Scott, Jr. and Sluka have passing and rushing yards combined. DeMorat has 58 total TD's to Scott's 57 and Sluka's 33. Lindsey is a dual threat QB but relies more on his arm than his legs. I wonder if being a 7th year transfer at his 5th school or SoS has anything to do with the award. All 3 have rather weak SoS's. Don't overlook Fotis and his 14 TD's. Over 1600 total yards.
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Post by hc1998 on Nov 23, 2022 7:57:38 GMT -5
Have we had a finalist aside from Lockbaum before? Maybe Randolph? Was surprised to see Lockbaum was 2nd the same year he was 2nd and 3rd in the Maxwell and Heisman voting respectively.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 23, 2022 9:59:49 GMT -5
Just to give a slight rebuttal, the award is for best offensive player which is not exactly the same as the guy with the highest total yards in either passing or running. otherwise, there would be nothing but quarterbacks. If the game is on the line and you've got to get a win or a critical first down, Matt gives a defense more concern, I would think, because while DeMorat is a much greater threat for a pass, his running ability is no where near Matt's potential. I can't speak to the Incarnate Word guy but would hope that Matt beats out DeMorat anyway. The offense, again, is more than just yardage, it's winning, and head-to-head, Matt has beaten DeMorat every. single. time.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 23, 2022 10:29:10 GMT -5
Pretty impressive list of past winners “including eventual NFL stars Cooper Kupp (Eastern Washington, 2015), Jimmy Garoppolo (Eastern Illinois, 2013), Tony Romo (Eastern Illinois, 2002), Brian Westbrook (Villanova, 2001) and Steve McNair (Alcorn State, 1994).”
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Post by hc1998 on Nov 23, 2022 12:26:41 GMT -5
Just to give a slight rebuttal, the award is for best offensive player which is not exactly the same as the guy with the highest total yards in either passing or running. otherwise, there would be nothing but quarterbacks. If the game is on the line and you've got to get a win or a critical first down, Matt gives a defense more concern, I would think, because while DeMorat is a much greater threat for a pass, his running ability is no where near Matt's potential. I can't speak to the Incarnate Word guy but would hope that Matt beats out DeMorat anyway. The offense, again, is more than just yardage, it's winning, and head-to-head, Matt has beaten DeMorat every. single. time. At the end of the day, DeMorat is moving the ball many more yards and scoring many more TD's than Sluka or virtually any other finalist...isn't the best offense the one that scores the most? You say the offense is more than just yardage, its winning...but there are two more sides of a team that an offensive player has no control over. Are you honestly saying DeMorat didn't put his team in a position to win literally every game this year? If this award was about winning it would probably be called MVP. I'm curious if some of these arguments would be made if DeMorat was in Worcester and Sluka was in the Bronx...pretty certain they wouldn't. A dual threat QB does not necessarily give a defense more concern...historically who would you prefer to face in the NFL Playoffs-Tom Brady/Joe Montana or Randall Cunningham/Mike Vick/RGIII? And please note, this is in no way a slight to Sluka...I love watching him play and he has done amazing stuff for us and has had an amazing year, I just am not sure I can justify him beating out DeMorat. Another point to consider is that at least in league play, they are putting up these numbers against the exact same opponents, with the exception that Sluka gets to face the Fordham defense, DeMorat has to face HC which is better defensively...it didn't slow him down too much.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 23, 2022 13:12:01 GMT -5
DeMorat's Passing Efficiency was an outstanding 186.02 while Sluka's was an outstanding 180.71.....hmmm not much difference
DeMorat rushed 51 times for 22 net yards while Sluka rushed 165 times for 918 net yards....quite a difference there
"A dual threat QB does not necessarily give a defense more concern...historically who would you prefer to face in the NFL Playoffs-Tom Brady/Joe Montana or Randall Cunningham/Mike Vick/RGIII?" Really? You can do better than this ridiculous comparison.
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 23, 2022 13:17:49 GMT -5
Just to give a slight rebuttal, the award is for best offensive player which is not exactly the same as the guy with the highest total yards in either passing or running. otherwise, there would be nothing but quarterbacks. If the game is on the line and you've got to get a win or a critical first down, Matt gives a defense more concern, I would think, because while DeMorat is a much greater threat for a pass, his running ability is no where near Matt's potential. I can't speak to the Incarnate Word guy but would hope that Matt beats out DeMorat anyway. The offense, again, is more than just yardage, it's winning, and head-to-head, Matt has beaten DeMorat every. single. time. I can tell you Andrei Iosivas was the best FCS player I have seen this year.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 23, 2022 13:28:50 GMT -5
Does anyone know their respective QB ratings ?
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Post by hcpride on Nov 23, 2022 13:31:18 GMT -5
Just to give a slight rebuttal, the award is for best offensive player which is not exactly the same as the guy with the highest total yards in either passing or running. otherwise, there would be nothing but quarterbacks. If the game is on the line and you've got to get a win or a critical first down, Matt gives a defense more concern, I would think, because while DeMorat is a much greater threat for a pass, his running ability is no where near Matt's potential. I can't speak to the Incarnate Word guy but would hope that Matt beats out DeMorat anyway. The offense, again, is more than just yardage, it's winning, and head-to-head, Matt has beaten DeMorat every. single. time. I can tell you Andrei Iosivas was the best FCS player I have seen this year. I saw Princeton v Cornell (at Princeton) and based on that game he is outstanding. Stood out as the best kid on the field IMHO. But DeMorat and his throwing stats are hard to beat.
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 23, 2022 13:58:34 GMT -5
I can tell you Andrei Iosivas was the best FCS player I have seen this year. I saw Princeton v Cornell (at Princeton) and based on that game he is outstanding. Stood out as the best kid on the field IMHO. But DeMorat and his throwing stats are hard to beat. No disagreement there....Iosivas has to be drafted on the second day.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 23, 2022 14:46:37 GMT -5
So '98 made me take off my purple blinders and, while it took some time, Here's a comparison of strictly PL play, so the playing field was level. However, I did count HC against Fordham and vice versa, so 6 games apiece. Sluka DeMoratpassing yds 1,130 2,385 rushing yds 521 -15 total yds 1,651 2,370 completions 64 162 pass attempts 103 255 # rushes 83 31 total TDs (pass+rush) 19 32 interceptions 2 5
All hail the Rams!
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Post by crusader12 on Nov 23, 2022 15:02:22 GMT -5
Have we had a finalist aside from Lockbaum before? Maybe Randolph? Was surprised to see Lockbaum was 2nd the same year he was 2nd and 3rd in the Maxwell and Heisman voting respectively. Yes Dom was in 2008 and 2009 I believe.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 23, 2022 15:25:28 GMT -5
Have we had a finalist aside from Lockbaum before? Maybe Randolph? Was surprised to see Lockbaum was 2nd the same year he was 2nd and 3rd in the Maxwell and Heisman voting respectively. Yes Dom was in 2008 and 2009 I believe. Gordie was not to far away from a triple crown. Is our current Media Relations staff supporting Sluka's candidacy with anywhere near the ferocity of Greg Burke's one man effort for Gordie and Holy Cross?
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Post by dharry13 on Nov 23, 2022 15:29:07 GMT -5
Holy crap. I thought you were kidding when you said it was his 7th season and his 4th school. WOW.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 23, 2022 18:03:39 GMT -5
I believe that for our Fordham game, Matt had a higher QB rating. I presume that this is the stat. www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/individual/8So Matt and DeMorat are close, but Scott has a significant lead. DeMorat’s interceptions probably significantly hurt his number
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Post by hc1998 on Nov 28, 2022 8:30:33 GMT -5
So '98 made me take off my purple blinders and, while it took some time, Here's a comparison of strictly PL play, so the playing field was level. However, I did count HC against Fordham and vice versa, so 6 games apiece. Sluka DeMoratpassing yds 1,130 2,385 rushing yds 521 -15 total yds 1,651 2,370 completions 64 162 pass attempts 103 255 # rushes 83 31 total TDs (pass+rush) 19 32 interceptions 2 5
All hail the Rams! I didn't mean to ignore the heavy lifting you put into your response...we literally had an internet outage right when I went to respond, and between the holiday and no game this week, I never came back online. Thanks for your work on this. The UNH game provides an interesting post script to these arguments...DeMorat had arguably his worst game of the year (I say that not having seen the first half, so I do not know if the INT's were on him, the receiver, or something fluky) and still wound up with 330 yards, 61% completion, and 3 td's...if thats someone's floor, I'd think most FCS schools would sign up to have someone like that under center. Now lets hope Sluka throws for 300 and 2 scores, runs for 100 and another 2 scores, and in a few weeks we are all debating if he would have won if playoffs counted towards the balloting.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 28, 2022 8:45:35 GMT -5
Agree on all counts.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 28, 2022 13:06:36 GMT -5
After watching the exhilarating Fordham-HC game in person, I never would have imagined we held DeMorat to his lowest passing yard total of the season. His 330 yards against UNH were the second lowest of the season behind the HC game (256 yards). Watching the UNH game, I would have suspected that was actually his lowest total due in part to the pressure, int's, etc. In any event, we should see two solid defenses trying to get back healthy on Saturday. Hopefully HC is 100% or close to it.
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