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Post by nhteamer on Dec 11, 2022 17:16:13 GMT -5
Chesney is a young guy who wants it all.
Holy Cross is not the job that fulfills his dreams
Thank you Bob all the best
HE’LL BE THE NEXT NAVY COACH
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Post by gks on Dec 11, 2022 17:21:37 GMT -5
Navy would be insane not to give Bob a long, hard look.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 11, 2022 17:25:57 GMT -5
Not a great move for Chesney football wise as we are better, at the moment, then the three military academy jobs. However I am sure he would be well received by USNA
We have one coach we want to keep forever and another who couldn't get another HC job
Life is full of challenges😱
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Post by nhteamer on Dec 11, 2022 17:59:05 GMT -5
Not a great move for Chesney football wise as we are better, at the moment, then the three military academy jobs.WRONG
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Post by efg72 on Dec 11, 2022 18:02:04 GMT -5
Nhteamer welcome to your opinion
I have mine
You just want him to leave so you have an outside chance to be competitive wish you luck
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Post by CHC8485 on Dec 11, 2022 18:15:13 GMT -5
nhteamer is a Holy Cross alum. Based on his history, I suspect he shares and supports your point of view on HC Athletics and moves they should make yesterday.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 11, 2022 18:19:52 GMT -5
Coaching at the academies is a rather nuanced operation and football head coach particularly so. I’m not aware of any Chesney connections to the military (service, assistant coaching, or otherwise) so I don’t see him heading to Navy as head coach at this point in his career.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 11, 2022 18:20:00 GMT -5
Chesney is a young guy who wants it all. Holy Cross is not the job that fulfills his dreams Thank you Bob all the best HE’LL BE THE NEXT NAVY COACH Navy is the opposite place to go if you’re a guy who wants it all. Dead end job that would put a cap on his career. Much better off winning big at HC the next 1-2 years and skipping the Navy step (potentially for BC)
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Post by newfieguy74 on Dec 11, 2022 18:21:46 GMT -5
Chesney is a young guy who wants it all. Holy Cross is not the job that fulfills his dreams Thank you Bob all the best HE’LL BE THE NEXT NAVY COACH Good Lord, another inane thread.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 11, 2022 19:04:02 GMT -5
Chesney is a young guy who wants it all. Holy Cross is not the job that fulfills his dreams Thank you Bob all the best HE’LL BE THE NEXT NAVY COACH Navy is the opposite place to go if you’re a guy who wants it all. Dead end job that would put a cap on his career. Much better off winning big at HC the next 1-2 years and skipping the Navy step (potentially for BC) You may not be wrong. However, the last 2 great Navy coaches prior to Niamatalolo moved on to Virginia (Bob Welsh) and Georgia Tech (Paul Johnson). I think a main reason service academy jobs CAN have a ceiling is because of tbe unique offenses they run. But Chesney is a defensive guy ao maybe that wouldn't hold hin back. He'd obviosuly need an OC under him with a winning track record running the option. Holding out for a possible BC opening in 1-2 years COULD be the better option.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 11, 2022 19:10:14 GMT -5
Coaching at the academies is a rather nuanced operation and football head coach particularly so. I’m not aware of any Chesney connections to the military (service, assistant coaching, or otherwise) so I don’t see him heading to Navy as head coach at this point in his career. It is a great life job if you beat the other academies It is NOT a great football job I see Chesney leaving HC for a pocketful oh gold💰💰💰, we would be inclined to take for our families, or a chance to go for the FBS title He has plenty of time to wait for the right opportunity for him and his family
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Post by football44 on Dec 11, 2022 19:14:36 GMT -5
Strap in everyone and get ready for the 2023 football season. Stop worrying about where Coach Chesney is going. We have more trophies to win and a National championship game.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 11, 2022 19:16:26 GMT -5
Amen
Someday perhaps, but unlikely anytime soon.
We create our own headaches without a reason
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 11, 2022 19:25:42 GMT -5
Chesney is a young guy who wants it all. Holy Cross is not the job that fulfills his dreams Thank you Bob all the best HE’LL BE THE NEXT NAVY COACH How did you get into his dreams?
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Post by efg72 on Dec 11, 2022 19:31:03 GMT -5
“To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary.
To one without faith, no explanation is possible.”
St. Thomas Aquinas
We are Holy Cross!✝️✝️✝️🙏🙏🍀🍀🍀🙂
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Post by hc1998 on Dec 11, 2022 20:14:35 GMT -5
Not a great move for Chesney football wise as we are better, at the moment, then the three military academy jobs. However I am sure he would be well received by USNA We have one coach we want to keep forever and another who couldn't get another HC job Life is full of challenges😱 So you are saying if HC and Navy (and Army and AF too for that matter) had openings and both offered the same coach, and made an offer in line with their typical salary structure, etc. that most candidates would choose HC? Thats ludicrous. Not only are their salaries MUCH higher, but at least in the case of Navy they have been a top 25 team several times in the last few years...so while I recognize coaching an academy is unique and you are hamstrung a bit when you put your roster together, most coaches would prefer to coach a service academy than Holy Cross
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 11, 2022 20:23:16 GMT -5
Delaware beat Navy this year. Prior to the Army game, the Navy QB had thrown three passes all year.
My take is that the service academies are finding it increasing difficult to recruit quality players who can compete at even mid-level FBS, and thus USNA and USMA are resorting to one-dimensional offenses that they master and that opponents have difficulty preparing for.
One positive though, no NIL prima donnas at the service academies.
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Post by joutsHC77 on Dec 11, 2022 20:28:56 GMT -5
Strap in everyone and get ready for the 2023 football season. Stop worrying about where Coach Chesney is going. We have more trophies to win and a National championship game. The only post on this thread that makes sense.
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Post by jkh67 on Dec 11, 2022 20:29:25 GMT -5
Chesney is a young guy who wants it all. Holy Cross is not the job that fulfills his dreams Thank you Bob all the best HE’LL BE THE NEXT NAVY COACH Good Lord, another inane thread. What's so inane!?! Much as we all hate to consider the "800 pound gorilla" lurking in the closet, Chesney's future is question no. 1. Ignoring it won't make it go away. Like everybody, I hope he'll be at HC for a while. But ardent a fan as I am of Crusader football, I wouldn't blame him for moving on at this point with many thanks for what he's done to this point and best wishes for his future at a bigger program. Does anyone really disagree with that? PS -- I agree that Navy is not where he wants to be. Watch out for BC, though!
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 11, 2022 20:42:41 GMT -5
Yeah- why would Ches ever want the Navy job. It's only one of the prestigious jobs in the country, very good quality of life in Annapolis, and huge pay bump.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 11, 2022 20:46:39 GMT -5
Not a great move for Chesney football wise as we are better, at the moment, then the three military academy jobs. However I am sure he would be well received by USNA We have one coach we want to keep forever and another who couldn't get another HC job Life is full of challenges😱 So you are saying if HC and Navy (and Army and AF too for that matter) had openings and both offered the same coach, and made an offer in line with their typical salary structure, etc. that most candidates would choose HC? Thats ludicrous. Not only are their salaries MUCH higher, but at least in the case of Navy they have been a top 25 team several times in the last few years...so while I recognize coaching an academy is unique and you are hamstrung a bit when you put your roster together, most coaches would prefer to coach a service academy than Holy Cross Not what I said We are talking about Coach Chesney and he is here - not other candidatex Dang I must not be articulating clearly, assuming we all are addressing the same topic, or people read or hear what they want. Likely it is me but....you all try to create problems that don't exist at the moment Talk to the coach, listen to him, and then tell me what he is saying that is different than what he tells his players, recruits, and staff
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Post by hc87 on Dec 11, 2022 21:06:30 GMT -5
Yeah- why would Ches ever want the Navy job. It's only one of the prestigious jobs in the country, very good quality of life in Annapolis, and huge pay bump. When Joe Bellino and Roger Staubach played at Navy. Not dissing Navy, but from an FBS competitive perspective, it's much closer to Buffalo than it is to say a Penn St. He may very well take the Navy job but I think that job poses a lot of hindrances to football competitiveness at that level that may not appeal to Coach Ray-Bans. We shall see.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 11, 2022 21:27:10 GMT -5
Yeah- why would Ches ever want the Navy job. It's only one of the prestigious jobs in the country, very good quality of life in Annapolis, and huge pay bump. When Joe Bellino and Roger Staubach played at Navy. Not dissing Navy, but from an FBS competitive perspective, it's much closer to Buffalo than it is to say a Penn St. He may very well take the Navy job but I think that job poses a lot of hindrances to football competitiveness at that level that may not appeal to Coach Ray-Bans. We shall see. And HC in the pL doesn't pose a lot of hindrances at the 1AA level?
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Post by hc87 on Dec 11, 2022 21:41:34 GMT -5
When Joe Bellino and Roger Staubach played at Navy. Not dissing Navy, but from an FBS competitive perspective, it's much closer to Buffalo than it is to say a Penn St. He may very well take the Navy job but I think that job poses a lot of hindrances to football competitiveness at that level that may not appeal to Coach Ray-Bans. We shall see. And HC in the pL doesn't pose a lot of hindrances at the 1AA level? Agreed but it's not as insurmountable (as we saw this year) as it is in Annapolis. The service academies were always a tough place to coach football at say from the post-Vietnam War-era onward...but in this era of NIL, transfer portal, social media etc etc etc....it has to be increasingly difficult to recruit, establish a program etc to keep them at a level to compete with the FBS blue-bloods. I defer to the recruiting gurus here, but I'm pretty sure Ches has beaten the service academies in some recruiting battles the last few years.
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Post by mm67 on Dec 11, 2022 21:52:01 GMT -5
Given the opportunity to play in the NFL the military academies have been at a distinct disadvantage in recruiting. It takes a special type of student-athlete to accept an offer to play for the military academies. God & Country.
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