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Post by purplehaze on Dec 20, 2022 12:18:13 GMT -5
I'm not seeing anything positive out of this embarrassment - inexcusable to perform that way coach might have to tighten up her core group and decide who the top 8 players are as we head into league play - I get the feeling the coaching staff is not ready to determine the best combos on the floor Burn the tape and move on
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Post by billyball on Dec 20, 2022 12:23:47 GMT -5
Embarrassing performance. Vermont is a good but not great team.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 20, 2022 12:49:48 GMT -5
The good news: All twelve players on the roster got in which means heading into league play all twelve are medically cleared to play and contribute, even if it's mostly in practice for some.
Compare that to the M.A.S.H. unit on the men's side.
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Post by HC13 on Dec 20, 2022 12:52:24 GMT -5
I'm not seeing anything positive out of this embarrassment - inexcusable to perform that way coach might have to tighten up her core group and decide who the top 8 players are as we head into league play - I get the feeling the coaching staff is not ready to determine the best combos on the floor Burn the tape and move on Agree, but I do think they have settled on their top 7, regular starts plus McCormack & Donnelly first off the bench. Depending on the situation, either Wright or Foreman seem next up. It seems the PL is going to be pretty much a 4 team race - Bucknell, BU & Lehigh. They remaining 6 have really struggled although Colgate has had moments.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 20, 2022 12:57:41 GMT -5
Actually considered driving up today. Very glad I did not.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Dec 20, 2022 13:31:27 GMT -5
Allen had six buckets; McCormack 2 (on 13 shots), on one else had more than one.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 20, 2022 13:46:15 GMT -5
Allen had six buckets; McCormack 2 (on 13 shots), on one else had more than one. I only had a chance to watch snippets of the game but the Allen/Berger combo is intriguing. BC couldn't stop Berger (17 of HC's 42 points) while UVM did but that left Allen with many shot opportunities. There is a great opportunity for the coaches to perfect their usage together in the starting lineup to give PL teams fits.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 20, 2022 13:51:34 GMT -5
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Post by HC13 on Dec 20, 2022 14:24:16 GMT -5
At least you got paid for it!
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Post by HC13 on Dec 20, 2022 14:25:10 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 20, 2022 14:52:50 GMT -5
At least you got paid for it! Fact!
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Post by timholycross on Dec 20, 2022 15:01:53 GMT -5
heads-up play by Cross to draw the offensive foul with 11 seconds left - then McCormack drives the lane for an uncontested layup which she misses at the horn It's very common with all of women's basketball that layups are missed frequently and we are no different Coach M using a lot of players looking for the right combination on offense - very difficult today to create their own shot against UVM defense which can't be this good. Doesn't help that BPC's offensive game has completely disappeared. Team is counting on her to score 10 a game, I would think. Today was the basketball version of a golden sombrero.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 20, 2022 15:43:11 GMT -5
LS, ‘opportunity to perfect their usage together’ ? A little late for that - the ooc portion of the schedule was the time to do that - I’m afraid the Berger/Allen combo is not functioning well
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 20, 2022 16:29:26 GMT -5
LS, ‘opportunity to perfect their usage together’ ? A little late for that - the ooc portion of the schedule was the time to do that - I’m afraid the Berger/Allen combo is not functioning well They have only had eleven games together as starters, eight of which were victories. Give the coaching staff the chance to gather data and make adjustments, and the players the chance to learn from experience. Both players are averaging 11.0 points per game. Something is working and it can be refined and improved going forward with good coaching, which I think we have.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Dec 20, 2022 17:05:59 GMT -5
I am an eternal optimist and LS makes me look like a pessimist! I may be wrong but there may not be a team in the PL as strong as VT was today.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 20, 2022 17:10:58 GMT -5
I am an eternal optimist and LS makes me look like a pessimist! I may be wrong but there may not be a team in the PL as strong as VT was today. I may be wrong, but I will be surprised if there aren't at least two PL teams ranked ahead of Vermont when the season ends. Likely more than two.
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Post by HC13 on Dec 20, 2022 17:37:50 GMT -5
I am an eternal optimist and LS makes me look like a pessimist! I may be wrong but there may not be a team in the PL as strong as VT was today. I may be wrong, but I will be surprised if there aren't at least two PL teams ranked ahead of Vermont when the season ends. Likely more than two. But isn't that going to be in large part a function of the AE being even a lower ranked league than the PL? (as hard as that may be to believe)
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 20, 2022 17:38:46 GMT -5
I believe we have not defeated a team with a winning record this season. Let’s admit our 7-3 (D.1) record might be deceiving
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 20, 2022 18:06:57 GMT -5
Even our 8-3 record might be deceiving...or it could mean HC beat 8 of the 11 teams they played. What else does it mean to you?
PS: Does the PL currently have any teams (other than HC) with winning records?
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Post by bison137 on Dec 20, 2022 18:12:05 GMT -5
I may be wrong, but I will be surprised if there aren't at least two PL teams ranked ahead of Vermont when the season ends. Likely more than two. But isn't that going to be in large part a function of the AE being even a lower ranked league than the PL? (as hard as that may be to believe) I don't think so. It will be more a function of how well Vermont plays against the AE teams and how well the PL top four play against the rest of their league. If Vermont consistenly beats the weak sisters of the AE by big margins, they could easily end up ahead of the better PL teams.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 20, 2022 18:34:18 GMT -5
Rob, it’s called scheduling weak teams - let me know when HC has the guts to toughen up the ooc with teams within a short bus ride, i.e. Harvard, Yale, Quinnipiac, Providence, UMass, Fairfield, URI - these are not powerhouses but clearly better challenges
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Post by thecrossisback on Dec 20, 2022 20:22:11 GMT -5
Rob, it’s called scheduling weak teams - let me know when HC has the guts to toughen up the ooc with teams within a short bus ride, i.e. Harvard, Yale, Quinnipiac, Providence, UMass, Fairfield, URI - these are not powerhouses but clearly better challenges BC and Marquette aren't good enough for you. Stop we are playing similar teams. This isn't Georgetown vs St Leo! We had a bad shooting game after a week off. It showed. It's 1 game move on and dominate the league. The women's teams has been 1 million times more fun to watch than the men's team!
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Post by hchoops on Dec 20, 2022 20:44:45 GMT -5
Rob, it’s called scheduling weak teams - let me know when HC has the guts to toughen up the ooc with teams within a short bus ride, i.e. Harvard, Yale, Quinnipiac, Providence, UMass, Fairfield, URI - these are not powerhouses but clearly better challenges BC and Marquette aren't good enough for you. We lost to both BC and Marquette I believe haze was referring to the many weak teams we have beaten.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 20, 2022 23:07:57 GMT -5
HC played six of the nine MA D-1 teams and will play BU two or three times this season. Given the timelines of BB scheduling, this may reflect Covid priorities of short trips and reduced overnight travel.
We missed the remaining two MA D-1 teams UMass and Harvard this year who happen to be 8-3 and 6-5 but play them periodically.
All OOC games except for Marquette have been against New England teams. I like this budget, environment and pandemic sensitive schedule myself.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 20, 2022 23:49:30 GMT -5
Even our 8-3 record might be deceiving...or it could mean HC beat 8 of the 11 teams they played. What else does it mean to you? PS: Does the PL currently have any teams (other than HC) with winning records? I saw the end of the St. Joe's (LI) and Conn College WBB game a few weeks ago. What was HC doing playing CC?
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