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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Nov 29, 2022 7:08:47 GMT -5
Must watch game Today at 2PM on Fox. US has to win or come home.
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Post by HC92 on Nov 29, 2022 7:50:55 GMT -5
Definitely a huge day for USA Soccer. Lots of pressure on the players to deliver the W. Hope we get out to a fast start and put a couple in the back of the net quickly.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 29, 2022 8:04:49 GMT -5
Political issues exacerbate the actual game.
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Post by Tom on Nov 29, 2022 8:51:13 GMT -5
I'm kind of naive, but wouldn't it be nice if these events could be about the action on the field, and world politics wouldn't have to affect the athletes.. That being said, the U.S. captain got a rather politically loaded question at a press conference and handled it very well
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Nov 29, 2022 8:52:25 GMT -5
Political issues exacerbate the actual game. The Iranian players showed solidarity with the anti government demonstrators in Iran by refusing to sing the national anthem in their first match. |
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Post by hchoops on Nov 29, 2022 9:04:49 GMT -5
And now face possible retribution when they return home- especially if they lose today
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 29, 2022 9:11:36 GMT -5
International "football" seems to reflect current political issues to a greater extent than any other sport. What other sports have had to install moats, barbed wire fences and armed guards to protect players and especially officials from crowds of "fans?"
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Post by Tom on Nov 29, 2022 10:19:09 GMT -5
International "football" seems to reflect current political issues to a greater extent than any other sport. What other sports have had to install moats, barbed wire fences and armed guards to protect players and especially officials from crowds of "fans?" Moats? I suppose I should be sad that players need these protections, but it's also kind of cool that someone is actually using a moat in the 21st century. I've been thinking of installing one as part of a home security system. Of course, my moat would be inhabited by sharks with laser beams. HCFC45 says those protections should not extend to officials |
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Post by WCHC Sports on Nov 29, 2022 10:32:50 GMT -5
I read what was it, Bill Simmons, writing about going to a game in Mexico? There's the added advantage of having fans of the visiting club behind fences, plexiglass barriers, and surrounded by police for protection. There's also the downside of what amounts to a huge arrow pointing, "Here are the opposing fans all in one spot!" I vividly recall, whomever wrote it, that plastic bags full of [revolting fluids] were favored projectiles to be launched into the opposing fan's pen.
USA has to win today. It would seem to be symbolic off the field as well.
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 29, 2022 11:22:00 GMT -5
Political issues exacerbate the actual game. Well the USA Soccer twitter account removing a piece of the Iranian flag in a post doesn't help. |
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Post by hchoops on Nov 29, 2022 11:42:45 GMT -5
Political issues exacerbate the actual game. Well the USA Soccer twitter account removing a piece of the Iranian flag in a post doesn't help. Restored |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 29, 2022 11:47:20 GMT -5
Political issues exacerbate the actual game. Well the USA Soccer twitter account removing a piece of the Iranian flag in a post doesn't help. That'll show 'em. |
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Post by WCHC Sports on Nov 29, 2022 12:35:44 GMT -5
I promise I at least intend to stop all even-close-to-being-political posts after this one... but the USA owes Iran NOTHING. It is "better" of us to not do something like this, but if they put a turd emoji on their flag out of complete sophomoric and insulting behavior, I wouldn't be up in arms about it.
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 29, 2022 12:38:52 GMT -5
I promise I at least intend to stop all even-close-to-being-political posts after this one... but the USA owes Iran NOTHING. It is "better" of us to not do something like this, but if they put a turd emoji on their flag out of complete sophomoric and insulting behavior, I wouldn't be up in arms about it. Would you be up in arms if Iran deleted all the stars on the USA flag and tweeted it out? I think you would |
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Post by hc1998 on Nov 29, 2022 12:55:02 GMT -5
I promise I at least intend to stop all even-close-to-being-political posts after this one... but the USA owes Iran NOTHING. It is "better" of us to not do something like this, but if they put a turd emoji on their flag out of complete sophomoric and insulting behavior, I wouldn't be up in arms about it. Would you be up in arms if Iran deleted all the stars on the USA flag and tweeted it out? I think you would Iran actually had a credible argument to have the US team suspended over this...I say that looking at the letter of the law (rule) they cited, and not past application (if any) of it. Just to be clear, but I hope I don't need to be, not defending Iran and/or advocating for the suspension, but was an interesting subplot. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 29, 2022 13:07:44 GMT -5
Would you be up in arms if Iran deleted all the stars on the USA flag and tweeted it out? I think you would Iran actually had a credible argument to have the US team suspended over this...I say that looking at the letter of the law (rule) they cited, and not past application (if any) of it. Just to be clear, but I hope I don't need to be, not defending Iran and/or advocating for the suspension, but was an interesting subplot. I agree.... |
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Post by newfieguy74 on Nov 29, 2022 13:17:55 GMT -5
Altering the Iranian flag was a pointless stunt. On the other hand, the Iranian regime is despicable and perhaps, in a rare moment of self-assessment, they could decide to stop killing and torturing their own citizens before they work themselves into a lather about their flag.
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Post by Tom on Nov 29, 2022 14:32:29 GMT -5
I promise I at least intend to stop all even-close-to-being-political posts after this one... but the USA owes Iran NOTHING. It is "better" of us to not do something like this, but if they put a turd emoji on their flag out of complete sophomoric and insulting behavior, I wouldn't be up in arms about it. Would you be up in arms if Iran deleted all the stars on the USA flag and tweeted it out? I think you would Actually, no. If Iran, or anyone else put out a stupid tweet like that I would not be up in arms at all. I would likely lose respect for whatever group tweeted that, but in general, I'm way too much of a sticks and stones type of person to get up in arms about anything someone puts on Twitter |
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 29, 2022 15:06:01 GMT -5
What's twitter?  |
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Post by hcpride on Nov 29, 2022 15:13:18 GMT -5
Considering that Iran’s lately been arresting, torturing, and killing Iranian women at a remarkable pace (even by Iranian standards) the international reaction’s been pretty muted .
On the pitch, US up 1-0 at the half.
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Post by bison137 on Nov 29, 2022 15:23:23 GMT -5
Comment from an Iranian human rights activist:
“ “The U.S. took a huge stand here by removing the emblem from the fraudulent Islamic Republic’s flag that has become for Iranians a symbol of torture, suffering, and oppression. This is NOT our flag. Thank you thank you thank you.”
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Post by WCHC Sports on Nov 29, 2022 15:30:08 GMT -5
Would you be up in arms if Iran deleted all the stars on the USA flag and tweeted it out? I think you would More than them supplying drones to kill civilians, morality police murdering kidnapped women, trying to have a hidden nuclear weapons program, antagonizing us and our allies in the region, or anything else? My opinion would be no lower than it already is. It would be akin to me fretting about the individual actions of a super villain. They're bad yesterday, they're bad today, and when they do something stupid tomorrow, they'll still be bad. Don't make assumptions about how I'd be tit-for-tat, because that's not my style. |
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Post by HC92 on Nov 29, 2022 15:42:22 GMT -5
Hope none of these soccer players ever have to give birth.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 29, 2022 15:49:23 GMT -5
What's twitter? Wasn't he a Country & Western singer - Conway Twitter? |
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Nov 29, 2022 16:15:16 GMT -5
"It's only make believe" that you could come up with a comment like that.
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